14 months & staying up longer

[londongirl]

My daughter naps every day for about 1.5 hours, and this is anywhere between 10-12 or 12-2pm. Sometimes even a bit later. Lately i have been trying to get her to sleep at about 7pm, and she is just wide awake, playing, or doing a very good job of fighting sleep.  Yesterday she napped between 10.30am- 12pm and then didnt sleep till about 9pm. She was pretty irritable by 7pm, so i left her in the cot for about 10 mins to just see if she would settle but  when i got back she was in such a state she vomited everywhere!!  By the time i cleaned her up, she was wide awake and i had to wait awhile before and i ended up offering her more milk just to settle her, which know is a "no, no" but i just had to help induce the sleep. Today was better - she napped from 11.30am-1pm and then slept at 8am. I'd like to know how many hours other babies of this age stay awake from their nap to their night sleep.  Oh, and in case you are wondering, i try to take her to a toddler group every day ( today was was toddlers world at a local sports centre) and sometimes after dinner we go for a short walk before the bath, so i try to keep her occupied in the day.
thanks..

[Nikki~Nathanamp;Danielle]

My dd is almost 15mths and wakes around 6-6.30am, naps around 12.30pm-2pm, then bedtime at 7pm. Although tonight she fought it until 8pm for some reason - I think she was too worked up and excited and not enough of a wind down, so we needed to do WI/WO and dh ended up stroking her head until she fell asleep. What's your bedtime routine like?

I'm hesitant to suggest it, but since you left her to cry for 10mins with distressing results, I would absolutely work on being there for her at bedtime to not create any negative associations with bed and therefore causing more problems.

HTH

[notenoughshelfspace]

Before my sleeping issues ( see post)  my little one's routine ( she is 14 months as well) is wake up at 7:30ish, nap at 12-2:30 and then bedtime at 7:15.  Staying up till 9 does seem a bit late and I do not know if it the same for your little one but when mine is overtired she always ends up vomiting so perhaps a longer wind-down with an earlier bedtime would be better.

[Harrisonsmummy]

I would agree with the above. Try and push nap to 12pm/12.30pm and bedtime no more than 5 hours after wake-up from nap. I have found that when they are overtired they get a surge of adrenalin which keeps them going even longer, hence the problmes that you then get putting them to bed, and the apparent wakefulness when they should be asleep!

[imsmum]

If you look at the sticky ""what does your toddler's day look like"  you'll get a pretty good idea of the average A time after nap for a lo your age.  Most sleep books recommend bedtime of 4.5 hours after nap wakeup I guess with an actual sleeptime  .5 hours later. With my dd if she wasn't asleep 5.5 hours after nap wakeup she would take forever to go to sleep and/or wake in the night.  I would defintely recommend trying to push the nap back as the other ladies have suggested.

[londongirl]

thanks for all your advice.  my little one woke at 6.30am today, and then fell fast asleep at 9.30am-11am. Then i gave her lunch, and we went out for the afternoon. She had dinner at 4.30pm, and was asleep by 6.15pm. Thats early for me, but perhaps i can try to stretch it out till 7pm tomorrow. What i find hard is that she will only go to bed early if she has a MORNING nap.  If she naps after lunch, she never sleeps till at least 8 or 9. i guess im really going to have to work on the 7pm bedtime before she gets overtired.

[cookie cookie]

Hi. I'm having the exact same problem with my DD who is now 15 months. After reading through these posts I'm thinking that I'm keeping her up too long between nap and bed and missing her sleep window. Then she gets wound up and I can't get her to sleep until 9pm!! Tonight it was 9:15pm!!!  And for the last four nights she has made me stay in her room with her until she fell asleep... which she doesn't usually do. I'm getting worried!!  We have recently transitioned to one nap her day usually looks like this... she wakes around 7:30am, naps around 11:00am (sometimes for 1 1/2 hours, sometimes 3 hrs), then lately not asleep at bedtime until 9pm. I start trying windown and routine around 8:15 but she is still so wound up that it seems useless. Today she had a two and half hour nap until 2:30pm so I guess I should have started her bedtime routine around 7ish. Like you, I will really have to start working on the 7ish bedtime. It's so hard to do now that summer is here. Especially this week coming up as DH and I are on vacation and we have family coming to visit us for the week. I'm interested to know how you make out. I wonder what time your lo will wake up tomorrow morning after going to bed at 6:15pm. I might try early too as I noticed my DD sometimes is really tired around suppertime and I usually just say, well you can't go to bed at 6Pm!! Perhaps that's my problem!! Keep us posted on your progress. 

[Harrisonsmummy]

I think you both need to work to push the nap back to 12ish at least, then the rest will fall into place with less of a struggle. It is hard when they want to sleep early, but if you give them a snack at their normal nap time, then plenty of distraction they do adjust quite quickly. It took H about 2 weeks to be reasonably comfortable with a 12.30pm nap and we still have days where he wants to sleep at 11am but he normally makes it lunchtime, which gives a reasonable bedtime of 7.15/7.30pm.

[londongirl]

sydnees mum - just after i posted my DD woke up and was wide awake for 2 hours, and then slept peacefully till 7am this morning.  The whole 2 hours i didnt take her out of the room, i kept tapping her, and alternately walking out and then going back in after a while. I even managed to get DH to go in and out a few times ( thats an improvement in itself )  This has happened before when she has slept at 6pm, she has woken up in the middle and then stayed awake a few hours.
im really,really going to try a 7pm bedtime tonight.

[cookie cookie]

londongirl, sorry to hear she woke up . How did tonight go? Did you get her to bed around 7ish? I royally screwed up my DD today!!  I left work at noon to begin my week vacation (yippee!) and in my excitement we headed out shopping an hour away. She had a great day but fell asleep at 7 (right on schedule right?!!) but in the car on the way home. I'm a bad mommy!! I really should have headed home at suppertime. Instead we stayed and ate out at a nice restaurant. Anyway, when we got home near 8ish I tried to put her right to bed and it seemed like it was going to work as she played in her crib for about 30 minutes and played her music like she usually does to fall asleep and then all of a sudden she started freaking out. I went to check on her and she was leaning over her crib reaching for the window curtain saying "DDDDDD" ... Dora the Explorer is all over her window and she was trying to move the curtain to see Dora!!  Anyways, to make a long story short... I didn't get her to fall asleep until 9:45!!!! Completely my fault. I fear the rest of the week too as we have my family (DD's Grammie and Grampie) from far away coming to visit and they get here tomorrow and are renting a cottage about a 45 minute drive from here. They will expect us to spend lots of time at the cottage with them but I know it will screw up DD getting to bed at a decent hour. She will likely fall asleep on the way home each evening! Oh dear! When this week is over I really have to buckle down and get her to bed by 7ish. I plan on taking the playpen for her to fall asleep in all week when we're at the cottage so I will still try for 7ish but then we'll have to wake her to get her into the car and then home and pray she goes right back to sleep when we get home. Like Harrisonsmummy has suggested I'm going to try to push her nap time more around noon while I'm on vacation this week. I think that will help. I really hope your night went better than last night.