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Offline aidenmc

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will only nurse when drowsy
« on: March 06, 2006, 01:02:14 am »
Does anyone else have a baby who will only nurse when drowsy? When my 8 mo. old was about 4 mo. he started refusing to nurse out in public. Since then he will only do it in his darkened room before a nap. Even then it often takes quite a while for him to settle down to it (especially during the day when it is less dark), and I often have to hold him firmly while he fusses a little and winds down.

When he finally settles down he takes a full feeding or finishes off what he started and sometimes continues to suckle after he's finished eating. Obviously this has interfered with him learning to fall asleep alone in his crib. Before he was onto many solids it would mean that he'd go 6-7 hours between feeds. I hesitate to allow him to skip a feed (he takes 3 during the day, then whatever he consumes at night - usually 1, sometimes 2 feedings - he dropped his wake-up feed about a month or two ago) because when I have tried that he would never make it up after his nap. There have been other issues that have affected feeding and sleeping (reflux, gas, and occasional bouts of diarrhea or constipation) which have made it very difficult to be consistent in trying to get him to fall asleep on his own. Sometimes he is so uncomfortable  that I just want to do whatever it takes to make him comfortable and to get to sleep. Other times he finishes a feed before he is asleep and occasionally I have been able to put him down almost asleep, but often he perks up and plays and by teh time he fusses again it is getting past late to get in a full nap.

Sorry for the long one, but does anyone have a similar experience? I plan to line his curtains with fabric to make the room darker during the day to see if that helps. I long for the time when I (or my husband - right now he is not very involved b/c of this) can walk into his room, put him down in his crib and leave him to it! Any ideas?
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Re: will only nurse when drowsy
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2006, 12:18:46 pm »
Hi there.  Sorry things have been tough on you. 
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I'm not sure exactly what your asking.  I think there may be a few things you are trying to tackle in this post. 

About the nursing when drowsy.....  does this have to do with your lo being distracted?  It sounds like it, but I'm not too sure.  I know that stage passed with us, but I still am not sure if I could nurse him in public.  He just wants to see what's going on. 

That's the only thoughts I have on that, as I have no experience with a lo that will only nurse when drowsy. 

Hopefully there is someone out there that can help.
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Re: will only nurse when drowsy
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2006, 12:39:07 pm »
It sounds as though you've had a lot to contend with! There are a few issues in your post. I'll try to touch on a couple. I think you're right about trying not to skip any more feeds especially as milk is still his primary form of nutrition until 12 months (as I'm sure you know).
I'm sure lots of babies around the world nurse to sleep at 8 months and it's perfectly natural - however you may not find so many of them on this site as the importance of breaking the feeding and sleeping connection is pretty central to people who use BW. Most people here start this emphasis very early on so may not have experience of re-training a baby of 8 months. However they also haven't all had to contend with reflux,gas,constipation etc. With 15,000 members I'm sure we'll find someone to help.
Your LO associates nursing with being sleepy and being sleepy with nursing. If you really want to break the link between sleep and nursing you may find additional support and information on the sleep boards - especially the props board.
Have a look at this sticky about the gentle removal plan:
https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=52857.0
You could also try the reflux board under 'general'.
At this point your baby thinks that nursing happens in a certain way in a certain environment and it may take a while to educate him otherwise. There seem to be 2 separate issues: the nursing to sleep (which hopefully the sticky will help with) and the nursing environment needing to be dark/unstimulating - babies sometimes grow out of this but I don't know how you could go about changing this other than gradual steps. Hopefully the next poster can say more!
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Re: will only nurse when drowsy
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2006, 21:28:26 pm »
Great advise above, just to add it sounds to be as though you've got one v.spirited baby!

Try get him to eat all his feeds even if it means waking him. He needs all his nutrients as he is still very young.

Have you tried posting on the props board? I haven't much experience with nursing to sleep but I'm there are plenty of others in your boat!
If you aren't doing pu/pd then you shud start, the younger he is the better. Do you have Tracey's book? It usually takes 3days to 10days to break a habit. I used pu/pd with my DS to move him from co-sleeping with me into his cot and it worked wonders (he was about 8months too so its never too late!)  It did take about 5 very hard days with my DH and my MIL helping me. Could you try and get DH on board and help? Its often said to be easier if daddy does bedtime routine as the association with nursing and sleep is completely removed. If not DH then anyone else maybe a friend or sister?

I hope you get this sorted, I bet your frazzled! Anymore questions then let us know!
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