confused re early w/u

[debo620]

well for a while after the time change ---he had not adjusted his morning wake-up. we had a 7-6 schedule previous to the time change and then 7-5am after. I continued to put him to bed at 7pm and not get him from his crib until 6am. There were many nights where he only got 10hrs of sleep and it was very hard. My son is older then yours though and overall I think he handled it.

Like I said---I think first start with 6:45pm and leave it there for several days/ or a couple of weeks. He will continue to wake at 5:30am but by you leaving him in his crib--he will eventually get the picture.

[OliverRowland]

HI...just an update..
DS woke at 5:15 this am...that is 3 days in a row earlier than 5:30 (at least this am it was after 5am)!  I left him in the crib until 6am as I couldn't handle the whining anymore.  But he fell asleep in my arms shortly after until dh woke us both up at 7am.  Does that mean he could sleep more...i mean if he wasn't tired would he fall asleep in my arms?
So, with him starting 30min later this am, we shouldn't have a horrible time with 15min later tonight.  But if back to old schedule, don't you think going from 3pm to 6:45pm of awake time will be tough for him?
Happy holidays!

[debo620]

well I don't know---if he is falling asleep in your arms---maybe he can sleep more. Can't remeber have you tried w2sleep---maybe at 4:30am?

How much was he sleeping at night before the early wakings. I guess for me---my son has never slept more then 11, so that is why I am saying 6:30pm-5:30am makes sense.

maybe try the 6:45bedtime consistently---based on him. How long is his usual awake time----also how long is the afternoon nap?

This week my son has been waking every morning at 4:30am most of the time he chatters and then goes back to sleep. This morning---he was up from 4:30-5:45, and then we had a 6:30am start which really messed up our naps. I will be doing w2sleep tonight---I think at 3:45am.

[OliverRowland]

Hi Debo620,
Ah yes, the wake to sleep....disastrous from day one!  Has never worked for us nor has a dreamfeed.
He used to do about 11 hours (7ish-6ish), but then he started doing 7-5 (or earlier) so I started putting him to bed earlier which also coincided with increased A (and a drop of the catnap).
Awake time had been 2.5 hours for a long time but we have now increased it to 2.75 over the past week.  His last nap is from 1:15pm-2:30/3pm (if he wakes before 3, I go in and hold him in the chair so he is quiet or goes back to sleep until 3pm...I do this so that he'll make it to 6:30-6:45pm without a catnap).
Christmas eve ds went to sleep at 6:45pm and woke on Christmas at 5:50...which is 20min later than usual!  But last night was disastrous with a couple of long night waking and a 5am wakeup!  I am just assuming that was over tired/over stimulated from Christmas/new toys/ and new people etc!
How is your lo doing?

[debo620]

well, Christmas festivities has thrown us for a bit of a loop---naps have been at the wrong times. Today, ds woke at 4:50am--I think b/c he slept yesterday from 3-4pm, anyway, we had plans today---so 40min from 8:45-9:20, 30min in the car 12-12:30, 30min in the car 4-4:30. I did try to lay him down at our friends house at 2:30pm but after 30min of him just NOT sleeping---I gave up and we drove home so he would sleep. Anyway--back to working on getting back on track tommorow. 

[Diegos Mama]

I wonder if at 5:30 he's just not tired anymore as he's been asleep already for 11 hours.  My boys have never slept 12 hours, they were always a bit under the averages.  Might this be the case for him too?  So, maybe it's not an early waking, just I'm done with sleeping and ready for the day waking!

Is he cranky during the day?  If not, I wager he's getting enough sleep.  As for moving things so he wakes up later, I'll leave that to the girls answering ...

[OliverRowland]

ya i think so too...it's a matter of shifting his schedule somehow.        

[Diegos Mama]

You can always work in gradual increments:  Awake at 5:30 am.  Hold off nap for 15 minutes (assuming he's a fairly resilent little guy and can handle it). Theoretically he'll wake from nap earlier, next nap would then have been pushed out 15 minutes and bedtime would have been pushed out too.  If it's too much you think, try ten minutes.  Then over the course of a week or two you should be able to push things out more and more.  I'd settle on a 7:00ish bedtime and aim for a 6:00 am wakeup time.

[OliverRowland]

Not sure I am understanding...start first nap at 9:15am instaed of 9am?  And he'll theoretically wake earlier?  How does that translate to later afternoon nap?  And wouldn't that make him more tired?
I am struggling at present with 6:45pm bedtime....he is really tired when I feed him at 6ish.  And he is now waking up crying b/w 9pm and 10pm for some reason...

[OliverRowland]

Hi Gals, I am back again!    I have successfully moved ds' bedtime to 7pm and he has handled it well.  However, despite the later bedtime he continues to wake early (5-5:30am).  How long should I keep going with a 7pm bedtime before I might see some am changes?  Should I go back to 6:30 so that he at least gets 10.5-11hrs at night?
Thanks!