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NEED HELP WITH 8 WEEK OLD WAKING IN NIGHT
« on: April 20, 2006, 12:58:19 pm »

HI I am another newbie and just needed some advice on my dd's sleeping during the night. We started her on the 3 hour EASY routine a week ago - things are going really well so far and we seem to be right on schedule 90% of the time.

However she is waking at 3am every night and i think she's got into the habit of waking up at this time. She's usually more in need of a nappy change than a feeding. (i'm Breast feeding and thats going really well) her night time routine is feed at 7pm , then bath, story then bed for 7.30pm, df at 10.00am(last 2 nights she has been a wake during this) back to bed at 10.30 and then awake around 3ish, back to bed by 4am and then sleeps through to 6.45 - 7am. She wont take a pacifier- gags on them.

This is my first baby and not sure if this is a good sleep pattern or not. She sleeps during the day at 11am, 2ish, and 4.30ish is awake for around 1 1/2 hr inculding feeding then she's tired again so not sure if she's over tired ???

Any help is much appreciated. Also finding it hard to figure out what type of baby she is. She only cries when wet or hungry(sometimes we have major melt down's if i dont act quickly with her..so she could be angel with a little bit of touchy)

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Re: NEED HELP WITH 8 WEEK OLD WAKING IN NIGHT
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2006, 15:10:36 pm »
Thanks for letting me know, i must have read Tracey's book a hundread times and couldnt quite figure out what was the norm( i know there is no such thing with a baby as they are all unique and individual but as this is my first i am completly clueless)

Thanks for the help- this site is amazing!!!!!

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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2006, 16:06:35 pm »
My 8 week old is doing the exact same schedule as your DD.  She wakes up at 3:30 almost exactly every night.  Sometimes she will go back to sleep until 6am (after we give her a paci and cuddles), but other nights she is just starving and needs a feed.  I feel really lucky because I know babies this age can wake so much more at night.  Right now our focus is getting her to take good naps during the day....so far she is doing well.  Everyday there seems to be one nap time that she fights with.  I guess this is normal too.  Good luck with your DD. They are so much fun!!!
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Re: NEED HELP WITH 8 WEEK OLD WAKING IN NIGHT
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2006, 21:08:16 pm »
Amazing - sounds like my 8 week old. I am also a first timer, so dont presume to know too much, but I was also worried that my LO had crreated a nocturnal habit.. originally it was at 12:30am. Just when I was thinking about trying wake to sleep she suddenly changed to 3:30/4am. I know its not a habit because she feeds for at least 20 mins, whereas I get the feeling from Tracey's books that a habit waking results ina very short, half hearted attempt to eat. I agree with the other posts - we are lucky as many babies still wake every 3 or 4 hours.. I have not yet introduced a dream feed as I was working on the basis of let sleeping babies lie but i suspect that this may be the answer to LO sleep ing thru. She has a last feed at 6pm and only wakes at 3:30 onwards.. so if she can sleep for 9 hours without waking technically she should be able to sleep thru if I introduce a dream feed.. i am just very nervous that she may add it to her lot and still wake at 3am, thereby robbing me of more sleep (I am sad and go to bed at 9pm for some sleep!)
She is back to waking at 12:30 this week as she has had a cold, and I was worried that by feeding her then I was sending the wrong signal as I know she is capable of going longer, but I have persuaded myself that illness is the exception to comfort feeding and needs to be offered. I tried ssh/pat for 15 mins and she was screaming so I 'gave in' and fed her - she ate for 10 mins and went back to sleep. Hope I havent taken the easy route but it seems mean to be hard on an 8 week old with a bunged nose! I am also doing 3 naps a day - for 2 I can put her in her crib awake and leave her pretty much immediately, but for the last one of the afternoon I often struggle. It is down to her being overtired - I started watching her very carefully and I have to give her an extra 5/10 mins of wind down time before this nap and sit with her for a bit longer. Its worth persevering though as it makes settling for the night so much easier if they are well rested during the day.

Have you always done the dream feed or just recently introduced it? Im curious to know how long your LO slept without it (if you ever didnt do one). Sounds like you are doing really well with everything!!

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Re: NEED HELP WITH 8 WEEK OLD WAKING IN NIGHT
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2006, 00:11:24 am »
Erinsmum (you must be English too - due to the way you spell mum)

My mum came to stay with me(I emmigrated from Manchester UK to Florida) for a month and insited on letting my lo sleep in her arms and wasnt keen on following the EASY plan so although dd is now 8 weeks old have only done EASY for the last 10days. Have done dream feed for the past week, baby seems to sleep better, doesnt make as much noise as she did before it- is more settled in her sleep.
Before i did EASY she went to bed at 10pm and slept till 3am - now i put her down at 7pm and she sleeps through to 3am with DF at 10pm. Havent tried putting her down at 7pm and letting her sleep through to am with out a dream feed - might try that next week.

She is having a rough night to night as she had her 2 month jabs today - since 5pm hasnt stopped crying and appears to be in a lot of pain...poor luv. I have no idea what to do to help her. How did yours cope with the vaccinations??

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Re: NEED HELP WITH 8 WEEK OLD WAKING IN NIGHT
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2006, 10:46:18 am »
I've only read your first post - I just want to add that at 8 weeks your situation is very very good. I think you'll find most of us on the breastfeeding board would be very envious. I would lower your expectations a little!

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Re: NEED HELP WITH 8 WEEK OLD WAKING IN NIGHT
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2006, 14:55:19 pm »
Samuels mum, thanks for that advice. Its so hard with Devon being my first and having read so many books - i think i've fallen in to the trap of comparing her to what i've read in books and not realising she's her and will do things in her own time - no two babies are the same.

 I always thought that when it said slept through the night it meant with out any wakes up at all. This whole motherhood thing is so much harder than i though but i have a life time to get use to its ups and downs.

I'm off to take a chill pill!

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Re: NEED HELP WITH 8 WEEK OLD WAKING IN NIGHT
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2006, 09:44:08 am »
Hi,

I am new to this so bare with me!

My 7.5 week daughter has been doing EASY for about 5 weeks and generally it is going really well.

She is bottle fed and drinking around 4 - 5 ounces per feed which is approx every 3.5 hours between 7:30am to 5:30pm and then we bath her at 7pm with feed at 7:30pm. We are doing bath first as she never settled properly doing feed then bath but then make sure she is put in her cot awake.

We then DF at around 11:15/30pm (more often than not asleep but sometimes awake) and then she sleeps through until about 4am and wakes I think as habit. We don't feed her at this time as she doesn't appear hungry, just really restless. As soon as we give her the pacifier she kind of settles again but never as deeply as the earlier sleep. She will then go until about 7am in and out of sleep (give or take 15 min).

I am unsure why she doesn't sleep as deeply at this time and was hoping for a bit of advice to try and settle her better. I was also thinking of introducing the 'sleep to wake' idea to see if this will stop the 4am wake up. Anyone else with this situation and any ideas how to make it better??!?!

Thanks.

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Re: NEED HELP WITH 8 WEEK OLD WAKING IN NIGHT
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2006, 15:12:07 pm »
Thank you so much for your advice. So much apprciated!

When I have fed her at this time she has taken no more than an ounce or 2 very slowly at most which has made me think that she isn't really that hungry although in answer to your question regarding the pacifier I am replacing it a couple of times..... should I then try the feed option or the wake to sleep option....?

In terms of being awake she does lie there with her eyes open but I know she will then drift in and out of sleep.. does this change the advice you would offer me?

Being a first time mum is so confusing especially when I do hear from some of my friends that their babies of between 6 & 8 weeks are sleeping from 11 to 6.30/7am so I suppose my expectations are for Emily to do the same (which is so wrong to have these)but then I do know all babies are different.

Thanks again!



 

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Re: NEED HELP WITH 8 WEEK OLD WAKING IN NIGHT
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2006, 15:31:53 pm »
E - 7:15 awake and eat
A - 7.45 - 8:45/ 9am when  I am seeing a couple of yawns and the staring into space!
S - 9:15/20 by the time Emily settles
Y

E - Waking about 10:30/40 - eating no later than 11am
A - Until about 12:30
S - From around 12:30 - 2pm
Y

E  - When waking around 2pm so between 2 & 2:30pm  for eating
A - From 3ish until about 4pm
S - 4pm ish (if she settles at this time which she doesn't always do)
Y

E - Between 5 & 5:30 depending on earlier feed and sleep time
A - For about 45 min
S - Will put for a nap at around 45 min before next feed and bath
y

A - This is where we kind of turn it around a bit so she has her bath at around 6:45/ 7pm (no later than 7pm)
E - After bath
S - Straight to bed after eat after we have had a 'chat' about her day! More often than not she is awake when we put her to bed

DF - 11:15/30 and will do a nappy change if needed and then staright to bed

I hope all this makes sense and you are so right about ignoring what others say & do!!

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Re: NEED HELP WITH 8 WEEK OLD WAKING IN NIGHT
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2006, 16:11:37 pm »
This does happen some times but then sometimes it can be an hour...every day is a bit different. i have given worse case scenario! However I do not let her sleep more than 2 hours at any given time.
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Re: NEED HELP WITH 8 WEEK OLD WAKING IN NIGHT
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2006, 17:00:39 pm »
Thank you- I will let you know how I get on!
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