anyone want to chat about the 2-1 nap switch?

[PeepersMom]

Go LUKE! 

And  Tyler my friend, 5 minutes does NOT equal a nap.  Actually Judy I have a friend with a daughter who did the exact same thing during the transition.  If she caught even a 5 min snooze the nap was shot!  How can that be?

We had such a weird night that i wonder if I should post about it on the night waking board or if he is just getting over his illness still.  He went to sleep at 7 no problem.  No meds last night.  then starting at 1250 every 1 or 2 sleep cycles he would call out or cry hard for a minute then right back to sleep.  He was up for the day at 7am happy.  I doubt he was awake all those times, but just having a really hard time through the transitions, for sure.   It was so odd.

He went down for his nap at 12 so we'll see what we get today.  It's a crap shoot.

Meg

[Mom to M&M]

Go Luke go!

Judy - I'm sorry to hear that. Is he still awake? Will he go down at all later? Will he stay awake in the car with something like a hard pretzel to chew on? Marisa LOVES those. My neice is just like that - even 5 minutes in the car would kill the rest of the day - and my sister had to drive her older son to pre-school every day - 15 minutes each - she had to do some crazy things to keep her awake!

Meg - Marisa has done that before - usually when sick or teething badly. Is he working on something like eye teeth or molars? Hope he naps well today.

Marisa fell asleep today at 11:25 - she woke at 6:15 (can't blame her, hot as heck in the apartment) and couldn't stay awake any longer. Really hope she goes at least 2 hours but we'll see.

[TDR'smom]

Meg,

Sometimes if Tyler has an extra "exciting" day with new activities, he will wake a lot at night and cry out, but go right back to sleep like PJ did. 

If she caught even a 5 min snooze the nap was shot!  How can that be?Huh

I don't know but it is driving me crazy.  He is still in there talking!!!  I can not go rest and take a break until I know he is asleep.  (Neurotic...I know!!!    )

Now he is thumping on his crib..like a drum!!!  GRRRRRR

[TDR'smom]

Karen,

I never tried a soft pretzel, but I'm sure he would love it.  I kept handing him his usual goldfish crackers, small hard pretzels and he would just crumble them in his hands, all over his car seat.  That reminds me that I have to go vacuum his car seat out.   AAAHHHHHH!!

Can you guys tell that he has been driving me nuts lately?  Not just the napping...but that is for another board.  Maybe the Discipline board over in the Toddler section. 

[Mom to M&M]

Or have a stash of new toys only for the car and rotate them weekly? Anything to keep his interest peaked and keep him awake?

[PeepersMom]

PJ rarely sleeps in the car, but this transition has me so worried that I put his window down for something to look at and give him cold water in his sippy cup.  With ice in it if we are out at 10 am!!  And I sing like crazy, reach back and scratch his head.......I still have his car seat backwards so, so he thinks that is funny - to look up and over at me.  But it makes it that much harder to get toys to him.

he is sleeping well this nap so far - we are at 1.5 and still going.  Phew

I do think he could be teething - during bath last night i could have sworn I felt a little incisor coming through.  Just the very tip rough edge - so just barely.  His teeth break through and push up SO slowly.  I was an idiot and forgot to give him motrin before sleep.  I swear I give that to him every night these days!  He loves it   

Well, needless to say, he slept well, but I was awake for more than a split second during those transitions.  Everyone I stay awake to make sure he is back to sleep.

Judy i can't relax until I know he is asleep - and for that matter I can't relax until he has made it past 1h20 min!! so these days I haven't done to much relaxing!  If he does make it past the second sleep cycle then i am rejoicing and giddy with delight.
 

[KellyC]

I sometimes give Zander a whole apple to hold (and attempt to eat!) in the car if I don't want him to fall asleep.  It seems to hold his interest 

Meg, Zander has done what you've described before too and I think it was whilst he was teething.  He doesn't even wake up but is very noisy in the same way you mention.

Zander was at nursery today and I sent him with the usual page full of instructions    They said he started to get tired late morning but they kept him busy and distracted rather than putting him down for a nap.  Lunch is at 12 and he didn't get to sleep until 1.10 when he was falling asleep on his carer    I don't suppose they can help this really as it must take some time to feed all the children in his room but it would definitely work better if they could get him down at 12.30/12.45 as at home.  He only slept for 1 hr 25 (they told me he'd had a good long nap and I was too scared to admit that I didn't think it was long enough!) and I've just put him to bed at 6.30 so hopefully he'll add the extra half an hour onto his night sleep (wishful thinking perhaps but I didn't want him being too tired at bedtime).  This morning I had to wake him at 7.20 but I could have left him until 7.45 before he has to get ready to leave.  Perhaps on nursery days I'll let him sleep longer knowing that he won't go down until later than usual and will sleep slightly less.  Let's just see what time he wakes tomorrow!

Kelly x

[Kate A]

I need some quick help with W2S.  She just went down at the 4 hour A time mark and I'm hoping for 2 hours.  That's dreaming    But I wanted to try W2S today and see if it will work.

When do i go in?  How much to wake them?  Thanks for the help

[katriona]

kate -- i'll pop in because you're online too, but i would hardly call myself a w2s expert. it normally works for theron if i go in at 20 minutes. he's in a dead sleep at this point. i move him arms and legs until he sighs in his sleep, or starts sucking on his thumb again. i remember kelly used to actually have to roll zander over, didn't you kelly? be very gentle with it, but even if you wake them too much it's not the end of the world -- i've been able to soothe theron back to sleep the couple of times that i've accidentally been too heavy-handed, and it's much easier than trying to soothe them totally into a second sleep cycle.

good luck!

[Kate A]

thanks katy - I'm going to watch today and then attempt after the weekend.  we're going out of town so no use getting into a pattern now.  thanks so much.

[KellyC]

Lol Katy, I've just PMd Kate about my rolling over!!  I agree if you accidentally wake them after 20 or 30 minutes they're much easier to soothe back to sleep - wish I hadn't found that out though!

K x

[PeepersMom]

Kelly I think they know that 1h25min isn't great, but if he woke happy they are happy with it.  They would have told you if he was grumpy, right?

Just gave PJ some motrin now!  and I will again before bed.  He had a nice nap - 2h25min.  I let him go today especially due to last night last few days.  If he stays up really late tonight then I will have learned my lesson, but I figure he is soooo sleep deprived after the last week of cold...  and he does tend to sleep a little more with teething so maybe that is it after all.

meg

[KellyC]

Meg - Zander's done almost 2.5 hours a couple of days this week and still over 12 hours at night.  I hope it works out well for you too!  Zander was on fine form when I collected him from nursery and they said he'd been happy all day which, let's face it, is the most important thing 

[Critter]

Luke slept for 1 hr 45 minutes.  I'll take it!

[shelliz]

Katy and Kate...

   Speaking of W2S....I have been doing it w/ Jess during each afternoon nap since we've begun making the transition.  Today I went in after 20 minutes. Then I went in two MORE times at the 20 minutes mark . Crazy? Maybe...but it's working. She has 10 more minutes to sleep before hitting the 2 hr mark!!!  During the 3rd w2s I did accidentally wake her too much and she cried for about 2 minutes but then fell back to sleep  .  Good luck gals!