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Re: Pregnant And Breastfeeding Support Thread
« Reply #180 on: November 22, 2007, 10:14:54 am »
Asking for water could well be related to a change in your milk. Sodium levels can rise - especially as volume goes down but not just then.
Engorgement is usually less the second time round (as milk-producing cells are just getting a tune-up so aren't surrounded by quite so much blood and lymph) BUT there are some exceptions so no guarantees I'm afraid. :)
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Re: Pregnant And Breastfeeding Support Thread
« Reply #181 on: January 31, 2008, 20:11:03 pm »
This group's been a little quiet for a while, but I thought I'd pop in and drop a line or two (or however many my girl will let me, as she's now awake...and finding granola bars in the cupboard!) :D

Got a couple positive pregn tests a couple weeks ago, and my dd is turning two on Sunday.  She nurses at naptime and bedtime, as well as the occasional time that I give in to her pleadings for "na-na", which times are becoming more and more frequent the past couple weeks!  I'm considering whether or not to wean her when my supply drops, which definitely hasn't happened yet.  Um, or maybe not so "definitely".  Dd still nurses as long as she typically does, but I guess I'll have to pay more attention to how long she's actually sucking and swallowing for.  I think supply is still normal, though.  I do want to find that tandem nursing book, though.  My mom has been telling me to wean her for months now  ::), but as usual, I want to make my own informed decision.  I think really I just need to chose which would be worse:  engorgement with a poorly nursing infant and no nursing toddler to help me out, or lectures from my mom.  ;D  I know she means the best. :-*

Oh, Samuel's Mom, I keep meaning to tell you congrats on your new little one!  CONGRATs!!!!! :)
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Re: Pregnant And Breastfeeding Support Thread
« Reply #182 on: January 31, 2008, 20:17:45 pm »
Congratulations Hannah. Great news!
If you are considering tandem nursing I would suggest you definitely read that book but also maybe pay a visit to the breastfeeding forums on mothering.com. This is not a BW-friendly forum on the whole but tandem nursing is the norm there so you can lurk and read lots of people's experiences and get a flavour for what life might be like. One thing that is not uncommon is the older nursling wanting to nurse much more and asking more frequently including overnight. It gives you an opportunity to peek into a possible future.
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Re: Pregnant And Breastfeeding Support Thread
« Reply #183 on: January 31, 2008, 20:25:01 pm »
emma are you tandom nursing now?
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Re: Pregnant And Breastfeeding Support Thread
« Reply #184 on: January 31, 2008, 20:32:00 pm »
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Re: Pregnant And Breastfeeding Support Thread
« Reply #185 on: February 01, 2008, 14:05:08 pm »
<sigh!> Such an inspiration!  :)
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Re: Pregnant And Breastfeeding Support Thread
« Reply #186 on: February 01, 2008, 14:26:25 pm »
Thanks! I'm glad you think so. It's something I never hear IRL. People either don't know or are open-mouthed.
I think most people go into either the 'good for you - self weaning is special' camp or the 'you freak! Get away from me' camp. Not much in the middle!!
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Re: Pregnant And Breastfeeding Support Thread
« Reply #187 on: February 01, 2008, 16:19:13 pm »
I'm in the middle I think.  I'm more of a whatever works for you.  I could never do it, but if it works for you then great!
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Re: Pregnant And Breastfeeding Support Thread
« Reply #188 on: February 05, 2008, 20:20:36 pm »
Hiya! Great thread. Congrats on the pregnancies and hope you're all feeling well. Good for you Samuel's mum. Great job  :)

So I don't know whether this is the best place for my question, but I thought I'd ask anyway, and maybe you can redirect me if necessary: I was wondering, does breastfeeding negatively affect TTC? Not that I am yet, (TTC), but I'm BFing my LO who's coming up for 7 months, (just 2 feeds a day, mixed feeding and I have no idea how long I'll last) and I was wondering if there's any info on how it affects fertility or pregnancy once you've got there.

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Re: Pregnant And Breastfeeding Support Thread
« Reply #189 on: February 06, 2008, 22:25:15 pm »
Hi weeza.  In my experience, breastfeeding didn't adversely affect conception.  Ella was 9 months old and having 4 breastfeeds a day when I conceived her twin brothers!!

Emma - that's awesome.  I wish I'd been able to do that but eating for four (me, Ella and twins) just seemed too daunting for me!  I did however, always let Ella finish off the bottles of expressed milk... and have any other 'excess' and she used to ask for 'boob milk' and had a tantrum once when it was cow's milk instead of boob milk!  Had she ever tried to latch on, I would have let her but sadly she didn't!

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Re: Pregnant And Breastfeeding Support Thread
« Reply #190 on: February 07, 2008, 01:56:25 am »
Hi Louisa, like Vicky, for me bfing had no effect on TTC - I was still on 2 feeds a day, I think when i got pregnant. What happened with me, though (and with some other women) is that the milk dried up by around the second month and my nipples just became too sore to deal with the teeth etc at that age.  I've known some women who get pregnant when still nursing 5 or 6 times a day though.  Apparently, frequent nursing overnight as well can make it harder to conceive, but there are pretty strict guidelines for people who want to use breastfeeding for contraception, for instance.
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Re: Pregnant And Breastfeeding Support Thread
« Reply #191 on: February 07, 2008, 06:32:10 am »
Weeza- the older your bfing baby, the more likely you are returning to full fertility - periods and ovulation and a decent luteal phase (for successful implantation). I was also bfing a couple of times a day and conceived in the first month of trying.
Are you charting? Check out the TTC and breastfeeding thread on the pregnancy board.

Ultimately bfing does make a difference to fertility - which is why when a baby is under 6 months and bfing exclusively and regularly it's a form of contraception. However if your periods have returned and you are only feeding twice a day I'd say your chances are pretty good.
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Re: Pregnant And Breastfeeding Support Thread
« Reply #192 on: March 08, 2008, 05:21:44 am »
Weeza, I wonder if it may depend on how easily you get pregn in the first place. ?  Prolactin, if I remember correctly, is the hormone that encourages milk production and it also *can* suppress ovulation.  I had a friend who was still lactating even though her girl hadn't nursed for years (simply bizarre!) and it was keeping her and her hubby from conceiving.  It seems a sudden drop in nursing can kick-start ovulation as well, from what I've heard in other threads. Ex:  no longer nursing at night. 

For us, I didn't get pregn until we dropped nursings down to 2x a day, and actually we also dropped them down to once a day the week I was supposed to ovulate (and did actually conceive) in hopes that it would do the trick.  (not that I ever asked anyone with medical training about that, just my own hopes!)

If you just keep track of your own cycles, etc, maybe even do some ovulation tests, you'll know if your nursing is affecting your fertility.  My tests the first time round while nursing 2x/day showed me as having an LH surge, but it wasn't enough to actually ovulate.  The 2nd time around was when we stopped nursing Hannah when my body was preparing to ovulate and the LH line went darker than it was before, yet it was barely lighter than the test line, when it technically "should" be as dark or darker if you're really going to ovulate.  Well, obviously I ovulated anyway. ;)  The tests recommend that you not use them for avoiding pregn, but for me, it was about six days from teh time that any LH was detected and when I actually ovulated. (I got a pk of 20 test strips since I have very long cycles.)

Okay, sad news: 
I miscarried February 15th.  :(  Let's just say I'm glad my sweet mother-in-law sent our valentine's day package a week early because it contained a baby blanket and "I love Grandma" burp cloth.  Would not have been the best to open that package when we were waiting to see if I'd m/c or not and then miscarry the next day! 

Really, I'm okay now.  Honestly! :)  We had a few very trying weeks, but with the support of our faith and our friends/family and most especially each other, we now feel so much better about everything that happened.  We really do feel at peace. 

I weaned Hannah the week I was threatening to miscarry.  I think there was divine intervention there!  A girl friend recommended using a nutritious drink as a nursing replacement, like pediasure, which lead me to the idea of mixing fruit yogurt and milk 50/50 when I kept forgetting to pick up some pediasure from the store.  (cheaper too!!!)  Hannah loved it!!!  I only had two 30 min cry/pleading sessions and two 10 min. ones out of all the times she asked to nurse during the following days. nearly broke my heart, I'm so glad that was all!

This may sound crazy to some, but when I was laboring, I nursed her because I knew it would help with the pain.  After her having not nursed for three days, I was shocked to discover I still had plenty of milk.  I continued nursing her after the miscarriage to help my uterus go back to normal, etc, although I do have to admit that I didn't tell the doctor that!  He had said that after we learned whether or not I would miscarry we could discuss nursing.  This was a dr I hadn't met with previously at the family clinic I've just recently started going to--they were the first people available for me to meet with when I was threatening to miscarry--and I was stubborn and figured that if nursing was very beneficial after a regular labor/delivery, it must be good after a miscarriage as well, and I didn't want to be told otherwise!  ;D  I wanted my cuddle time with my precious girl, and I'm sure I could use those happy nursing hormones!!!

After the miscarriage, I started feeling like it was okay to wean Hannah.  I felt like the miscarriage was supposed to happen and that nursing was something that would help me get through it.  But, I put it off because of anxiety over trying to wean her again.  :-\  Also, I started actually reading a book during our pre-nap nursing the past couple weeks (as in, she finally--after two years--is LETTING me read a book!!!!!) and I'm totally loving that!  (Can't feel bad for reading when the house is a mess if I'm nursing!) ;)  I don't know what to do now!  I guess I need to pray and think about it some more.  I think I'm already pregn again ( ;D) but it's too soon to test.  (signs of ovulation a week ago, and I'm still having discharge, which is what happened w/ prev pregnancy)  I could probably use any extra nutrition myself, this time around....  My in-laws will be visiting us for a week at the start of Apr, and I was never really comfortable nursing in front of my father-in-law, and I don't think they even know we're still nursing....And the thought of her wakign MORE at ngiht (still 2x a night... sigh....) in order to nurse like her potential sibling scares me, I'm afraid.  Maybe if the next child is a super sleeper I can pull off tandem nursing when he/she is a toddler!!!  Hmm...I think I'm leaning toward going ahead and weaning her, much as I love my reading sessions!  I'm hoping cold season is almost over here because otherwise I'll feel quite guilty about taking away those immunities if I do wean her now! ;)  I should check out mothering.com first...wait, the address didn't work.  I found the website with a Google search, though, so maybe it's just down for maintenance.  Wow, it is late, isn't it?

When I was considering weaning earlier I had tossed around the idea of doing it during the in-laws' visit since she'd have such great distractions and so much more attention (not that she's lacking, being an only child with a mom who stays home with her!).  But, then again, would she need nursing to help her calm down for sleep after the excitement of playing w/ G&G all day?  Sigh....

....It's probably bad to tell her that when she's a big girl she won't nurse anymore, and then try to use that "big girl" line with potty training, huh!!  ;D  I think that would backfire if she's stuck on her mama milk!

Ooops.....WAY past time for me to say goodbye and goodnight!
GOODBYE & GOODNIGHT!!!
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Re: Pregnant And Breastfeeding Support Thread
« Reply #193 on: March 08, 2008, 05:41:49 am »
Wow Hannah's mom - What a rollercoaster you've been through! I'm exhausted just reading all that. So sorry about the miscarriage. I'm sorry if you mentioned that somewhere else on the boards and I missed it. I think nursing while you were labouring makes perfect sense to me. Some people do that during full term labour too.
Pregnant already. Wow. I'm impressed you can read signs of ovulation despite what has been going on. I feel like I should be telling you to leave a teeny bit of your heart prepared for that not to be the case. But I'm very happy to be proved wrong.

I would say that tandem nursing is tough (though a heck of a lot easier if the older nursling is only down to once a day). There are definitely lovely moments with the bonding/sharing stuff but you still feel very 'needed' in a way that can be quite draining. I do not know how people do it with younger nurslings who nurse during the day and several times a day. I am very glad I didn't have to face that. If you have any waverings - and child-led weaning isn't something you are committed to - I would wean. I have been on mothering.com quite a bit and there are seriously some mothers tandem feeding who are in crisis. But I guess the happy ones post less with a 'I'm so happy' thread.

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Re: Pregnant And Breastfeeding Support Thread
« Reply #194 on: March 09, 2008, 20:59:26 pm »
Hannah's mom - just read your post.  You sound really positive and quite an inspiration.  I'm just so sorry that you had a miscarriage.
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