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new to this - just starting - and a total mess
« on: November 05, 2006, 01:20:39 am »
Hello - sorry to have a pathetic first post.

New, first time mom to Eliana, who is 4 weeks old today- until today we have had no idea how to get a schedule.  I have started to read the book and will implement the EASY.

I have some questions about my baby though and some of her behaviors and hoping that you can help me understand her and her needs.

She is SO good when we are out - sleeps like a dream in her carseat and when in public.  During the day at home I cannot settle her into a nap - she will sleep for about 10-15 mins and then fuss until she cries.  I have to pick her up to soothe her and this is a pattern that does not stop.

I am BF but have to supplement because I have a terrible milk supply and she is always hungy after a feed.  I can never pump more than ounce or two both breasts combined when i pump.

At night she fights sleep.  She will almost fall asleep or fall asleep for a few minutes and then abruptly wake up like she is afraid she is missing something.  She cries and i have to soothe her by rocking and this can go on for several hours until she finally falls asleep - then we have about 3 hours until next feed and then the same soothing process.  In addition she also makes these very loud noises all night.

PLEASE, any advice or suggestions!  I know that i need to get her on a 3 hour easy schedule and I will start tmrw but i was wondering about how to understand my baby.

Thank you!

Stacy, mom to Eliana Sadie

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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2006, 01:48:06 am »
in my experience, when i was nursing (I had a low milk supply also) LO ate every 2 hours for the first month and then 2.5 hours until about 7 or 8 weeks.  So if LO seems hungry before 3 hours don't worry about feeding her.  3 hours may work but i just wanted to tell you that with a month old who's nursing, she may not be able to make it 3 hours.

i noticed my LO would jolt awake after going down if she was overtired or if i rocked her until she was completely asleep. getting her on a good routine will help a lot with the overtiredness.  since she's so young, you'll need to help her learn to sleep.  it gets easier for her as she gets older but if it seems difficult now, just know it's ok to intervene and help her until she learns how to settle herself.

have you found some sample routines on this board to help? 

are you able to soothe her while she's still in her crib?

she may also have her days and nights mixed up a bit if she sleeps ok while out during the day. 

have you tried having her sleep in a bassinet - something a little smaller than a crib?  my LO seemed to get freaked by all that space in the crib.

also, do you swaddle?

also - your post is not pathetic at all.  i've been doing this for months now and i'm always asking questions.  babies are super confusing.  plus they change so fast and it's hard to keep up.  i'll think i have addison and her routine figured out and then she changes. 

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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2006, 20:04:25 pm »
Hi Stacy,

Welcome to the boards.

Hugs, I am sorry to hear that you are having such a tough time.

Melissa has given you some great advice  ;D I am going to attach few links for you to have a look at to help you get started with your EASY routine.

The below links are from our FAQ's board, but will help you get started

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=52283.0 - Know your baby.

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=62100.0

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=63243.0

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=63534.0

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=65842.0

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=63275.0

HTH - Please keep us posted and let us know how you get on.

Paula x

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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2006, 20:54:43 pm »
hi and thank you for the responses!  we had some small successes already with just starting last night.  We started to cluster feed at 5, had a bath, another feed and down at 7pm.  Dream feed at 10pm and she slept until 1 am.  She fed and was challenging for the next 2 hours, she finally fell asleep until 7.  We woke up fed and have been following an ideal 3 hour EASY!!!  I absolutley cannot believe it.

I will keep you posted.  Also what do I do when I cannot get her back down after a nightitme feed?  Thank you so much!

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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2006, 21:01:28 pm »
Stacy,

That is great news about getting started so well.

I would try and keep the middle of the night feed as quiet and dark as possible and once the feed is over, put straight back to bed.  It may take her a few days to get used to it, but it will definitely work.

Please keep us posted on how you get on.

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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2006, 01:11:20 am »
I have a new baby - bless her little heart - this new clueless mom was WAY overstimulating her LO!  I am so grateful for the book and this support - i will keep you posted on my night but i have to say this day was the best baby day yet and she went down like a dream.  Please cross your fingers this continues for me. (it is 8:12 here i put her doen 30 minutes ago and if this was a usual night for us she would have been screaming by now 3x over and NO PEEP from her!)  I hope i do as well with dream feed and the rest of the night.

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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2006, 01:27:29 am »
that's wonderful to hear.  i was/am clueless.  i see friends who haven't read BW and their LOs seem to be overstimulated a lot.  It's just something you don't think about. 
There are a lot of things to learn but having a good routine helps out so much, even when things are hard (like teething or colic or rolling over).

have a great night. 
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2006, 16:23:38 pm »
so.......last night went like this:   

lo woke up at wide awake screaming at 9:45 pm - i tried s/p and soothing her back to sleep - she would have none of it.  So we did the feed and eventually i got her back to sleep and she slept until 2pm - DH fed her a bottle and she slept until 4:45, i got up BF her and she slept until 6:45 where we started our day BF and activity, I tried shortly after to sleep (because of her cues - yawning) and that was a disaster as well.  SO we got up and had a feed (BF), changed her and put her in a seat while i showered then she was hungry again - so i gave her a bottle and now she sleeps.......this is NOT the ideal day like yesterday....

will try to adhere to the schedule when she wakes from this sleep.

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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2006, 20:04:39 pm »
Your routine can take a few days to implement and for things to work out.

You say your lo woke at 9:45 - before the dreamfeed - did you clusterfeed before you went to bed?

Stick to the EASY routine as best you can - not all days are going to be perfect, but one the routine is implemented, your day will be so much easier.

Keep us posted on how you are getting on

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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2006, 23:14:46 pm »
hi

yes - i did cluster feed, but no bath last night.  our ped recommends bathin 2 x per week for our LO....

i am plugging away.

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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2006, 20:39:57 pm »
Keep us posted on how you get on.

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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2006, 16:25:58 pm »
this is just not happening for us.

let me outline some of the issues...

firstly at night we do the cluster feeds, did a bath and the last feed and she woke up every 10 minutes until 11pm....then i did the dream feed at midnight but i could not fall back asleep after sleeping for about 30 minutes.  She then had a pretty good night...

I cannot get the hang of E - A - S, she wants to A, E, S...and since i am BF and supplementing it always seems she is satisfied for a short time after BF but then is hungry very quickly.  I might have to just pump and supplement because trying to gauge if she is satiated after BF is not working and it depresses me becaue i love BFing.

Is 5 weeks just to young to expect results on trying to get a schedule down?

i am exhausted and so frustrted.

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« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2006, 16:43:27 pm »
i'm going to butt in again. 

stacy - i'm so sorry.  addison ate every 2 hours at 5 weeks.  all day long.  so i understand how hard this is right now.  since i was nursing and her father was working, i was the only one who got up at night.  it was exhausting.  i promise you this gets a lot better.  your DD is so tiny and needs a lot from you.  as she gets older, she'll need a little less (which actually is a bummer when it happens  :'()

this is a really crazy time because DD is very tiny and needs a lot of help and you are just starting the routine.  it can take time.  addison will be 9 months this week and i'm still working on her routine.  we have to adjust all the time and i have to ask questions all the time. 

what is DD's routine right now?  like when does she wake?  how long is she up?  etc.
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« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2006, 19:21:57 pm »
we have yet to get a confirmed wake up - if i i wake her her up at 7 to start the day she is so drowsy that i cant get her to eat or stay awake - i think i have to wait for now until she wakes up ans start from that time - at least for now.

she is not good about eat/activity and then back to sleep, sometimes we eat and she is changed, etc usually in the morning i put her chair and take a quick shower and then try to soothe her to sleep

where she sleeps for like 20 Min's - wakes up hungry

and then the other part of the day that is so challenging is putting her to sleep - she wakes up every 10 Min's for like 2 hours.  i know these are classic sign of overstimulation but i am keeping her home all day for the past week to try and incorporate a schedule.

when i do get her to nap she sleeps forever and sometimes i have the most challenging time to wake her.

Its just so confusing.


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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2006, 19:55:00 pm »
Stacy,

Have you thought about doing a yield to see what your supply is like?

If your lo is wanting to feed every 2 hours, then try and do a 2 hour EASY, this way she may be getting the calories she is looking for, and still sleeping so she is not getting over stimulated.

I do agree, that the fact that you are battling to get her to sleep at night is because of her being overtired.

I would not wake her in the morning just yet, not until you are settled into a good routine.

HTH

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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2006, 20:02:10 pm »
Hi there,

Just thought you'd like to know that babies don't do much other than sleep for the first 6 weeks. It's normal to be tough to put her on a routine right now.  I think it's great you're going through the motions but she won't really start to "get" it until the 6 week mark.

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« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2006, 19:33:01 pm »
hi stacy just want to wish you all the best. my dd is 10 weeks now and i went through very similar problems to you at that stage. all i can say is the advice you have been given her about 2hr easy etc is worth trying, it worked for me. i was a mess some days and these message boards were a saviour. best of luck :-*
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« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2006, 19:46:25 pm »
Stacy,

How are a things going?

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« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2006, 23:52:06 pm »
well...last night was good - went down no issues at 8 - dream feed at 11 and then another feed at 3 and 6 - but we are still not really able to follow the easy during the day - we try but its hit and miss....i did a yield - i think at best i have 3 oz both breasts - i have decided to bf during the day and supplement but only formula at night and i will pump in the middle of the night too.  i hope that the amount of BM that I am able to supply is benefiting her - i think in total all day she may get 6 oz's and that includes the 3 that i have pumped (from 2 pumping sessions) - last night in the middle of the night i was able to pump 2 oz so that is why i think i yield 3.

My days are feed, and then almost immediate she wants to sleep but then only for about 20 minutes and then activity, feed, sleep.....so i know its not perfect but we are still going to plug away.

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« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2006, 20:20:16 pm »
I am going to ask one of the BF mods to have a look at your post and see if they can give you some more advice.

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« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2006, 20:38:05 pm »
Hi eliana, is there a reason why your pead would recommend a bath x2 week?... just to say i have bathed my lo every night since he was born.  The reason for this is it gives him a lovely routine before bed and my hubbie loves getting involved.  The other thing is it really distracted fin if he was having a meltdown.  some top tips tho is when you put your lo in the bath gently put his feet in first so he knows whats coming. We use one of these plastic supports so your hands are free and he will also feel 'safe' lastly, put a flannel/washcloth  or hand over his tummy and keep sponging warm water over, this also gives them the feeling of being safe.  i hadn't started EASY straight away but i did do this strict bedtime routine and Fin is great with it then we worked on the other aspects of his day. It would also relax fin 'coz we just do wind down as soon as he gets in the bath. Things are by no means perfect but we have a nice end to the day. 

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« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2006, 20:47:18 pm »
Hi!  My little wonder is 9 weeks old.  The first few weeks was rough trying to figure out a schedule. I must say, I have an angel baby.  However, some days he is not that way.  I was told not to bath him more than 2x a week as well.  Well, I think that is .  My baby LOVES the bath. Once he was having a particularly fussy evening and I had cluster fed till my boobs were raw, so I decided to give him a bath.  He played in the bath for 30min and loved it.  It tires him out.  He usually falls asleep for the next 7 hours within 30 min of the bath.  I have to swaddle him and rock him and then he is out.  So, I don't think having a bath every evening is bad for them. I am religious with it now.  We are living in an RV right now as we save for a house. So, schedules,etc, are tough due to a serious lack of space.  I agree that you need to follow your babies' clues.  Really pay attention and they will let you know what they need.  Ultimately, they have a dirty bum, they have gas, or they are hungry.  I just did those cycles and it eventually worked out.  However, it does seem like I just get a schedule going and it changes.   like now, he goes to bed at 7pm, DF at 2am then wide awake at 5am, wanting to play. I'm not jiggy with that schedule, so I am in the process of changing it. I could go on, baby is sleeping  :-* instead I will shower!
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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2006, 21:39:26 pm »
Hi there
A bf mod here. So I'm just going to focus on the feeding aspect if that's OK.

I'd firstly say that although a yield can be a useful exercise in some ways it doesn't always represent what you are actually giving baby when they feed. A baby is so much more efficient at extracting milk because of the wave-like motion from their lower jaw and a pump really struggles to come close. Some people are successful pumpers but some nursing mothers don't even get a proper 'letdown'. I know many successful nursing mothers who struggle to even get an oz and hear their own baby glugging milk down for 15 minutes during a feed. So don't use a yield as the only indication of supply. There are good tips about pumping here:
http://www.pumpingmoms.org .However don't forget that the hormone prolactin which governs milk supply is stimulated by this wave-like motion and that means the more feeding at the breast you can do the better.

Any amount of breastmilk your baby gets makes a difference - even if it is only a few oz - but I bet it's more than you think.

I said that a yield isn't the best indicator of supply. Your baby is infact your main guide. I'd ask when you feed her do you hear clear swallowing noises and see a pause in her chin movements when she takes a swallow? Also how does a feed end? Does she break off seeming satisfied? Are you the one to end a feed? Do you feel she is falling asleep before a feed has finished? If you weren't supplementing I'd also ask you about wet nappies.

If she's waking up hungry after 20 minutes and you feel supply is an issue then there are a few things to consider:
Make sure you are eating and drinking enough yourself.
Do consider talking to a helpline (there are numbers on the bf FAQ page). They can talk to you about baby's latch (just incase it needs fine tuning) and give you good advice about how to boost your supply.
Although pumping is helpful and it's great you are pumping at night. It would help your supply and your prolactin levels if you did a night feed (prolactin levels are highest at night which is one positive thing about people who have to night feed!). You just might want to think about making perhaps the 3am a breastfeed if you can. You could ask the helpline more about that.
When you supplement just make sure you are offering the breast first. You might also want to consider something called breast compression which can make feeds more efficient and increase the fat content of your milk. You can read more about that here: http://www.kellymom.com/newman/15breast_compression.html

There is a mixed feeding thread on the bottle feeding board which you may find useful as you can talk to people about their experiences in combining formula and breastfeeding. Plenty of people mix feed successfully. If you want to try and return to more breastfeeding then I'm not sure what professional help you've had so far but it might be possible to increase your supply with some tips from a five minute conversation on a helpline. If you feel mixed feeding is the way forward then remember Tracy herself was very supportive of people who chose that route and you'll find plenty of people on these boards to help you.






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« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2006, 20:55:04 pm »
Thank you so much for the post on BF, Emma.  I believe that I have tried everything possible to increase my supply including supplements, spending the day in bed doing nothing but feeding and sleeping to drinking brown beer and whatever else the LC suggested to me.

A few unknowns are that my baby was conceived by IVF and fertility issues can sometimes be a factor with supply per my LC and I also have an auto immune disease- while nothing is definite they say this may affect my supply....would you know anything about this?

my baby does not seem satisfied ever after a feed and that is hard for me to see - while i feel like my body is failing me (again!) i also worry about her calorie intake.  I still plan to put her on as often as I can and will pump daily to insure that she is getting at least 3-6oz of BM a day.

ON A DIFFERENT NOTE:

I think a bath is to stimulating for my LO - she seems to be WIDE AWAKE after!  Last night after her bath we did her nighttime routine and feed and put her down - but it took us 3 hours to settle her - by then it was time for the DF which she took but was still awake but fell asleep half way through and finished sleeping.....so i am still SO CONFUSED about her getting her down for the night - I almost think it may just be that she wants to be up until 10 or 11 - what should i do??

her days are good - with a "loose" 3 hour EASY -

She will be 6 wks on Wednesday.

Thank you all for all of your help and guidance.

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« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2006, 21:06:55 pm »
what time do you usually bath her?

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« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2006, 21:20:58 pm »
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« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2006, 21:35:07 pm »
i know you said you find the bath too stimulating but have you thought of doing it earlier and then wind down time becomes a little longer and it falls into the A time? we bath fin at 1815ish and he then goes down roughly at 1915ish but he also has a good kick around and splashes and he did this when he was weeks old... just a thought stacy, it doesn't suit everyone.

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« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2006, 21:58:22 pm »
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A few unknowns are that my baby was conceived by IVF and fertility issues can sometimes be a factor with supply per my LC and I also have an auto immune disease- while nothing is definite they say this may affect my supply....would you know anything about this?

I'm afraid I don't know much about this. I've never heard of a connection between IVF and lactation and I would have expected to have come across a reference to it (I've just finished a study module on supply issues for my course to be a breastfeeding counsellor). If your body had a pregnancy and gave birth then all the hormones required were produced. I'm not clear how there is a connection. I don't know anything about auto-immune disease.

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I believe that I have tried everything possible to increase my supply including supplements, spending the day in bed doing nothing but feeding and sleeping to drinking brown beer and whatever else the LC suggested to me.


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Re: new to this - just starting - and a total mess
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2006, 00:23:02 am »
thank you for that - i really love BFing.

NOW - cross your fingers all, we have had a great day and it is 7:24 p.m. here and i have just got LO one down.  Let's see for how long!!

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Re: new to this - just starting - and a total mess
« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2006, 19:41:16 pm »
Hi - Emma (Samuel's mum) asked me to have a look at your post as my DD was also conceived by IVF (ICSI actually).

Firstly, I understand how you feel when you refer to your 'body failing you (again)'. I have to say that IVF was the most emotionally draining experience I've ever had and even when you're successful (Congratulations by the way  ;)) you still don't feel like a 'normal' pregnant woman. Every little twitch or pain makes you freak out and you are never really 100% sure the baby's going to come out healthy, or even survive for that matter   :-[ Every emotion is more intense than those experienced by someone who's conceived naturally and It's very hard for people who haven't been through it to understand. So let me just give you a HUGE virtual hug because I do understand and will be here to support you through all of the many good and bad times you have whilst raising your precious little girl    :)

ok...as far as breastfeeding goes. I have b/f my DD exclusively since birth. I still feed her, but only twice a day as she's very well established on solids and is fast approaching 12 months! I had problems to start with, but they were due to the fact that my LO was 3 weeks early and she was under 6lbs and too teeny to feed properly. I had to pump and then feed her with a syringe or cup :-\  I was never told at any point either during my treatment or while I was pregnant that I would have problems breastfeeding. As far as I know none of the drugs that we are given would affect this aspect of being a mum. Infact I would think that if anything they would increase your milk supply as they increase your hormone levels.

Perhaps the stresses of the treatment and worries during pregnancy have taken their toll and are negatively affecting your supply. The only way to get round this is to continue nursing your DD as often as possible and to try to relax. Don't get too caught up in the EASY routine. It's a fabulous system and will work wonders for you, but at this point you need to focus on your commitment to    b/fing your LO. Every woman can do it. There are very few physical reasons for not being able to (I hope Emma will agree) and I have a feeling that it's your brain that's giving you the problems and not your boobs  :-\

If there's anything I can do to help you get over your feelings of 'failure' then feel free to PM me whenever. You can do it!!  ;)

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Re: new to this - just starting - and a total mess
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2006, 22:44:02 pm »
I have another appt with the lactation specialist on Thursday to make sure that LO latch is correct and to just talk things through once again.  Just like I "worked" very hard to get PG I am not giving up on this without making a very big effort.  That being said my ped has basically recommended that I stop BFing.  Eliana was born early as well weighing less than 6lbs via c-section.

There is a Dr. Newman out of Canada that I am going to also contact that apparently will dispense a medication not FDA regulated in the US.  Domperidone?  Are you familiar with this?  It can improve your supply.  I am currently on Fenugreek, Blessed Thistle and mothers milk tea.

What is PM and how can i do that?

Thank you so much for all of your support - everyone has been very helpful to me and I am so grateful!

Stacy

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Re: new to this - just starting - and a total mess
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2006, 03:06:53 am »
click on the name of the person you want to PM.  it pulls up their profile.  at the bottom there are some links in blue and one of them is named something like send this person a personal message. 

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Re: new to this - just starting - and a total mess
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2006, 07:06:53 am »
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There is a Dr. Newman out of Canada that I am going to also contact that apparently will dispense a medication not FDA regulated in the US.  Domperidone?  Are you familiar with this?


Domperidone is used by several mothers on our bf board successfully. It has some side effects as all medication does but definitely gets results. (It is 'originally' a medication for bowel and intestinal conditions - reflux babies are sometimes given it infact)  Jack Newman is the world's leading authority on breastfeeding and his name comes up every day on the bf board. We talk about his website, his books, his 'handouts' which are distributed all over the world. He developed the domperidone initially for adoptive mother who want to breastfeed I believe so you can see it's effective. I use his book as my main textbook on my bf course - you'll be in good hands. Contacting him is like contacting Bill Gates to talk to him about your Microsoft programme (well you get the idea).

Why not do a new post on the bf board asking about people's experiences of domperidone? Or even ask the question 'Who's heard of jack newman?'

Let us know how you get one.

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Re: new to this - just starting - and a total mess
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2006, 07:17:38 am »
I think it's brilliant the amount of effort you're willing to put in to b/f your DD. A lot of women would have given up by now and turned to formula. I guess when you've worked as hard as we have to actually have a child you get pretty bloody minded about things and don't give up easily!  ;)

We seem to have a lot in common, so I'll look forward to hearing how you get on  :) xx

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Re: new to this - just starting - and a total mess
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2006, 16:53:09 pm »
Thanks for saying that - I will keep you posted - all of you have been very helpful and supportive.  I have to talk to my practioner about the medicine - Dr. Newman answered an email that I sent with a prescription that I can only fill in Ontario - so I will try and get one from my dr and fill online.

Last night was good.  DD did take a long time to start with dream feed - i was persistent though and after a while she did start to eat.  She then went from 11:40 p.m. to 3:38 a.m. - her longest stretch!

Does anyone have any good advice on how to get yourself to sleep though  :D ? - that is my latest issue that i am out to conquer!  My DH says just turn your brain off.....if it were that easy...

Have a nice day!