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Sulking at nappy change time
« on: September 18, 2006, 20:12:37 pm »
Is it normal for (a nearly) 1 year old to take tantrums when I lie him down to get a nappy changed??  I though at first he had a sore bum, however its becoming more and more frequent....

Does he want to be other exciting things rather than getting his bum cleaned?   I have tried offering him a toy for disctraction...

....anyone have any other ideas?
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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2006, 20:40:12 pm »
Hi Lauren,

I hope it is normal and also will pass!  We have been dealing with this for almost 2 months now.  It is frustrating!  The odd time, when he has just woke up for e.g, that it is still pleasurable.

I sing a little song I made up, so he knows it is time, so it is a singal.

I speak nicely and explain what I am doing.

I count to 10 and say it will be over faster if you cooperate.

We give toys, books, remotes, mobiles anything to distract.

I have also resorted to putting nappy on standing up!

Sometimes it is a 2 man job.

Putting on trousers is also bloody murder around here lately.

Phew, I'm tired just thinking of it.

I offer some ((HUGS)) I need some too  :(.

It is very annoying because usually he is such an agreeable, happy chappy, so I get so angry (inside and hide it with a smile, well, I try  ::) )

Hope others have some tips.

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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2006, 21:46:39 pm »
It's so tiresome isn't it ::) I remember with DD it was the same but she was a wee thing and easier to contain. DS is v strong and I cannot physically hold him. Sometimes a distraction works for about 10 seconds but then it's game over and on to the next angry struggle. I do nappies standing up where I can but when it's a dirty nappy my heart sinks... >:(

I can only hope this phase ( which has been going on for months!) will pass... 
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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2006, 21:54:56 pm »
I can give {{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}} but that's about it. Sorry, it doesn't get any better. In fact they find even more ways to drive you up the wall when you want to change a nappy. Things I do that (sometimes ;)) work:

- give him his own wipe and ask him to wipe his own winky. He's getting quite good, finds it funny and it buys me 30 seconds :)

- I've put some animal pictures up on the wall where we do it. I get him to 'talk' (well, ykwim) to them.

- I've started to use the Little Walkers (Huggies, I think). They're a bit like pull-ups, and easier to get on than nappies.

- once he's wiped, he can stand up, but I make sure it's in a place where he can't run away. This means that trousers are easier to put on - once you've lifted one leg, he can't kick the other leg off or he'll fall over (b/c he's standing on it).

- give him his dummy :-[ :-[. He only has it for sleep, so it really helps to calm him.

- when she's here, make my mother do it ;) :)
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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2006, 22:53:05 pm »
LOL Charlie's Mummy, I always get my Mum to do it too.

Thanks for the advice.

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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2006, 04:33:14 am »
Welcome to Todderhood Catherine has been doing this for months now. We stopped using the change table as she fussed so much she fell off ::)Changing her clothes isn't too bad but nappy time is especially at the moment as she has had bad nappy rash due to teething. ***Hugs***
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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2006, 04:55:01 am »
when dd1 started this it did not stop until just recently, she is toilet trained, is this a great incentive to toilet train early, you have been given great advise, distraction, distraction, distraction, let him have something that is normally forbidden and change that thing frequently, oh and don't forget the standing nappy
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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2006, 05:22:40 am »
Thank you everyone for you great replies, I will definitely have to try some of this  :D

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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2006, 19:39:20 pm »
We have the same struggle and clothing...holy cow, I'm tempted to let her just go naked.  She cries the biggest, slopiest, most pathetic tears when we try to change her clothes!  You think we were actually hurting her or something! 

We have little toys that we change frequently or will pop a bottle or paci in her mouth.  If it gets really bad, I give her my cell phone.  It works almost every time.

I guess I'd better practice the stand-up change...last time the leg seam went right up her crack!
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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2006, 20:08:59 pm »
We're going through this too, sometimes getting him to hold the cream pot or the wipes works but sometimes its like you said, its a 2 man job. i seem to have mastered the standing and crawling nappy change, think we'll try the pull ups soon.

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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2006, 20:28:48 pm »
My stepdaughter has this problem with her son who is 16 months old.  My dh went to change his nappy one afternoon and his little grandson was no bother - h just asked him nicely to do things - would you lie down please, could you hold the cream, that kind of thing.
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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2006, 12:07:53 pm »
I am going through it as well. But whats strange is that as soon as dh walks in, she is all calm and smiles and tends to let me change her without a fuss. I tried giving her cream but she just wants to eat it and anything else I put in her hand, she just throws away  ::). I hope this is just a phase and I can't wait for it to pass. Mum told me the other day to just get rid of the nappies and toilet train her 100% (including nights). Easier said than done though. Although she uses the potty frequently during the day, she is far from being toilet trained and we are renting, so can you imagine me running after her all day just to catch a wee/poo (with a 4mo as well). Even when she gives me the chance to put the damn nappy on, the minute she stands up, she reaches for her nappy and starts unstrapping them off  ::).
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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2006, 12:03:44 pm »
Glad to read this thread...Andy is the same!!!  I've tried everything to distract him.  The latest is giving him an old tube of nappy cream.  He opens it up...put a bit on his finger...then put it on his winky...he has at least 3 goes before I am done...and it is so cute!!!

Good luck...Andy's mum.
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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2006, 12:50:21 pm »
Looks like it's perfectly normal Lauren  :P

I tried using pull-ups but it wasn't much easier.  I usually end up giving something to Zander to hold which I wouldn't usually let him have but that doesn't stop him wanting to roll onto his front with it.  He's even worse at nursery and screams his head off when they take him out of the playroom - I think he's just cross that he's being taken away from all the toys!

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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2006, 16:31:45 pm »
I guess I will hop on the bandwagon here, too.  I was going to start a thread asking for new ideas.  This has been a problem with PJ since he learned to roll over and he only gotten worse since he has gotten more mobile.  Every diaper change has become a horror show.  Beet red face, tears streaming down, arching back, rolling over OH MY GoD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For short periods of time I can distract him with a book or a funny face or making funny noises.  But certainly not long enough to even wipe his bottom clean. 

I was cracking up at asking PJ to wipe his own 'junk'  how absolutely adorable.

I am hoping that the means he will want to learn to use the potty sooner if he hate the diaper so much.

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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2006, 16:39:00 pm »
Meg,

I can totally relate.  My ds screams bloody murder through the entire diaper change as I am pinning him down with all my might.  :-[ :-[  If DH is home, he does the diaper changing because Tyler will lie still for him.  :-\ :-\

I also try to give him something to play with.  Try to give PJ a "special" or "unique" toy so that it distracts him.  Even if it is something normally "forbidden"  :-[ :-[ :-[.

Sometimes I give ds my cell phone or a remote control. 

Now I am asking him...."Where does your diaper go??"  And I show him the diaper...1 in 10 times he will actually lie down and try to put the diaper on.  It is better than fighting with him 10 out of 10 times...  :-\ :-\ :-\

GOOD LUCK and know that it is completely normal.  Even if it is frustrating!!!
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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2006, 17:00:30 pm »
Same trouble here!  Much better for DH, but I change most of the diapers.  I found that warnings and asking nicely are helping.  Lots of praise after.  And changing in the crib as a last result as she can't get too far!   
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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2006, 17:37:09 pm »
Sometimes giving DD a diaper will distract her; and sometimes if I sing and make zerberts on her belly and kiss her face, she thinks it's a game and will at least lay down and not roll or crawl away.
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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2006, 21:39:04 pm »
Lauren,

Thomas is going through exactly the same thing at the moment.

The mornings are the funniest though - I will get his nappy out and pull his mat out from under the chair, and the runs over to the door, when I come up behind him, he goes onto all fours, stands on his head and thinks that I cannot see him.  When I pick him up he is in fits of laughter, but when we lay him down the screaming starts  :-\

We have resorted to using pull up nappies on occasions and they have worked wonders.

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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2006, 21:43:18 pm »
Lay them across your knee on the sofa and just do it as quickly as you can, put a towel over your knee if you suspect a poo.  It's the only way I can manage when they crawl and wriggle, they can't move so easily and it's much easier.  It will take practice but it definitely works for all of them,  I have never failed.  My friend has triplets and a younger daughter and she told me that's what she did.
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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2006, 01:05:22 am »
 :D It's so amazing how this affects a ton of people.  I have the same issue with ds and I do the same things you all do....give distracting things or forbidden things to him while we are changing his diaper, sing songs, make funny faces, etc..etc...it's a pain with the clothes too.

Wow...ditto to everything you all said.
Thanks for asking this question and now I know I am not the only one!
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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2006, 16:23:06 pm »
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The mornings are the funniest though - I will get his nappy out and pull his mat out from under the chair, and the runs over to the door, when I come up behind him, he goes onto all fours, stands on his head and thinks that I cannot see him.


LOL!!!  That is kind of cute!!!   :) :)
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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2006, 12:20:17 pm »
Sometimes when it is bath time and DS is in an agreeable mood, I give him the changing mat to hold and to lay in the bathroom, then he lays on it and let me clean his bum. It helps if we have taken the clothes off together beforehand too. And no, he's not in a helpful mood all the time !
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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2006, 21:07:19 pm »
Hi Lauren
we've had this bigtime with our 10mth DD for a while now and here's what we've found works, or at least makes it less traumatic - giving her plenty of things to fiddle about with (like a large basket with spare vests and sleepsuits etc), letting her stand up to pull her musical rabbit mobile (and getting that nappy off/wiped/clean one on double quick whilst she's doing it), learning to put the nappy on her whilst sitting down - basically anything that distracts her and means that you're not making her lie on her back, so I often finish off tricky things like tights or trousers by sitting her on my knee afterwards. I also 'fly' her onto the change table to make her laugh before starting so she's not tense or anticipating a tussle.
We really find that working round her imperative need to be mobile and not on her back, took the traumatic fight out of things and helped us to feel less frustrated by it - yes, its much slower these days but she also is cooperating more by things like helping to put her arms into her sleeves etc and we praise her up loads for it.
Hope this helps and I guess it's good practice for some of those toddler territory issues to come....
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Re: Sulking at nappy change time
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2006, 21:18:09 pm »
Please try to lay them across your knee, it really is much easier.  Sit on the sofa and put their bum across your lap so that their head can rest on the sofa (a little upside down, I know).  I childmind a little boy and his mother has awful trouble, he squirms about the floor and screams and cries for her and others in her family, but I have no problems, so I showed his mum what I do and she says that it is much better now. 
My mum had nine children and said that this is the only way that she could change them and my friend has triplets and she did the same for hers.  A tried and tested method!!
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