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Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« on: March 13, 2006, 11:10:50 am »
Hi, this is my first post here, as I'm totally confused by my nearly 12 week old son!

We haven't been following EASY exactly, but a similar kind of routine that my son has really put himself into, 3 hourly feeds etc. He started to sleep long stretches from 3 weeks old, then for the last 6 weeks he has had a dreamfeed at 11pm and has slept til 7am. He has bath, bottle, bed at 7pm and goes off to sleep easily, as he does for (most) day time naps. But suddenly, he's waking in the night - 2am, 5am, 4.30am, but he's not hungry! He chats to himself for up to 30 mins before calling for us - we then try to get him back to sleep but end up feeding him as he is of course hungry by that point. Why is he suddenly waking up now?

How old is your child? 12 weeks
What’s his/her daily routine? 3 hourly
What’s nap routine?  4 per day.
How long are naps? From 45 mins to 1.5 hours
What's bedtime routine? Time? Bath, massage, bottle, bed. 7pm
Do you bottle or breastfed?? Bottle
How much? or how long? 5 bottles during day (7-8oz) and a 4oz dreamfeed
If breastfed.. one side or both?? (at each feed)
How many wakes per night? Usually none, now 1-2.
What’s your LO like when waking at night? How long is he/she up? Pretty calm. An hour (if fed).
When you go to him/her is she fussing or crying? Or is it a mantra cry? Fussing really. What's a mantra cry?
What have you tried to settle?? Doesn't like PU/PD or shhs/pat. Cuddle, then end up feeding.
What do you do for A time and how long is it?
Are there developmental issues such as teething or milestones? Growth spurt???
Have you introduced cereal? Why, how much, and how many times a day? (for LO’s under 6 months) No
Do they have a prop? If so what is it? No, hates dummies.
Do they have a lovie? No.

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2006, 17:30:46 pm »
OMG! I could have written the exact same post. Can't wait to see what answers you get. My DS also isn't hungry. He just wants soothing back to sleep. I'm beginning to wonder if I'll ever get a full nights sleep!
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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2006, 12:47:12 pm »
We are already on 4 hour feed because at every 3 hours DS was just messing with the bottles as if he wasn't hungry. He has been much better at every 4 hours. Makes EASY a bit more difficult though. His awake time is catching up though now. Currently 1hr45 mins.  I also try to limit his day time sleep to 4 hours so that he sleeps for about 11 at night.

We did have some success last night. Tried w2s at 2am because I felt that the 3am and 5.30am wakings were habitual. Thought I'd work on the 3am first. Well, he slept ALL night!!!!!  :o :o :o ;D could be a fluke. Going to try it again tonight to see what happens. Unfortunately I am now an habitual waker at 5.30 so I didn't get a full nights sleep! LOL!

Wiki: are your wakings always at the same time. If so, try doing w2s an hour before the first waking.
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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2006, 09:37:49 am »
Hi all,

Well, a bit of a crazy update from me. I had a look at Tracy's book at a friends house yesterday, and decided that the sudden random wakings last week were a growth spurt, as they were at random times, and once he was fully awake, he would take a full bottle and settle!

HOWEVER, before I read that, we decided that maybe the dreamfeed was disturbing his sleep patterns, as he really only takes 3-4oz then, compared to 7-8oz every three hours during the day. So we let him sleep, the first night he did 8.15pm-6.45am, then 7.15pm-6.35am, and last night, 7pm-6.55am!! So we're not sure what was causing him to wake up, but I'm sure at least this week its not hunger. He was 12 weeks yesterday!!!!!!

We are getting the messing about with bottles thing though now, at the 10am and 1pm feeds. Maybe I need to hold him off a bit longer and move towards 4hours? He wouldn't finish his 7am bottle today though either, maybe the Commonwealth Games was distracting him!

Regarding sleep, his naps aren't for consistent times, but he probably gets 3-4 hours a day total, sometimes 5.

Thanks for all your advice, if I move towards 4 hour EASY, do I just put 1oz more in each bottle, so he gets the same amount? I find his hunger cues the hardest to spot, as he has never really ever yelled for food. And he doesn't have the newborn cues anymore really.

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2006, 09:19:49 am »
Hi There

I have a very similar problem. I have been on EASY since birth and when my DS was 13 weeks old I decided to drop the dreamfeed as digesting it seemed to be keeping him awake at between 2.30-6am. Always made a straining noise and he tended to get annoyed that I woke him to feed him at 10.30 (unfortunately he suffers with very bad wind/reflux so could not feed him in his sleep).

For the last 2 weeks he has been sleeping 7pm to 6am with the occasional wake-up. But the last 3 nights he has been up every hour. Not hungry because I usually am able to spot that and add in extra ounces. He's unswaddled, half way up the crib seemingly trying to get back to sleep. First I thought he was cold, so I wrapped him up but an hour later he had shimmied up his bed. He repeated this several times. Is this a developmental thing? Is he practicing a new skill? Does he not like being swaddled anymore?

My DH is going to buy a baby sleeping bag today so we can begin a process of elimination (always seems to be a process of elimination doesn't it?).

I have been logging his days for the last 9 weeks and noticed that the last few days we have slipped backwards from a 4 hours EASY which we were working towards (we'd got to 3 3/4 hours between feeds) to 3 hours 15 mins or 3 1/2 hours. His naps also seem too long and he cannot stay awake. So here is my plan of attack so to speak.

1) I think I need to fix the time between feeds issue so he is fed at 6, 10, 2 and I cluster at 4.30 and 6.30 (in bed by 7pm). Then I can truly gauge the amount he takes normally 6-7oz and whether he needs more - to rule out growth spurt

2) Then I need to keep him awake more to practice his new found shimmying skill which allows him to travel short distances on his back (hasn't mastered rolling on his side yet). This may cut down on the need to practice at night. Interestingly I have been following Tracey's idea of catching him at the first few yawns. I take him to his room have some down time for 15 minutes then put him down and he fusses but eventually goes off. But today I tried keeping him up longer than his first few yawns and he was quite happy to stay up another 1/2 hour before getting cranky. He then was much easier to put down as he was dead tired. Perhaps I have been putting him down too soon for fear of him being overtired but really he needs to be a bit overtired.

3) I need to make sure his daytime naps are not too long (currently around 5 hours with 11 hours at night).

4) Need to move from swaddling (he did have his hands swaddled to his face), which up to now he has been fine with ( a little resistance but not much) to a sleeping bag (we tend to like our bedrooms cool) so that we cannot factor out discomfort.

I just hope I get my sleep through the night baby back one day. Doesn't like sometimes, just when you think you are totally tuned in to them. You wake up and someone has put a completely different baby in the crib and you have to start over!

Jo

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2006, 14:52:18 pm »
Jo & girls ! Wow - this sounds just like elliot.
He just turned 4mos and is up all the time in the night. He is up all the time, last night 9:30, 10:30, 12:30, 2:00, 3:30, 4:30 , 5:00, 6:00. Its been like this for 3 weeks and I am seriously beginning to loose my mind.

I, like you, see the yawns and think "uh oh better get him down for a nap" Elliot goes down so easy I always thought it was the right thing to do. We have also been on a 3 hour schedule (because I didnt think he could stay up long enough) and I dont think he gets enough awake time or enough food.

 I am always afraid he will be overtired just like you! He gets 5hrs of naps (sometimes a little more) and goes to bed at 6:30 and we start our day at 7am. Guess this is too much sleep, right?

Normally for his first nap he'd only be up for an hour and 10 minutes or so. Today I pushed it to an hour and 45min and he was really tired, but went down in his crib so fast it was great!

I still swaddle elliot, he loves it, and I dont feel this needs to be changed yet for him - but let me know how it goes for you.

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2006, 15:24:30 pm »
Stacy
thank you! can you tell me when and for how long your son naps?
3 naps a day? About an hour each?
Thank you.

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2006, 15:29:23 pm »
This sounds completely like my Jed!!

He is 3 1/2 months old and was sleeping 6 hours a night.  The last week he's been waking up earlier and earlier.  And finally last night he woke up every hour from 11 pm to 5 am.  I finally gave up and fed him at 5 am, instead of holding out until 6.  He's been on the 3.5 hr EASY.  But it's been tough because he can't take more than a 30 minute nap (w2s has been pretty tough).  I want to cluster in the evening but I don't know how since I do notice that he wakes up more if I feed him more.  I've tried the dream feed, but I think it messes up his digestion since he's had a little bit of reflux.  

I've been feeding him (both sides since he seems more content) at 6 am , 9:30, 1pm, 4:30 and 8 pm (bath time at 7:30pm) dream feed at 11 pm or 11:30.  He doesn't ever seem super hungry at any of those feeds.  When he wakes up he cries a lot and it's hard to settle him down these past few days with pat/sh. 

I feel like he's not getting enough sleep during the day because his naps are so short and he's overtired.  But I just can't get him to sleep longer.  I'd LOVE to see what everybody else is doing and how you cluster at this age at night.

THanks!!

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2006, 15:37:09 pm »
sinye
I had the same thing - elliot just seemed like he was regressing with his sleep. He went from 8 hours to7 to 6 and 5 really fast. It was awful! Now he doesnt even do 5. I need to push a 4 hour routine...
I wonder if I should do the DF as it seems to disturb his sleep? Advice anyone?
I would love to hear advice for sinye as her feeding schedule seems okay???

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2006, 16:24:26 pm »
Dear All

Seems we have all or are all experiencing this mysterious 3 to 4 month problem. On reading Tracey's books she does specify that this window of transition is a difficult one but I don't think I appreciated just how demoralising it would be after we had such a good routine going.

At the moment our routine is 6, 9.45, 1.30 then clustering at 4.30 and 6.30. I'm loathe to put the dream feed back in as so many nights he has quite happily slept 11 hours. We prefer the 6 am start which  can make implementing a four hour EASY a little tricky sometimes.

I am wondering if he is in some kind of pain though, which is keeping him up at night. Everytime I went in last night it he was crying with his eyes closed and his legs really drawn up to his stomach and had managed to get himself up to the top of his bed with no covers on, like he'd been writhing. We have always had a problem with wind and silent reflux. 3 out of 5 bottles seem to cause him discomfort during a feed. A friend recommended a local chiropractor who offers the McTimoney technique for babies and I thought I might try that.

There are so many things it can be, it's difficult to know which to try first. Maybe riding it out and accepting that I'll not get good quality sleep until he leaves for college is the way forward ;)Jo

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2006, 16:29:31 pm »
the way you describe your son writhing to the top of his crib , this is what Ryan did a lot at that age , his refux peaked at 5 months where he was no longer coping with the pain , he started waking in the night. he used to draw his legs up in the night and cry with his eyes shut , he never wanted picking up he just wanted to go back to sleep.
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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2006, 17:04:45 pm »
I'm sort of confused by the cluster feedings because in Tracy's book she says not to cluster feed after 8 weeks.  What is everyone's thoughts on this?

ElliotLove: I'll try cluster feeding him today.  I fed him at 5 am, and 9am, and I'll feed him at 12:30, 4,6, and 8 and see what happens.  Is that too much??

Regarding pain - this has been an ongoing discussion in my house.  My mother-in-law sometimes comes over to help out at night.  She's convinced that my lo just has gas and is in pain and just needs to be cuddled at night.  I think his reflux has really calmed down since he rarely spits up anymore.  My lo is often a screamer and it's hard to tell if he's tired or hungry or in pain, though I am inclined to think he's tired because he can just drop off into a heavy sleep after a crying spell.  I think that he just doesn't know how to selfsoothe and put himself to sleep.  any thoughts?

btw - Jed just took a 40 min nap after a w2s.  A 5 minute improvement!!

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2006, 17:52:00 pm »
stacy
thanks for posting your schedule. Right now I am just concentrating on eating spaced 4 hours (or 3.45) apart. I just have to let the naps fall where they may and keep him up for at least 1hr45minutes between times. what do you think?

I am cognisant of the "EAS", but I cant possibly have it all work out perfectly, right?

Poor guy, he is really tired today.

Also, he has only had 10 oz total  :-[
He ate 4oz at 8am
6oz at 12am

Im really hoping he'll have 7oz for his next feeding
Anymore thoughts or advice is appreciated.


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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2006, 18:12:54 pm »
Id love to think that he is teething.....but no, its just his schedulle and how wrong it is for him.
Today he has cut both his naps short (it figures)
First nap - 1 hour
Second nap  - he was so tired and went down at 12:35 and woke at 1:05. I just went in and held him for a minute and now he is back down. Hopefully he'll nap for a good hour.

Thank you for all of your advice. The last 1/2 hour he's been up today I have kept very low key. Just holding him or walking around the house...etc....and so far he goes down with no fuss.

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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2006, 20:05:05 pm »
Hi !

I feel so encouraged that others are having the EXACT same problem as me. My son is now 4 1/2 months and we are still trying to do 3 hr easy.
Ok well that is all starting to change after reading this thread. These night wakings have been going since he turned 3 months. He was sleeping 7hrs, then regressed by an hour regularly..ugh! I have been experimenting with things since then, and am exhausted. Now we pray for a 4 hour stretch before we begin the two hour wake ups all night long. I just felt the same as Elliot's mom that he was tired after 1 15 mn. It will be interesting if we all post updates to see if our babies have improved in a week or two ! Keep me updated !!

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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2006, 20:12:55 pm »
so good not to feel alone! Lets be a little support group for each other, okay?
Elliot sure is tired after an hour and 1/2, but we are keeping him up and not overstimulating him. It takes a lot of carrying and walking around with him, but its working. He goes down fine and his naps are longer.
Today all his feeds were 4 hrs apart, one was 3.5 which is fine. I just pray he has a good feed before bed and also the dreamfeed :o

Since I have started this I thought elliot drank 3oz a feeding....but now I am seeing its really like 6 or 7. I am praying that tonight be the first night he does well!!

Charlie - they CAN stay up longer!! I am witness to this!! :) :)

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2006, 15:55:20 pm »
just to add my two cents here - u may want to try cluster feeding but i personally wouldn't at this time.  just something else you have to 'undo' sooner than later anyway.  how are things coming along??
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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2006, 17:11:35 pm »
he woke last night - about 4 times....I tried to feed him once but he wasnt interested, so he didnt eat after his DF....
This morning he took 5oz at 7 and 7oz at 11
I noticed one time when he woke he was hot and felt sweaty....so I unswaddled, lowered the heat and had him in only a Tshirt. I think this is another reason why he wakes at night!

during the day, Its still a struggle to keep him up though. He gets tired so fast. Also my husband never gets to see him, no matter what I do I cant seem him to get him to stay up later than 6:30. I would love a 7:30 bedtime. Even 7:00

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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2006, 17:23:11 pm »
Thanks.....
I was hoping that once he gets better at 4 hour EASY he may be able to stay up just a 1/2 hour later....
Right now he doesnt quite take 2 hour naps...and he cant quite go 4 hours between feedings. Just now he was crying at 3.5 hours....

Maybe once he solidly has the 4 down he can stay up a little later because his naps will be longer??

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2006, 18:11:36 pm »
I get tears now just thinking about it...
Saturday morning my husband saw elliot and smiled...and then started to tear up because he doesnt get to see him. He said "I miss him so much"
Even if he would just stay up 15 minutes later my husband could give him his bottle :'(
Thank you again for your encouragement. Elliot is a great napper. I am lucky in that.

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2006, 19:58:54 pm »
Wonderful to find some common scenario's amongst our 3-4 month old's.  My daughter has been a great sleeper and very settled child ( my second ) since early on.  Has slept through from 7:7:30pm to 6-7am for a while now,although the last 3 nights I am up every 3 hours.  I am now up at 3:45am after another waking and feed looking for some inspiration and other views from Mums.  I thought the wakings was leading up to the move towards solids, as I had my first one on solids by 4 months.  I am still breastfeeding completely and was sure that part of this was due to not being satisfied after feeding, although after reading views may consider trying to reduce a few sleeps during the day.  At the moment she would sleep 4-5 hours a day, plus I expected her sleeping through as noted above. Born 9 pounds and very good feeder, although I am feeling very drained ( as we all know ) after a constant feed fest before the day has begun.  It seems that 3-4 months also may be a consdierable growth stage for the babes, as they are wanting to be more active, although can't get anywhere ??? Instead of putting her down for what I thought was a sleep during the day when she was niggling, perhaps just bored and needs to need another activity instead. Anyhow a number of great comments to help me with and appreciated the fact that others were in the same boat - great forum !!!
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« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2006, 20:19:36 pm »
The only thing that confuses me about the naps is that in BW it seems that babies this age should get about 4 or 5 hours of sleep during the day so your baby seems to be on track?
Thoughts anyone?

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2006, 20:48:57 pm »
Thanks Stacy- that is very helpful info. for me. :) I appreciate you being so specific. I"m also glad to know how long it took you to
transition to 4 hour EASY. I was kind of hoping to do it in 2 weeks ( My son is 19 weeks). I wasn't sure if that was realistic or not. So far
he has done better than I expected at extending, but I"m sure there will be bumps ..ha! I would just love a good long stretch at night !


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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2006, 09:32:45 am »
Hi everyone

Here is an update on the things I have tried. We are successfully moving to a 4 hour easy and I can now keep him up for nearly 2 hours. He does sometimes wake 15 mins before a feed. His consumption has gone up to 7-8 oz per feed as a result so over 5 feeds he's taking 35 oz ish, which for a 14lb 3 month 3 week old is plenty. But he does still get those 5 feeds in 12 hours at 6, 10, 2, 4.30 and 6.30. I re-read Tracey's book on growth spurts in the fourth month and figured it was that so decided the last three nights to add back in a dream feed at 10pm. He would not take more than 3 oz and it made no difference to the night wakings. So I'm not going to bother with the dreamfeed and see what happens.

He wakes erratically through the night, usually about 4-5 times. Only 2 of these do I need to go in and tuck him in. He's waking early at 5.30am for a 'power poo'  :). So clearly he's getting through his food quickly. I suppose this doesn't seem too bad when I read the nightmares others are having, but for a baby who always slept soundly it's a new experience.

We bought a sleeping bag, which was a success, so I can be confident coldness is not issue. I lightly swaddle his top half, but he seems happy not being swaddled anymore.

He's still a good napper, taking 2 x 2hour naps and 1 45 minute nap per day.

I have raised his mattress and give him antacids in his last bottle but this hasn't changed the nightwaking.

I was interested by the post on getting ready for solids, as he constantly chews his hand before, during and in between feeds while awake.

I just wish I knew what the night wakings were about.

Jo

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 .....solids expansion
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2006, 13:33:47 pm »
I have continued the EASY with both of my girls and as mentioned in a previous post and completely believe it works fabulously. My second who is now coming up to 4 months in 1 week's time has been waking at night after sleeping from 8am - 6am at 8 weeks to waking sometimes twice each night. I remember from my first this happened at a similar time.  As we have all agreed a complex stage, with increased activity, demand for more milk and change in naps.  All of this is happening with me and I am trying to work through it as much as I can.  Although I will expand on further my experience introducing solids at 4 months with my first.  Both of my girls were born 9 pound and continue to sit on the 91st percentile in weight ( I make this comment as I am not sure this impacts the need for more food or not ) and have found that by 4 months that the milk was not satisfying them enough.  I know that the recommended time solids are introduced varies in every country between 4-6 months. Although my personal feeling was that my baby was ready to move on at this time, as the night wakings were out of the ordinary, she was interested food when others were eating around her and even when my milk supply adapted to the increase in demand, it felt like she still looking for something else.  You can call me impatient maybe, but I felt I had nothing to lose by introducing a small amount of baby rice with milk and see what she thought.  We were living in the UK at the time and my health nurse encouraged it when I discussed it with her, as long as the milk feeds were not going to reduce.  Anyhow, we never looked back. I continued the EASY 4 hour and introduced the solid, which she loved like chocolate, slept through the night again and we continued on.  Obviously this is just my own experience, and everyone has their own preference. But after going with what I honestly felt my daughter was telling me, I went with my instinct, she was happy and so was I, as I got my night's sleep back again.   

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2006, 06:47:38 am »
Hi,
My son has just turned 5mos. And the last night was the 3rd in a row he woke many times. He sleeps about 14hrs in total (about 10 at night). You have written above about shorten naps. And my question is how to do this? Should I wake him?
Thank you in advance

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2006, 19:12:20 pm »
Again me :) How did you shorten naps? You sat in a chair with a watch and after an hour you said "enough" and woke you baby? Here's my routine. What do you suggest? He wakes up about 6.00-6.45. And here's his routine (let's say he wakes at 6.30):
6.30 wake
E: 7.00 bf
A
S 8.30-10.10 (about 1h 40)
A
E 11.00 bf
A
S 12.30-14.15 (about 1h 50')
E 14.30 bf
A
S 16.30-17.30 (about 50')
E 18.00 bf
A 19.30  bath
E 19.50 bf
20.00 put in bed
One more thing: if his first nap is shorter (eg.45') the second one is longer (2h 30'). So he usually sleeps during the day over 4hrs.

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2006, 20:48:45 pm »
Hi All,

I am having a similar problem with my almost 4 month old.  We started the EASY routine from the get go with him and by 8 weeks he was sleeping 8 to 9 hours a night.  Around 12 weeks he started waking again once a night (sleeping only a 6 hour block) very hungry.  The problem is that if we do feed him at night, he is completely uninterested in his feedings in the morning.   I am having a very hard time getting him to eat a complete feeding during the day (6 to 7 oz).  Instead, he will nibble and take more like 4-5 oz.  We've tried the DF but have had little success with this.  He just isn't interested.  A couple of nights, I tried the pacifier when he woke up and it seemed to satisfy him, but he would not fall back asleep and as soon as the pacifier would fall out of his mouth, he would begin to fuss again.  After being awake 2 to 3 hours in the night for several nights, I gave this up.  He does seem to be moving pretty well into a 4 hour routine during the day and is able to stay awake for about 2 hours.  His schedule is a little more erratic than my other kids were only because we are out and about more taking people to school etc.  Does anyone have any thoughts?

Thanks!!!

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2006, 22:16:30 pm »
Aaahhhh - i'm joining this support group!  My son just turned 12 weeks and has started waking 3 times a night, whereas at about 9 weeks he started sleeping through without a dream feed until 3-4am and then again until the morning.  He goes to bed between 7:30 and 8:00 and wakes up at 7:00.  He has suddenly started taking a full feed at 11:30-12:30 at night (haven't been able to get him to take a dreamfeed), wakes up at 3am but puts himself back to sleep after a while, then wakes between 4 and 5 am for a feed.  I thought this change may have been due to a growth spurt last week or the fact that he had a bad cold and cough but things seem to be getting worse, not better!  Before the growth spurt and cold he had about a week straight of 2 two hour naps and one 45 minute cat nap so I thought he was putting himself into 4 hour EASY but now he is eating every 3 hours again and taking shorter daytime naps (first one is 1.5 hours, then 3 45min naps).  Do you think I should be taking the initiative to move him gradually to 4 hour EASY?
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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2006, 14:58:49 pm »
As I see I'm not alone with that problem.  :-\
Stacy, these wakings are new, I mean the number of them: 7-12. He used to wake only twice for feeding. Besides sometimes I heard his voice, so I gave him a paci and he fell asleep. I dont't df.
This night he woke "only" 4 times: 2 times he wanted to eat, 3rd - he slept after shhh, 4th - he stayed awake from 00.30 til 2.15 :( And it seemed like he was having a good time. At first I hoped he would settle, but he didn't. About 1.00 (the previous feed was an hour earlier) I tried to feed him but he wasn't interested. He talked to himself, observed the room, etc (he was in a cot all the time). Like A time or so :( I hoped he would sleep longer, but he woke at 6.00 as usual.
Maybe I must accept this situation  ??? but I'm not pleased with that.

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2006, 18:49:24 pm »
Gosh, I didn't realise I was starting a support group! ;D

I really hope this gets better for everyone, we have the nights sorted now but the daytime naps have gone terribly wrong, I just can't work out when he's tired any more, and by the time I do, he's overtired and screams before all naps - its soul-destroying!

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2006, 18:57:03 pm »
Stacy,

Would you mind sharing how much extra you gave to your baby during the day ?

 I BF, but have also tried giving an extra oz.
of EBM after a couple feeds. It seems on the days I don't do it, he wakes up more at night. Sometimes he spits up so much afterwards I feel like I'm forcing too much. It's hard to know what to do. I guess I'll just keep up the experiments..ha! We have made  a lot of progress in transitioning to 4 hr easy. His naps have stretched longer ( with the help of a pacifier at the 40 min. mark ), and seems to be able to stay awake almost the full 2 hours at least in the first half of the day. I think we are almost there. Now we just have to decide who's more dependant on that pacifier-him or us....ha!

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2006, 20:34:54 pm »
I guess that sounded bad how I originally worded it. My lo also seems to drink it up, it's just afterwards we get more spit up, so that's why it was confusing to me. I have just done 1 oz extra . I was just curious  how you figured out that he needed more and if so how much and how long you kept suppplementing.

Also would love to hear  how you weaned your lo and how long it took.

Thanks !

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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2006, 20:53:42 pm »
you may want to start by increasing just a half oz at a time or so as his belly probably isn't big enough to hold the extra ounce as of yet. work your way up slowly and everything should be fine!
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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2006, 13:20:45 pm »
Hi ladies,

I'm having the same problem here at 4 months. Actually Brandon turned 4 months on Tuesday and the night wakings started Wednesday night. They are random and FREQUENt. He seems hungry whne he waking and roots incessantly. He also wakes up hysterically crying - he is not playing in his crib. I also have noticed that his daytime sleep seems interrrupted as well. He is on a 3 hour easy - so today I'm moving him to 3.5 hours and then to 4. I'm leaving for Jamaica next Friday I hope I can get this sorted out by then.

Any advice? Do you think moving from 3 to 4 is a good idea? Do you think it's a growth spurt??

I need help getting through this.
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Brandon - 11/28/05
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Re: Sudden night wakings - at 3 months
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2006, 17:05:27 pm »
This happened to a friend of mine last week, when her little girl was 4 months, she was just like that. Her cranial osteopath told her to expect a growth spurt, so I'm guessing that's what it is? This 3-4 month thing is tough! Enjoy Jamaica, babies seem to do well on holiday!