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3 month growth spurt -- are we done?
« on: December 07, 2006, 19:00:46 pm »
I feel very sad as I type this.  I just wanted to thank everyone here for their support in our trying to BF.  I thought we had turned a corner the couple of days but now it looks like Joseph has hit his 3 month growth spurt and I cannot keep up.  I would be fine nursing him all night but I can't do it during the day.  Last night his night feed was nearly an hour instead of 20 min and this morning the first session he nursed/slept off and on for 2 hrs before sleeping an hour, the second session he nursed off and on for 2.5 hrs  :o (I tried to give him formula, he took 1 oz and refused the rest) and now hopefully he will get to sleep for at least a decent stretch, he is exhausted.  When DS1 is back this afternoon we will have to do bottles and I will pump as much as I can.  I wouldn't mind if it was just me but I don't want to starve my baby.   :'(
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Re: 3 month growth spurt -- are we done?
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2006, 20:05:23 pm »
You sound very sad :(.  I hope everything works out.  I don't know your story, but it sounds as if you have been trying very hard and doing everything you can.  You can always feel like you are doing what is best for your lo.  Take Care and keep writing to share your feelings.  This too shall pass.
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Re: 3 month growth spurt -- are we done?
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2006, 20:10:23 pm »
I am so sorry.  Growth spurts are so hard on us moms and it feels like there is no satisfying them... but the absolute best thing to do is to let him nurse - that way your body will respond to his needs.

Take a look at this thread from the FAQs
https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=66001.0

Hang in there.  Many {{{{hugs}}}} to you  :-*


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Re: 3 month growth spurt -- are we done?
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2006, 20:31:31 pm »
I'm so sorry it's feeling tough. Is there any way you could try getting hold of a sling and feeding while actually being on the move and getting on with life? I know it sounds a bit weird but many find it a life saver.
Many growth spurts only last 2-3 days. Let us know if there's anything we can do...
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Re: 3 month growth spurt -- are we done?
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2006, 20:40:22 pm »
Sorry to hear this. I have been following your other posts and know you have been having a rough time with bf. I would also say that a sling in great, esp during growth spurts. I think no matter how good your pump is, it cannot stimulate your breasts as well as your baby, and would have some concern that your supply may not respond as well to a pump during a growth spurt..

Lots of hugs and let us know how things are going xx
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Re: 3 month growth spurt -- are we done?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2006, 02:02:44 am »
Hang in there sweetie...the growth spurts feel like they last forever, but really only a couple of days. Thankfully my LO would slip into an 18 hour "milk coma" after his growth spurt and it allowed me time to recover also. Try the sling....nurse away. Beg favors from friends/family/playdates, use the TV for DS1...it won't last forever. We have lots of hugs for you.  :-*
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Re: 3 month growth spurt -- are we done?
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2006, 02:12:47 am »
Thank you for the kind words.  Today was a minor disaster.  I had to take Paul to an appt this afternoon and I didn't want to take Joseph because Paul is sick (I think I am getting it too).  While I was gone Joseph took 9 oz EBM over the course of 3.5 hrs, eating and stopping and eating and stopping, and basically refused to sleep.  I just nursed him and he is now asleep who knows for how long he was too tired to nurse properly and just passed out.   :'(  I hope he gets some rest and he can glom on to my boob for as long as he wants tonight.
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Re: 3 month growth spurt -- are we done?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2006, 05:18:31 am »
I was reading your post because I was the one that said I was having the same over active let down issue.  I was thinking about how you said that on the bottle he seemed to feed the same way he does when you nurse him.  If that is the case, I don't think the let down is the problem because he would feed differently on a bottle.  I am wondering if there is something else causing the bobbing on and off.  I don't know what it  could be but I know some people that have a son who is alrergic to the mom's breast milk (different symptoms but it is a random thing that happened)  maybe your son has some other internal thing going on.  maybe he has reflux or something else going on with his esophegus.  I am just throwing that out there.  I know it is frustrating, especially when you don't know what is going on.  I would go to your ped and ask him what could be happening.  really press him for ideas and tests that could be done to try to figue out the root of the problem.  it may not be you at all.  especially if he is having trouble sleeping too.  I think it could be something else that is the problem.
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Re: 3 month growth spurt -- are we done?
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2006, 17:29:39 pm »
Hi, we are doing better today so far, last night he nursed at 8:30pm (usually skips this one), 12:30am and up at 4:30am (he goes down early for the night -- last night asleep at 5:30pm), I am eating fenugreek and oatmeal and I seem to have "enough" milk -- or at least he doesn't want to nurse constantly.  He is very gassy and seems uncomfortable but is taking his naps this morning, maybe we're starting to get into the sleepy phase of his growth spurt?

Melissa, thanks so much for thinking of us and for the info, actually the breast and bottle are different.  On the breast he'll sometimes choke/gag and have a coughing fit right after I let down (and not just the first letdown, unfortunately), sometimes we can then finish the feeding fine, sometimes we finish in semi-distress, sometimes (like this morning) he won't resume nursing until 30-45 min later when hunger wins out over gas or whatever it is.  On the bottle, he'll take 2-3 oz just fine but then stop and refuse to eat any more and then be hungry again an hour later.  The LC was thinking reflux too when I spoke with her on the phone but at the most recent visit she said he didn't really look refluxy since he was on his back for a poopy diaper change after he ate and did just fine.  At our 2 mo check the ped said since he almost never spits and was gaining weight well she would not recommend medication.  I also made some dietary changes over the past couple of weeks -- giving up milk seemed to make no difference but giving up citrus seems to have gotten rid of the foul poop issue.  If you have any other ideas please let me know as I feel better having at least looked into the possible causes of our difficulties.
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Re: 3 month growth spurt -- are we done?
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2006, 03:59:05 am »
I don't know your whole story, but my ds had troubles with eating for quite some time.  I have a fast let down and he finally mastered gulping it but would only nurse for a few minutes and then would cry and refuse to eat any more.  The bottle was a little better but eventually he got to the point where he would only take a couple ounces at a time and then would seem to be in pain and wouldn't take more.  We thought it was reflux, but meds didn't seem to help and he is fine lying down too.  Finally we saw a GI specialist and he said it's a milk protein allergy.  I had already cut out dairy products (which didn't change anything) but now I am cutting out anything with milk/whey/casein/etc in it (lots of label reading).  It's been a couple weeks and I think things are improving so we'll have to wait and see.  Don't know all your symptoms but it's worth looking into.