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Doesnt' want to nap... 17 months
« on: August 19, 2006, 18:00:47 pm »
Hi. DD is 17 months and four times in the last two weeks she is giving us trouble with naps. Today is one of them. She awoke just before 7am this morning and I put her down for her nap at noon. She just played and talked then started crying. I got her back up. We went for a drive to do a quick errand and I tried again at 1:30pm. She was falling asleep in the car. Well, it's now almost 3pm and she's been playing and talking in her crib since 1:30pm. I don't know why she isn't falling asleep as she was falling asleep in the car. I feel bad leaving her in her crib so long but I know she is tired and needs to sleep. She cries out every now and again but is mostly talking and playing. Anyone else experience this? She normally sleeps anywhere from one and a half to three hours each afternoon. I just don't know why she's doing this. I hate to let her fall asleep at this time of day as it will interfere with bedtime. She goes to sleep at 8pm and if she sleeps until three or four sometimes she won't go down by 8. And here it is 3 already and she hasn't slept yet!!! Any suggestions? Please help! Sydnee's Mom.
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Re: Doesnt' want to nap... 17 months
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2006, 18:15:58 pm »
I would give up with the nap today, but make sure you get her into bed very early to compensate!

Maybe you need to push nap back just a bit in the morning to 12.30pm. When she does nap at 12pm does she drop off quickly or chatter to herself for a while etc? How does she normally respond to being overtired - maybe by 1.30pm she had gone past it?!

They do seem to sometimes go through these funny phases - especially when teething etc - so hang in there, and just get the early nights in if she doesn't sleep in the day.

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Re: Doesnt' want to nap... 17 months
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2006, 18:29:21 pm »
Hi Harrisonsmummy! Thanks for responding. I feel like I'm ready to explode. Just before your post DD started to cry. I waited a few minutes but it got harder so I went in. She'd dropped her blankie on the floor. I gave it to her, told her to sleep and left. She cried hard for a few minutes but then stopped. Now it sounds as if she is finally on her way to sleep. I was going to get her up and after reading your post I'm thinking I should but she's soooo tired and she finally just settled. I'm nervous what will happen tonight at bedtime now. I can't believe she took this long to go to sleep!! I usually put her to bed around the five hour mark from her morning wake but perhaps I should move it to 5 1/2??? I think making her wait until 1:30 made her overtired. This is the fourth time we've gone through this latley and I'm getting frustrated to say the least. I feel so consumed by trying to get her to sleep that I can't get anything else accomplished. Normally at nap time she used to go right in and settle right down but lately she is playing/babbling a lot. I'm sitting here right now thinking great... I spent all afternoon waiting for her to sleep but now I want her awake because it's going to mean bedtime will be messed up. I don't know what to do.  :-\
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Re: Doesnt' want to nap... 17 months
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2006, 20:42:56 pm »
hi!

ok, what a coincidence.  i was just coming here to post a similar question/problem! 

my dd is 20 months.  she's always been the type to go to sleep instantly when we put her down.  but over the past couple of weeks, we've had a few weird naptimes.  we put her down for nap at the usual time (12:30).  she will rustle around for a few mins, then start crying for me.  i give her a chance to settle herself, but i usually know that the chance of that actually happening is slim to none!  ::)  so when i go in there, she is always standing up and has thrown her blankie over the side. 

we've tried everything.  we tried reading her more stories and then putting her back down.  i've tried laying on the floor in her room.  today i got desperate and took her for a drive in the car to get her to sleep.  then once she was asleep, i brought her back up to her crib.  she's still sleeping now.

i have no idea what the problem is.  she seems genuinely tired at 12:30 (sometimes even before that).  this just started out of the blue and i have no idea how to handle it.  anyway, i didn't mean to take over your post, but maybe we can put our heads together to figure this out.   :-\

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Re: Doesnt' want to nap... 17 months
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2006, 23:33:23 pm »
Hi Lindsey,

I'm not sure I can figure anything out! Just when I think we've got it figured out, she changes!  ::) She ended up sleeping until 4:30 today. I woke her up then. She was very cranky at me but I couldn't let her sleep any longer or she'd be up all night. Anyway, we had supper and spent a quiet evening indoors. I put her to bed at her normal 8pm bedtime. It is now 8:20pm and she is still awake playing her music. She went into her crib no problem though and seemed ready. I'm hoping she'll be asleep soon. I've been thinking all evening and I'm actually thinking that the problem might be that the five hour mark from wakeup might be the problem. When she was younger just a few months ago she had such a hard time staying awake in the morning. She'd always want to go to sleep after 2 1/2 to 3 hours then stay up and skip afternoon nap. That was when she was on two naps. Since we've transitioned to one nap we've been pushing her to stay up in the morning until lunch time. I might try tomorrow to put her down after four hours from awake time to see if that helps any. She seems able to get through the afternoons easier than mornings for some reason. Just like Mommy and Daddy, she's not a morning person! When I read your post about your DD seeming genuinely tired at 12:30 sometimes earlier it got me thinking that my DD seems genuinely tired earlier than noon too and that just might be the problem. The only part I really can't seem to understand is why some days she settles no problem at the five hour mark??? ??? Anyway, I'll post our progress after tomorrow's nap. If you have any breakthrough's, please post!
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Re: Doesnt' want to nap... 17 months
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2006, 23:54:38 pm »
She fell asleep at 8:30pm tonight! Yippee!  ;D I was really worried since she'd slept so late in the afternoon. I almost thought of a later bedtime but glad I kept to our normal bedtime.
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Re: Doesnt' want to nap... 17 months
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2006, 02:18:31 am »
oh i am so glad she fell asleep at a decent time.  that is great.

you know, my dd always seems tired at the 9-10 am mark.  REALLY tired.  like so tired that i avoid driving with her in the car at that time because she will fall asleep.  we are still sort of transitioning out of 2 naps, so i think that is why she is still tired at that time.  if i do let her sleep then though, she will not have an afternoon nap.  so i have to push her to stay awake til 12 or 12:30.  maybe it is overtiredness that is causing the nap troubles, i don't know.

the worst part for me is that dd is crying.  i guess i would stress less if she were just babbling to herself, but she seems really upset.  i don't know what to do.  this is a hard age, where they are able to know what they want/need but can't express it, which makes them more upset. 

let me know how it goes.  i'm praying for an uneventful bedtime tonite.

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Re: Doesnt' want to nap... 17 months
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2006, 00:15:08 am »
Hi. Well today we put DD down for her nap at four hours after morning wakeup and she went in without any trouble and babbled for about 30 min then went to sleep for 2 1/2 hours. She went to bed tonight at her normal 8pm bedtime and did cry when I put her in. I'm not sure why she was crying as we did our normal routine. I went back in once to reassure her but then I left. She cried again but for under five minutes and most of it was whining so I left her. I hate it when she does that. It makes me feel bad. Anyway, she went to sleep after a few minutes so I guess she was okay. I understand you stressing when she cries. I'm the same way. It's very hard but I've learned that if I leave her alone she will settle and go to sleep. I will not let her cio though. I always go in to reassure her but I wait as long as I can to see if she will settle. She usually will stop crying/whining by five minutes and I can deal with that. Anything more than that and I go in. They are so difficult when they cannot talk to us! We're back to work tomorrow, vacation's over :(. My mother sits for us so I'm going to tell her to put her for her nap tommorrow at the four hour mark again and to continue that for the week to see if things will get better. Today was great. She was up at 8am, went for nap at noon, fell asleep by 12:30, slept until 3 and went to bed at 8 and was asleep by 8:30. If all days could be like that I'd stop stressing so much ;). Hope your day went well. I'll keep you posted if moving her nap back to the four hour mark continues to be helpful.
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Re: Doesnt' want to nap... 17 months
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2006, 02:00:35 am »
i'm glad your day went well.  :D

ours...not so good.  we ended up having to drive her around in the car again to get her to fall asleep for nap.  she just kept crying and crying.  i really don't know what to do.  i guess i can try to put her down earlier and see what happens.  if that doesn't work, i will try putting her down much later, like at 2.  today, at her normal naptime, she was happily playing, so maybe she needs  a later bedtime  ??? 

i am confused.  i hope we can both get this worked out soon!

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Re: Doesnt' want to nap... 17 months
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2006, 20:45:50 pm »
oh my gosh, my 17 month old is doing the exact same thing!!!!  and its driving me crazy, she refused her morning nap  today, she still usually takes at least an hour in the morning..and then an hour and a halk in the afternoon...today so far she is refusing them both:(...and lately when she goes to bed which is anywhere between 7:30 and 8pm she stays awake in her crib till 9pm or later...i don't know whats going on, i can tell she is tired but she just fights it so much and then is double crabby.  I don't know what to do?
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Re: Doesnt' want to nap... 17 months
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2006, 20:57:05 pm »
jennc123-sounds like your lo is transitioning from 2 to 1 nap?  if so, check out this thread...

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=59266.0;topicseen

well i kept gianna up til 1:30 today instead of 12:30 and she went down no problem.  let's hope that moving the nap later will help!

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Re: Doesnt' want to nap... 17 months
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2006, 01:07:13 am »
Glad today went better for you. Let me know if that helps the next few days. I tried the other way... moving nap earlier yesterday and it helped. Today I was going to do it earlier but it actually ended up being at the five hour mark from wake up and she did fine. She only slept 1 1/2 hours today though so I put her down a bit earlier tonight thinking she'd be super tired as she usually naps two to three hours. But she still babbled and played for 30 min before falling asleep. How long will Gianna sleep for nap? Will putting her to bed at 1:30 interfere with bedtime? That's what I was concerned about. I thought if she goes at 1:30 or later it would interfere with her bedtime. But I guess I'd just have to wake her up at a reasonable time. Geez this seems confusing when it shouldn't be!!  :-\ Does your lo usually show any signs of being ready for nap? I seem to be following the clock more than her signs now that she's older which is not the BW way but I find the signs hard to see these days. I'm wondering if I should try keeping her up later like you are to see if that makes it better. I don't understand why she plays for so long before falling asleep. She used to just go in and go right to sleep but now it seems to take forever like she's not really tired enough. Anyway, I'll be testing her for the next week or so to see what seems to work best.

Jennc123, I agree with Gigismom. Sounds like your lo might possibly be ready for one nap. We were having that trouble a couple or months ago so we transitioned to one nap and it really helped a lot.
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Re: Doesnt' want to nap... 17 months
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2006, 03:59:29 am »
gianna's nap lengths vary.  it's usually about an hour and a half...although there have been some as short as 30 mins and some as long as 3 hours!  :o 

this was gianna's old schedule:

6-7 wake up
12:30-2 ish nap
8 bed

today we are looking more like this:

7 wake up
1:30-3 nap
8:30 bed

and i am going to try to keep this schedule up and maybe even push nap and bedtime a bit later because in a few weeks we will be switching our clocks back an hour for daylight savings.

gianna sometimes shows signs of being tired, but we follow the clock mostly.  i think at a certain age, their sleep cues change (or disappear).  i read somewhere once that if you want to find the tiredest toddler in a room full of toddlers, find the one who is acting the craziest and being the loudest.  (well, it was worded better than that, but you get my point!)  i think that is true.  it seems like as she gets older, she fights sleep by getting more wild and active. 

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Re: Doesnt' want to nap... 17 months
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2006, 01:11:34 am »
Hi. Today she went for nap at the five hour from wakeup mark. Played in her crib a bit but not too long and slept for 1 1/2 hours. Tonight we went out for a walk in her stroller and to the park and didn't get home until 8:15 which is past bedtime it was 9:00 by the time I got her into her crib which was 6 hours from her wake up time. She went right in and settled right to sleep. Not a peep from her. Now I'm thinking maybe she isn't tired enough at the five hour mark sometimes maybe I do need to stretch it closer to six. Poor baby went at the four hour mark the other day. I'm still confused which was to go but she still seems to be doing pretty good these last few days.
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Re: Doesnt' want to nap... 17 months
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2006, 01:43:05 am »
today gianna woke at 7:45, i put her for a nap at 1:15.  so it was 5.5 hours til the nap.  we had been driving in the car around 11 and she was totally falling asleep, so i didn't know if she was going to make it.  but she did.  and when i put her down, she started crying.  ::)  so i had to go in a few times and lay her back down.  but she was asleep within 10-15 mins.  i woke her after 1 hr 45 mins just to keep a decent bedtime.

this is a hard age isn't it?  they know what they want but can't say it...and there is just no reasoning with them at all!  i keep telling myself that sleeping will get better once her vocabulary and comprehension gets better.  (please god!)

anyway, i'm glad your day went well too!