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Re: "typical" A time
« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2006, 01:22:54 am »
thanks kelly, I think I will take a couple of days and then approach it on monday.  I think we need to stick to just under 2.5 hours in the morning.  I think I also need to stick with time, say 9 and 1.  Hopefully something will kick in.  She can only go so long without good naps????
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Re: "typical" A time
« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2006, 02:48:19 am »
Hello ladies! I am so glad that I am not the only one with the HUGE log. I would love to put into an excel or graph format. It has been so long since I messed aound with that program. I am a little type A personality... okay a lot. :D

Anyway, I cant help but think that these early risers need less day time sleep. I dont know, but this dillema reminds me of when we hadnt switched to a 4 hr EASY. At that time Gage was waking at all hours on the night just farting around. I am going to try to limit Gage's nap amount to around 2hrs. I am going to try this for about a week. I will let you know how it turns out.

Today Gage had 2.5, 4.0, and 4.0 of activity time :o This a little boy who had a h*ell of a time getting past 45 min! Also, he fell asleep in the car and the stoller for the first time this weekend! Wooohoooo freedom here we come! Oh and he cut his first tooth today! Has anyone else lo cut teeth yet?

kat1jk, I can't remember did we already look at your schedule? If not post it and I will look at it.

Zandersmummy, I like the wine idea! It sounds like a good way to clear the mind. ;) 



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Re: "typical" A time
« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2006, 03:01:40 am »
Today Gage had 2.5, 4.0, and 4.0 of activity time  This a little boy who had a h*ell of a time getting past 45 min!

Our guy couldn't stay up past 1.5 last month! Now we're at about 2.0 regularly. We've had a 3.5 and a 4.0 in the past week or so and it's been fine -- a little overtiredness, but nighttime sleep not affected; it's the last period of the day when by the log he should really need a nap, and we've put him down, but he's made it clear he doesn't want one.  :o Of course, were I to actually try and keep him up for that long, there would be hell to pay.  ::)

Oh and he cut his first tooth today! Has anyone else lo cut teeth yet?

Theron has two poking straight up, and we suspect two more about to cut through. Night wakings consist mainly of applications of orajel, and that seems to settle him back down (touch wood!).

I'll muck around with the spreadsheet and see what I can put up. Maybe I should copyright it and make my fortune lol  ;D

Boy, a glass of wine sounds good even to this teetotaller. Think I'll join you in a chocolate slainte instead!



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Re: "typical" A time
« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2006, 03:49:59 am »
we are cutting our 4th tooth today.  I think that is our problem today.  I also think we need to work out our feeding.  We had switched to BF after solids and most of the friends I know do that.  Books I've read recommend that, but I think it is cutting into her intake of BM.  So our current schedule looks like this (on a good day, not today)

7 a.m.             Wake/Nurse
9:30 - 10:30     Sleep
10:30              Solids
11:00              Nurse
1/1:30             Sleep
2:30/3             Solids
3:30                Nurse
5                     Solids
7                     Nurse

So today I swtiched to doing BF 1 hour before solids.  But when should they do all at one.  Lauren, are you doing them all at once? (I should really move this to Eat board)

so tomorrow I'll continue with nursing before to make sure she is getting enough...this may be our night waking???? so confused.
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Re: "typical" A time
« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2006, 04:23:16 am »
i personally b/f an hour before solids; currently on four b/f and two solids in 24 hour period. will probably move up to three solids here pretty soon. i guess i always felt it important to fill him up on milk and let him take the solids if he was still hungry, rather than vice versa. that'll change in a couple of months when he's eating more solids and getting more of his nutrients from them as opposed to me, i think.

today though DS had solids at 1pm, his medicine at 2pm and b/f at 2.30pm -- just the way our schedule worked out. and i could definitely tell that he didn't b/f as much.



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Re: "typical" A time
« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2006, 08:03:39 am »


This was our routine yesterday;
6am
E730
A
S0945 (opening his curtains after 1hr. he woke 15mins later)
E1200
A
S1345 - 1hr 20min
E1630
A inc bath
E1850
S1900
he woke at 1940 screaming - I had to resettle with a hand on his chest and he was off again  Smiley

0430 he woke and starts talking loudly - (if this has been his 'normal bedtime of about 1945 it would have made it it 0515 and of course we would have brough him in with us because it was so close to the 6am mark IYKWIM) - I went to him after 30 min of talking progressed to crying, I changed his nappy and sat with him and "sang" winnie the pooh to him, he was starting to cuddle in but still wide awake and watching everything.

I decided just to put him back in his cot, he had no intention of returning to sleep at that point, he wasn't cry either - so I put his pooh lightshow on and went back to bed. I think he fell asleep again about 0530   ???

I then woke at 0730 (bit more civilised) and went through, as soon as he heard me the eye sprung open. I think in all he had 9.5hrs from 7pm to 0430, then max another 2 until 7am = 11.5hr, because everything was shifted back 45mins to 1hr, it was easier for him to go back to sleep until 0730. I ideally I want him to cut out the 1hr waking and move him bedtime back to 1930ish if he needs 11.5 hours Huh

So my thoughts are now;
1.caught in a cycle of tiredness - I know its only been 1 night, however Dh and I noticed straightaway he is happier and actually talking again today (although he's only been up an hour), depending on how todays naps go I will put him to bed earlier again, although it may be because he is up at a sensible time, his naps will be later anyway and I won't be playing catch-up at the end of the day resulting in a huge 'A' time.


Today Gage had 2.5, 4.0, and 4.0 of activity time  This a little boy who had a h*ell of a time getting past 45 min!

Our guy couldn't stay up past 1.5 last month! Now we're at about 2.0 regularly. We've had a 3.5 and a 4.0 in the past week or so and it's been fine -- a little overtiredness, but nighttime sleep not affected; it's the last period of the day when by the log he should really need a nap, and we've put him down, but he's made it clear he doesn't want one.  :o Of course, were I to actually try and keep him up for that long, there would be hell to pay.  ::)

Katriona - would you mind posting your routine? your LO is not that much older than Calum. Your post above about the jump in A times is like us a bit, I have posted my log, had to transfer to PDF, becasue you can't upload excels docs  ::) ::)

Kelly/Kate - I went to bed after the film last night about wetting myself with laughter about your posts (I think the wine had something to do with it as well ???)

Alice - what is your routine like now, how muach Nap time does Gage get?

Natasha - funny you should mention that about he PM nap, CAlum usually goes 3hr but yesterday she started rubbing his eyes at 2.5hr, so I whisked him up to bed, he played for 15mins then fell asleep for 1hr 20min.
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Re: "typical" A time
« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2006, 09:29:54 am »
Sucess today she slept 2x1.5hr naps a very happy Mum ;D This is how it looked today:

6.30am - Wake
Eat
9.45am - Nap 1.5hrs
Eat
2.15pm - Nap 1.5hrs
Bath
Eat
7.15pm - Bed and is now asleep it is 7.25pm.

So that is: 3.15,3 and 3.5hrs very happy with that lets hope she sticks to it.

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Re: "typical" A time
« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2006, 09:36:07 am »
Cool - 8)

Calum went down after 2.75hrs 1st 'A' time  ;D
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Re: "typical" A time
« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2006, 11:58:20 am »
You're all doing better than me today - Zander slept until 6am (so 11.5 hours too Lauren!) then went down at 9am (left DH in charge so he was overtired but so was I so I stayed in bed!) but only slept for 45 minutes and he's just gone down again at 1pm and is pretty tired again.  I'm going to have to force him to make this a long nap - oh, what fun!

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Re: "typical" A time
« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2006, 17:52:59 pm »
I'll cross my fingers but I think I am on to something. Gage had 2hrs 15 min of nap and slept 12hrs again! I hope this is not a fluke. Anyway this what yesterday's schedule looked like.

6am wake ::)
8:30 sleep

9:15 wake (usually on do 3.5 hrs of A time, but we were out and about)
1.10 sleep

2:40 wake
6:50 bed

6:52 wake :o

I am going to keep this up for a week or so and see what I can find out. I am afraid to limit his naps as if this is not the solution then I may train to wake early. Any thoughts on this?

Kat1jk, I had a huge struggle (knock on wood) to Gage to eat solids and formula. I started feeding him solids between 1.5-2.0 hrs after formula and he eats so much more. He still isnt much of a breakfast eater but I still offer it anyway, but come time for dinner he chows. Let me tell you this is so new! He ate like 6oz of solids for dinner the other night! Anyway, this stopped the night wakenings. I closely monitor his intake and make sure he is getting enough as he was eating ALL night. In fact, when I tried other means to get him to sleep he kept waking up. I know it is hard to keep track when you are breast feeding, but maybe the gals in the bf forum can help. Gage eats between 28-34 oz of formula plus solids. I am willing to bet this is the prob. Also, your routine looks good. How old is your lo again? I am assuming around 6-7 mths. If around 7 mths I might try to extend 2nd A time to 3hrs, but other than that looks good. Just some thoughts.
 


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Re: "typical" A time
« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2006, 18:31:01 pm »
Well this is us so far today;

W0730  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  (after being awake @0430 for 1hr  :o)
E0730
A (2.75hr)
S1015-1130 - 1.25hr
E1200
A (2.25hr) I put him to bed a tad early
S1345 -1430 (DH woke him up, I spent 45min trying to extend and got another 45min) until 1600
E1630
A inc bath @1830
E1850
S in cot awake at 1900 ( and STILL bl@@dy awake !!!)

........1940 - still awake
........1950 - still awake and crying (tears and all!!)
« Last Edit: April 23, 2006, 18:53:45 pm by Calums_Mum »
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Re: "typical" A time
« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2006, 18:55:40 pm »
He's not impressed with the 7pm bedtime today then Lauren!  Do you think it could be because he woke later that morning as well as waking from his pm nap fairly late?  I wonder if there's an optimum time from wake up in the morning until bedtime - for us it used to be 12 hours, maybe a little longer now Zander's older?  We got this today;

6am Wake and BF
8am Breakfast
9am - 9.45am Nap (should have been earlier, was probably ready for his nap at around 8.30am - it all falls apart when I have a lie in but I'm still grateful for it!).  Initially re-settled fairly easily but woke after another 5 mins and I knew all hope was lost!
11am BF - Offered this feed as we weren't at home and I knew he was getting hungry for his lunch
12pm Lunch
1pm - 2.30pm Nap
2.30pm BF
4.45pm Dinner
6.20pm BF
6.45pm Asleep in bed

He was pretty exhausted by 6pm but we were at my mum's for dinner.  I'm going to go with Zander's natural rhythm of a short nap in the am and then a long nap in the pm and see where this gets us!  I'm also toying with using WTS tomorrow morning.

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Re: "typical" A time
« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2006, 18:58:13 pm »
Just went back in, put an hand om him and he was out like a light  ::) ::) ::)
.....it all falls apart when I have a lie in but I'm still grateful for it!

mmmm.. is this a new concept??  Not had a lie-in in a lllooooonnnngggg time  :P
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Re: "typical" A time
« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2006, 19:13:00 pm »
I always keep on at DH to let me have a lie in on one of the days at the weekend - he doesn't offer but I make darn sure it happens!!

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Re: "typical" A time
« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2006, 03:11:34 am »
gage's mom, I've started to do that with solids.  I think at night I might increase it.  she is 7.5 months and eating alot. She never seems to get full with solids, so maybe I should keep offering more.

this morning was weird, she woke at 6:30 and I let her play in her crib.  At 7 we nursed and she was out like a light ??? So I laid her back down and she slept for 30 minutes ???  Then she was only up for 2 hours.  I've noticed in the past that 2 hours and 10 minutes seems to do the trick.  3 hours for the next and 4 before bed.  We tried an early bedtime last night and not so good...I think I may have said that...and so tonight, our usual 7:30.  I think I'll work on the bedtime tweeking after we end the night feeds. 

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