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Nursing to Sleep- 8 week old
« on: November 19, 2006, 04:44:52 am »
Hi Everyone,

I have a multi-faceted problem, so I'm not quite sure where to post this, except I KNOW it's a sleep problem.

I have a 8 week old DD and a 19 mo old DD.  I have been familiar with BW techniques since before #2 came along, but did not instill any sort of routine for her because I was just trying to cope with having two under 2!  At 7 weeks, however, I wanted to start.  My main priority was to teach #2  to not nurse to sleep.  I tried to start some form of EASY, but working it into my older DD's schedule is a little rough, so I had to be a little flexible.  She sleeps REALLY REALLY well at night- asleep by 930pm, DF at 11pm, wakes around 7am... Very few nights of night waking since the beginning.

However, I'm returning to work part-time in a few weeks, my dad is going to be watching them, and I need her to be able to fall asleep without me- and preferrably in her own crib.  We have tried shhh/patting, swaddling, bouncing, rocking, white noise (womb-sounds cd), pacifiers (all shapes and sizes- to no avail).  She basically CIO- except in my arms. But I just can't stand her crying for 45 min+.  I end up putting her to the breast and she's asleep almost instantly.

We have a decent naptime routine to wind her down, but I can't spend a lot of time in a quiet, darkened room at naptimes because DD1 hates to be left alone.  She'll play independently for awhile, but then will run into the room and yell "MOMMY MOMMY MOMMY" and all my hard work is down the drain.  We had been winding DD2 down, getting her asleep (without the breast,) then I'd wear her in a sling so I could pay attention to DD1.  Amazingly enough, she'd stay asleep.  Then, after a few days of that working relatively well, I had to accommodate a few schedule changes and Poof! she'd not go to sleep with anything but being nursed to sleep.  Now that's all she'll accept.  She cries through trying to be put down until it's time to feed again, and then promptly falls asleep at the breast.  Poor thing is exhausted, so I let her sleep.  But then the routine is off, and I don't know what to do.

What's the best way to get her to sleep if Shh/Pat is not working?

How can I accommodate my older DD's needs when trying to sleep train DD2?

I'm just soo grateful they are both sleeping through the night, I know I would be an absolute wreck if I were sleep deprived on top of this frustration.

Thanks for any advice:)
Shauna

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Re: Nursing to Sleep- 8 week old
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2006, 01:55:41 am »
hi Shauna,

how wonderful that they are both sleeping all night for you!! :)

i think you might need to look at shh/pat in a couple of steps - she is so used to sucking to sleep that i think it might help if you substitute a pacifier to help get her off your breast.  might be worth it to do that in conjunction with the shh/pat so she gets used to the cues.  then, once you do have her going down, you can always decide to get rid of the paci. 

all that crying is likely not because she hates shh/pat or that it's not working, but that she doesn't know why you aren't doing things the 'normal' way (i.e. the way she's used to). 

as for ideas on #1, there are several things compiled here:
https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=63933.0

HTH a little :)
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Re: Nursing to Sleep- 8 week old
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2006, 03:47:44 am »
Jaime, thanks for your reply...

I have another question (okay, more than one...)- if she cries through the time when she's suppossed to be sleeping and it's getting to be close to the three-hour mark for the next feeding- should I continue trying to sleep her?  Or feed her and make sure she doesn't fall asleep, then put her right to sleep?  I know that's more a question for the EASY boards, but maybe you could help?

Also, we have tried about 9 different kinds of pacis, and she doesn't take any of them easily.  Should I just keep being persistant?  Give up and say she isn't a paci baby?  I've also tried offering my pinky finger, which she'll take occassionally, but still hates.

How long am I suppossed to continue Shh/Pat?  Even if she's still crying?  I've read through Traci's books, and maybe I just don't get it....

thanks:)
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Re: Nursing to Sleep- 8 week old
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2006, 22:36:00 pm »
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if she cries through the time when she's suppossed to be sleeping and it's getting to be close to the three-hour mark for the next feeding- should I continue trying to sleep her?  Or feed her and make sure she doesn't fall asleep, then put her right to sleep?

feed her, and then put her to bed.

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Also, we have tried about 9 different kinds of pacis, and she doesn't take any of them easily.  Should I just keep being persistant?  Give up and say she isn't a paci baby?  I've also tried offering my pinky finger, which she'll take occassionally, but still hates.

when my dd was about that age, she didn't like pacis much either.  but we both noticed that she would suck on dh's finger happily.  Playtex makes a straight paci that we finally tried & she LOVED. 

if she ends up being a non-paci baby, then it will probably be a bit tougher for you now, but one less thing to get rid of in the long run. 

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How long am I suppossed to continue Shh/Pat?  Even if she's still crying?

until she is in deep sleep - about 20 min after she starts going to sleep.

check this out for more specifics to see if it helps clear things up for you too:
https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=26672.0

:)
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