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TBW guide: Changing from bottle to trainer cup
« on: March 12, 2006, 13:16:30 pm »
Don't know if this is the right area to post this question but here goes anyway. My 9 month old dd will not take her drinks from a cup. She loves her bottle and will take milk and water from it but when I give her a cup she spits it out. I have tried using loads of different types of cup but nothing works. Any advice?

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Re: From bottle to cup - how???
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2006, 13:27:29 pm »
Lizzie, I am currently using a Boots own non spill trainer cup 7month + , DS loves it - I only found it the other day and have since bought another one (because they are 1/3 off!!).  He will quite happily take it himself or with me holding it.

I was using a tommee tipee 1st stage trainer cup before and I began to found it terrrible, so much so that I called them and complained (not that it did much use).

What types of cup have you tried? Have you tried a straw cup?
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Re: From bottle to cup - how???
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2006, 15:48:19 pm »
You need to make sure you are persistant also. Choose a cup and stick with it. He may only play with it for awhile, but eventually he will realize what it is used for. At this age I offered the cup with meals and the bottle in between as a snack.
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Re: From bottle to cup - how???
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2006, 19:45:02 pm »
I started introducing the cup to my son when he was about 9 months old. I had one similiar to the one Calums Mum showed. I would give it to him whenever we ate solids. At first he would just bang it and chew on the spout. Eventually, he figured out how to get milk from it. It went from this to gradually replacing his bottles with the cup. By 11 months we were completely off bottles.
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Re: From bottle to cup - how???
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2006, 21:16:19 pm »
Thanks - I think I just need to persevere!! :- ::)

I have tried a few different ones - the tommee tippee trainer cup, avent magic cup and one called vital baby. My DD did the same though - she just chewed the end. I suppose I should stick to one and try not to expect too much! Why do we always want results right away!!!! ???

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Trainer Cups: I’m a Big Kid Now!
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2006, 10:35:19 am »
Lizzie
I have just been reading 'TBW Sayp' page 131-2 about Trainer cups. Tracy's says:

Trainer Cups: I’m a Big Kid Now!



Around the time you start thinking about introducing solid food, you should also think about getting your child used to a trainer cup, so that he can make the transition from sucking his liquids down through a nipple to drinking like the big kids. It too, is part of allowing your child to grow up, to go from being fed to eating on his own. As I mentioned earlier, some breastfeeding mums go straight from breast to trainer cup. Others introduce a bottle early on, or later and also give their children a trainer cup at the same time.

When a mother says to me, “I just can’t get my child to use a trainer cup”, I wonder how hard she’s trying, what mistakes she’s made in her attempts to teach her child how to use it, and whether she expects overnight results. As always, I ask my questions:

At what age did you first try to introduce it? Even if a baby is on a bottle and breast, at six months, it’s important to try out a trainer cup. You can also give her a plastic cup, but a trainer cup is better because it has a Spout that controls the flow. Your child can hold it herself, too, which promotes her independence. (Never ever give a glass to a baby or young child, not even up to four or five years old. I’ve seen too many chil¬dren rushed to the emergency room with glass in their lips and tongue.)

How often did you try to give it? You have to give your child three weeks to a month of daily practice for him to get used to a trainer cup. It will take longer if you don’t give it every day.

Did you try different types? Few babies immediately take to a trainer cup. If yours doesn’t like it at first, remember that it’s new and foreign to him. There are also so many trainer cups on the market now - some have a spout and others a straw. Breast—feeding babies often do better with a straw type of trainer cup. Regardless of the type you buy first, try one stick with for at least a month. Resist switching from one back to the other.

In what position do you hold your baby when giving him a trainer cup?
Many parents hand their baby a trainer cup while he is sitting in a high chair or booster seat and expect him to know what to do. Instead, you should sit your baby on your knee, facing outward. Guide his little hands onto the handles and help him pick the cup up to his mouth. Do it gently, and do it at a time when he’s in a good mood.

How much—and what kind of—liquid do you put into the cup? Here’s where I see a lot of parents go wrong: They put too much liquid into the trainer cup, so it’s too heavy for the baby to bold.  I recommend no more than an 25 ml (an ounce) of water, pumped milk, or formula to begin with. Avoid juice, because your baby does not need the extra sugar. You also risk that she’ll always associate  the trainer cup with sweet liquid and refuse all others.


Okay, you say I’ve already made that mistake! She’s now using the trainer cup like a champ but refuses to drink milk in it. You can’t go cold turkey on her  - she’ll get upset, perhaps start associating the trainer cup with a negative experience, and she might even get dehydrated (especially if she’s been weaned from breast and doesn’t take a bottle). Start by offering her two cups of liquid at her meal. In one, have 25 ml (an ounce) of the liquid you’ve been giving her - say juice or water - and in the other pour 5()ml (two ounces) of milk. After she has a sip of the water, take that cup away try to give her the milk. If she refuses, leave it and try an hour later. Even if she’s already proficient, try sitting her on your knee for a drink. As with most things,  if you persist, ~and try to make it a fun, loving experience, instead of seeing it as a skill you have to teach her immediately, you’re more likely to be successful.

As with weaning, when you see your baby with a trainer cup, you might have mixed feelings, because he looks older. That’s okay - most mums do. Just let go and enjoy the journey.

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Re: TBW guide: Changing from bottle to trainer cup
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2006, 21:21:27 pm »
Lizzie how are you getting on with the trainer cup, let us know what works for you.
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Re: TBW guide: Changing from bottle to trainer cup
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2006, 13:09:53 pm »
Hi, sorry to gatecrash this post, but my ds is nearly 6 months and i have been trying a trainer cup, first I tried it out myself and I have to say they must have to suck very hard to get anything out becaiuse I did!! it is one of those non-spill types of cup with a valve...am I using the right sort?

PS Hi Callums mum, great that you are a moderator, the adbice you gave me a few weeks ago was so useful! Bridget

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Re: TBW guide: Changing from bottle to trainer cup
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2006, 13:15:46 pm »
Hi again Bridget,
What make of trainer cup are you using?
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Re: TBW guide: Changing from bottle to trainer cup
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2006, 16:02:13 pm »
Hi!
Its a tommy tippee cup and i have to say it does seem REALLY hard to get any liquid out. I tried it without the non spill valve-disaster the water just poured out all over ds! OOps...Will try and get the boots own one and will just keep trying. Is it best to try water or milk? We are having constipation issues at the mo so am trying to get some wter in him- have never given him water even though he has been on formula since 3 months-bad mummy!

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Re: TBW guide: Changing from bottle to trainer cup
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2006, 16:09:39 pm »
argh!!!  >:( >:( >:( >:(  I complained to TT about their design and the fact that you can't get the bl@@dy milk out  >:( >:( >:( They very very blase and told me to return ot to Boots if I wasn't happy.

The one I recommend (theres a pic at the bottom of the thread) is Boots own trainer cup, it is BRILLIANT  ds sucks or chews away on it  ;D ;D ;D  I got the 7month + cup becasue the 4M + never had handles.


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The TT design I didn't like was the flip up clear spout protector, DS kept jabbing in his face and its not soft - it left red blotches wher it dug into him!!! The girl at TT said its only designed to go in the mouth. I said its a trainer cup, every part of that cup should be designed to go in their mouth!!!!!!!
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Re: TBW guide: Changing from bottle to trainer cup
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2006, 16:18:13 pm »
I personally put no more than 1or 2 oz of milk in otherwise its too heavy. I have never tried water in it as DS spits water out when its in his bottle I never gave water either, just tried with an 1oz or so and it came out again  ::)
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Re: TBW guide: Changing from bottle to trainer cup
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2006, 17:00:18 pm »
Thanks Lauren, I will get one at boots and will try witj an oz or two of milk amd just keep trying every day even for prsctise as Tracys suggets in the book....you would think water was poison the face he makes!!

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Re: TBW guide: Changing from bottle to trainer cup
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2006, 23:25:38 pm »
Hi Lauren Catherine has a cup for drinking her water but it doesn't have the non spill valve in it. She does have a cup with the non spill valve in it does Calum use a cup like that? Should i start trying her with one of those cups?

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Re: TBW guide: Changing from bottle to trainer cup
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2006, 04:17:14 am »
Well today at lunch time i gave her some of her bottle in the non spill cup with lunch and she drank 10mls. I know that isn't alot but its a start will keep perservering with it and i think soon she will be able to drink all of her 200mls out of it.

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Re: TBW guide: Changing from bottle to trainer cup
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2006, 12:05:27 pm »
Beam79 how are you getting on with the trainer cup?

Natasha, I think if Catherine is taking the way she is without the valve then good on her, I wouldn't change it would be like going backwards.

Sorry for delay - I spilt coffee on my keyboard yesterday  ::) and had to buy a new one this morning!
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Re: TBW guide: Changing from bottle to trainer cup
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2006, 14:23:54 pm »
have you tried taking the valve out?

our lo would not, would not, would not drink from the cup.  i figured it might be because he didn't know how to suck on anything other than a bottle nipple.  we took out the valve and let it run out - bit of a disaster at first as he couldn't control the flow, so we just tipped it back before he took too much.  when he began sucking on it, we put the valve back in and he figured out what to do. 

it took about three months before we could use it exclusively.  we knew it was going well when he started taking a bit, and then every day he drank a little bit more.  i wonder if it has something to do with them learning how to use different muscles in their mouths? 

good luck, just keep trying. 

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Re: TBW guide: Changing from bottle to trainer cup
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2006, 20:21:53 pm »
I have a question for you all....

Before introducing the cup to your LO did they used to hold onto the bottle/feed themselves?

Reason why I'm asking is that my DS is 10.5 months and she doesn't feed herself or hold onto the bottle.  Right now she has no desire for the bottle.  She doesn't want to drink her formula with her bottle and when she drinks from it she drinks 1 to 3 ounces.  So we tried the trainer cup and she doesn't care for it either.   Could her lack of enthusiasm be from teething? Right now she's getting all her top front teeth at the same time.

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Re: TBW guide: Changing from bottle to trainer cup
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2006, 21:04:41 pm »
HI

No he wasn't able to hold a bottle himself. I gave him it to play with filled with 1oz of milk in it (when he was 4.5months old) and he figured it out on his own eventually after every part of the cup went in his mouth.

Tonight I put the rest of his milk from the bottle in his sippy and I held it while he took the rest.
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Re: TBW guide: Changing from bottle to trainer cup
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2006, 01:16:05 am »
I must try that.  Well...I have but I should be more persistent. Last time I did it she took the cup put her mouth all over it and then tossed it on the floor.

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Re: TBW guide: Changing from bottle to trainer cup
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2006, 09:05:18 am »
I read an article that said;

the AVENT magic trainer cup and the Tommee Tippee Easyflow Drinking System is BRITISH DENTAL HEALTH FOUNDATION APPROVED.


Another article goes on to say that;

Using a cup will help keep babies teeth and gums healthy because the fluid spends less time in contact with teeth and gums but, even so it's best to avoid sugary drinks because they can cause tooth decay. If you do give juice, give occasionally and dilute as much as possible.

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Re: TBW guide: Changing from bottle to trainer cup
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2006, 12:20:59 pm »
Some more info I was given recently by my HV;

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Re: TBW guide: Changing from bottle to trainer cup
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2006, 20:10:29 pm »
I've just come across this post.  I tried every type of sippy cup that had handles, avent magic spout, avent other sippys, tommy tippee etc, then someone suggested a straw cup.  I could only find one without handles.  Guess what, she took to it like a duck to water. She loves it.  She has a couple of times drank a whole beaker of water.
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Re: TBW guide: Changing from bottle to trainer cup
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2006, 08:02:46 am »
I also started Calum on a staw cup last week, during our holiday he much prefered drinking from our water bottles than his sippy  ::)  So I bought him a trainer straw cup when we got home.

He even took his milk out of it one morning, when I had run out of bottles.....


.....From experience is better to start giving your baby milk in a cup as soon as you can to get them use to it. At 12months someone LO's bottle free and are taking milk in a cup.



The cup challenge

To ease the transition from breast or bottle to cup, Professor Wolke suggests letting your child bite with his gums, suck and otherwise manipulate an empty cup or trainer cup starting at about six months. When your baby becomes accustomed to playing with it, offer him water or diluted juice in a cup at snack time. It should help ease the weaning process for both of you.


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