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Worried about breastfeeding
« on: May 10, 2006, 10:04:35 am »
Hi everyone. I am about to give birth any day now and throughout my pregnancy, there has been one major thing on my mind... BREASTFEEDING  ???

With my 1st child, I started fine at the hospital, came home and on day 2, my LO basically screamed every 20 mins and would only quieten as soon as I would stick my boob in (excuse the punt). My breasts within the 1st 3 days/nights (at the hospital) and 2 days/nights at home were very sore/cracked and there was lots of feeling uncomfortable and bleeding. Obviously my angel didn't latch on properly and it just got worse and worse...

Night 3 and I was so scared of the same thing hapening that I went out and bought a pump and got into a habit of pumping milk and feeding her that way. I gave her the breast as soon as it healed a little but at the same time I pumped and I never became confident enough to stop pumping and exclusively breastfeeding as I got used to knowing that she was getting a "certain"amount via the bottle. She was still having my milk and I was just too paranoid to BF alone as I was not sure if she was having the right amount. To cut the story short, I pumped every 3-4 hrs throughout day and night and ended up doing so until she was around 6 months. This was around the time that I found out I fell pregnant AGAIN! (I was so sure that breastfeeding would be enough contraception - silly me!).... and I got so tired of doing it and at the same time I was tired (from being pregnant) and just started hating the whole experience. With lots of crying and feeling guilt, I stopped and my LO was on formula and we started solids.

NOW..... I am petrified of what is to come. I don't have enough confidence in myself and I know that I will be just as paranoid of not producing enough milk and the temptation will be there to start pumping. The problem this time is that I don't/won't have the time to pump every 3-4 hrs as I have a toddler (1yr, 1m), who is about to start walking and demands lots of my attention. I really don't want to give formula to the new bub as I will feel like a failure... and the pressure is there from family to breastfeed. I've already had comments (from those who knew) and had one family member recommend I start "brushing" my nipples with a toothbrush to "harden" them so that its easier for the baby to latch on.... is this even true or just an old wives tale?

Has anyone a similar experience and does BF get easier with 2nd and consecutive babies? Or does it just depend on the baby (latching on, etc...) or what?

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Re: Worried about breastfeeding
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2006, 10:53:32 am »
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You should be sooo proud of your self for feeding for 6 months! That's amazing! I had a similar experience with my first with t he cracked nipples. I remember when I was in hospital still my little boy was feeding and then he threw up. There was blood all in the milk vomit and the nurse came over because I was like 'Oh my God!' but she said Don't worry, that's just blood he has taken in off your bleeding nipples! I tried feeding for about 3 months but in the end just gave up. He would never latch on properly or open his mouth to latch on. When I became pregnant again I was the same as you, thinking about it all the time, will I be able to do feed, should I "prepare" my nipples. What I did was as soon as I got to the hospital I told any midwife who came near me about the problems I had with my first and that I wanted all the help they could give me to help me this time around. It went SO much better. I hardly got sore nipples and NO CRACKS!! I let the midwifes attach her for me for the first couple of days because someone told me that the baby needs to learn how to attach as well as us learning, so I figured I would let the midwives teach her and then I would watch and learn too.

With your next problem of not knowing when they have had enough again I can empathise! Emily began to have really short feeds whenshe was about 3 weeks old, I am talking no more than five minutes and she was done. I was so worried she wasn't getting enough I would sit for about the next 20 minutes trying to get her to go back on. I was also only feeding her every 4 hours as this is the routine I got so used to with my son on the bottle. I ended up going to a lactation consultant as I thought Emily was fussing and not getting enough. She told me to offer one side, let Emily drink. As soon as she starts to 'fuss' swap her to the other side. As soon as she starts to 'fuss' stop, feeds over. She said Emily fussing was her telling me she has had enough. The other thing the lactation consultant said was to forget about time and feed Emily when she was hungry. If the breast is offered the baby will drink when she is hungry and get just what she needs and in turn your body will learn to make just what your baby needs. It took a while for me to get used to this but breast feeding is going great and Emily is nearly 7 months.

Hope this helps, let me know if I can help any more. Good luck with your birth. (My second birth was fantastic, 1000 times better than my first!)

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Re: Worried about breastfeeding
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2006, 12:09:39 pm »
Congrats to you and yeah for all your hard work for your first.  And may I say what a cutie and head of hair!!!

You can do it this time and the first thing you have to do is not stress.....yup, easier said then done.

I would find a lactation consultant and use her until you are confident you have it!  It doesn't have to be painful.  I would "harden" your nipples.  I never did and I didn't have troubles. 

But its' all about the latch.

I think the last poster offered some wonderful advice.

Good luck.
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Re: Worried about breastfeeding
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2006, 13:16:39 pm »
The story of your first time round shows just what a determined lady you are. I bet all that drive and determination can be channelled towards getting your troops lined up and getting the information you need. One very simple point - if you were able to pump for all that time you clearly had nothing to worry about in terms of supply. Pumping is so much less efficient than a baby (one reason is because the hormone prolactin is not receiving stimulation from the 'wave' motion of the baby's tongue and mouth). You were certainly a milk -making success.
I would start by saying that all the nipple brushing in the world will not compensate for good latching advice. In fact from what I've read nipple 'preparation' is a bit of a myth.
You need to find out what resources are available to you in the hospital and ask for a lactation consultant - the worst hospital experiences I hear are when people get conflicting advice from lots of different people so I would ask people not to give advice unless you've asked for it and try and have one 'main' person who you develop a relationship with. I would also find out about groups, La Leche League, and otherwise and go while pregnant. LLL is a free resource. You and your toddler(s?) can see people breastfeeding and meet people for whom it is a happy and positive experience. Ask the mothers how they feed with a toddler around. I've heard of some mums who have a special box of toys that only comes out during nursing time or nursing time is the time the TV can go on (it might get you through the first few weeks).

Your big problem is obviously lack of confidence. You need to know more about breastfeeding so you know how it works and why it's worth it. It's not going to work if your motivation is pressure from other people or wanting to avoid feeling like a failure. You need to know why it's worth it. Read about health reasons, for you and your baby and calculate how much money you will save by not using formula - it may shock you!
I would recommend a book like 'The Womanly art of breastfeeding' by La Leche League. Dr Jack Newman has also written some stuff but I would warn that he's very open on his opinion of why formula is a bad thing. He oftens writes about 'why formula is bad' instead of focusing on why breastfeeding is good. You may or may not want to hear that.

Hopefully with some support now, in hospital and after and with some reading your confidence will improve. You know that physically your body can do it. The truth that is if you give birth, if you deliver the placenta successfully, if you have a breastfeed within the first hour after delivery if possible, if you drink enough water and eat and sleep reasonably well (I didn't do the sleep thing so much and I was fine!), if you have advice to check your latch, if you don't start a feeding schedule too soon and feed initially on demand then...
the chances of failing or not making enough milk are tiny. Obviously a very small group of women are unlucky but it is the rarity not the norm.
The human body is a clever thing. It is making this baby and getting the right amount of milk afterwards is something thousands and thousands of years of evolution have got right. Have faith in your clever body. You don't need a transparent bottle. Learn about the other ways of checking - identifying swallowing movement and sounds, checking nappies. Your reading or a conversation with an experienced mum or watching some breastfeeding could help with this. If you feed fairly frequently at the beginning, assuming your latch is fine, then that can actually help prevent nipple soreness. It's never the frequent feeding in itself that's the problem. The latch is clearly the key to everything - establishing your supply, nipple soreness, quality of milk and feed, spacing between feeds. If you see people breastfeeding keep in mind what a good latch looks like with a small baby (it does not look the same with an older baby).
Here's some video clips about latching to start you off, with that Dr Jack Newman bloke again:

http://www.thebirthden.com/Newman.html


Good Luck and have some faith like you have faith your nails will grow, your stomach will digest food, your eyes will work. A small group of people are unlucky to struggle with eyes, stomach, nails but the default position is everything working fine.

P.S If your family want to support ask them not to make comments but instead track down resources, books, groups and happily breastfeeding mothers. I would make a 'no-more comments please. I'm going to try this but comments aren't helping but this practical support might...' declaration.
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Re: Worried about breastfeeding
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2006, 13:25:13 pm »
Hugs to you!! My second labor was so much easier than first and BF has been easier this time. And a better supply also!! I used lanolin around hte clock for the first couple of weeks to  help with breast soreness, but a correct latch is key. Best of luck this time around.
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Re: Worried about breastfeeding
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2006, 23:20:34 pm »
Thank you everyone for your reply and support!  :)

I feel much better and I guess what I really need to work on is my self-esteem and be confident that my breasts know what they are doing and just wait until everyone establishes (which apparently takes 6 weeks).

When I went to the antenatal classes, the midwife told us that breastfeeding must be learnt by both the baby and the mother, etc... but I just kept thinking to myself that its impossible for the mother/baby to get something so natural so wrong and "how could anyone ever consider bottle feeding ..."

Little did I know and I think maybe thats where I made the 1st mistake. I didn't ask for help from the nurses at the hospital until it really started to hurt!. On top of that, I was one of those that got conflicting advise and everytime I would ask a nurse to show me "how to", it would be slightly different from what the previous nurse would show me. When we were ready to be discharged, I told my DH that I REALLY wanted to wait for the lactaction consultant (she was doing rounds with other mothers) but to be honest I didn't wait around for her because my MIL was there as well and I felt like such a failure, asking advise on something "so natural", especially in front of her. I could see that they were in a hurry to leave (parking downstairs, etc..., so we just left. I too used cream as soon as we got home cause thats when it hit me that I am obviously not doing something right cause it would be impossible for all the BF mothers to bear this kind of pain so such long periods of time. I called a lactation consultant to make an appoitment and because they were soooo overbooked, the nearest one I got was when Bella was about 4 weeks or so (by which stage, I got a hold of a pump and that's where the cycle began).

When I had a nurse come to visit me at home (as they do just after the baby is born)... the whole thing was really weird. She was really late to my appoitment (and obviously didn't want to be late to the ones made after me) and she just gave me the "theory"of good latching (you know where they say the baby must take the whole aeorla, etc...). All she did was just measure and took the weight of the baby, asked me how I was... the obvious stuff... and told me to just keep trying with the latching and if I had any problems to call the lact consultant.

I also want to be able to get home as soon as I give birth. I really didn't want to leave my LO in anyone else's care so I might not get the opportunity to see a lact consultant but this time around, I think I might actually call the clinic (the one I went to last time) and book myself in even before the baby is born (I hope this can be done) so that I am not waiting for 4 weeks like last time.

Thanks again for all your advise  ;D



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Re: Worried about breastfeeding
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2006, 02:14:42 am »
Hi Ladies....

I just wanted to thank you all Soooooooooooooooo much for your words of encouragment and let you know that although it has only been over 2 months, I am still breastfeeding and very successfully!!!!! There was a time of doubt in terms of milk supply, etc... but I just stuck to it and kept telling myself that supply is not the problem, etc.. as she has been putting on weight and is looking very healthy and like she is thriving very well! So, yeah... thanks again and my target it 3 months (which I am approaching very soon) and then it will be 6 months.... 9 months and then the 12 months is my ULTIMATE goal. WOW I will be EXTATIC if/when I get to the full  year... But 2 1/2 months is much better than my inital goal, which was 6 weeks!

Thank you and will let you know once I get to the 3-6 month mark!



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Re: Worried about breastfeeding
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2006, 04:47:11 am »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

That is wonderful news!!

Good for you both...  I know the long hours it has been taking you, but things are about to get much much easier from here on in!

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Re: Worried about breastfeeding
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2006, 09:51:58 am »
Wow, that's great!!  Well done!!  And you know you've got through the hardest part now... so keep reminding yourself that!

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Re: Worried about breastfeeding
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2006, 10:36:02 am »
I'm so glad to hear it!!!!!!! Yay!!!!!!!

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Re: Worried about breastfeeding
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2006, 02:30:52 am »
Such beautiful news!
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Re: Worried about breastfeeding
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2006, 20:28:41 pm »
Fabulous news!  Great job!
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Re: Worried about breastfeeding
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2006, 21:29:02 pm »
Yay, Mommy!   :D  Good for you!  By way of encouragement, I, too, set small goals for myself (although they didn't seem small at the time!).  Well, DS turns 1 in less than 2 weeks, & we're still at it.  You go!
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