Please! - need help with early riser and naps

[TDR'smom]

Hes very happy, if he cried I would go to him, he doesnt often make any noises, if they are hes talking.  Just let him stay as long as he tolerates and then add more as he does...

That's exactly what we did to get him to his current wake up time of 7:30AM.  It did not happen in just a few days, it took a while...but worked.

[Zaiby]

I was just going to ask how long this leaving in the crib in the morning will take to catch on, but I guess it could be a while

Riyan (ree-yaan) doesn't fuss much in the morning when he wakes up(unless he's sick), and just like you Stacy, sometimes I'm not sure when he's actually woken up..

you have given me hope and the will to leave him in there - le'ts pray it works with my little guy gosh 7:30 sounds like heaven!
Do you go back to sleep?  I find it hard when I can hear him awake and rolling around!

[TDR'smom]

Do you go back to sleep?  I find it hard when I can hear him awake and rolling around!

Sometimes....or other times, I use that time to shower, get ready for the day, drink my coffee, watch a little bit of the news and THEN go get him.  Because you KNOW when they are up it is SOOOOO hard to do those things.

Another positive is that you want them to learn how to occupy themselves.

It's a great thing!! 

You can do it!!!   

[Zaiby]

Yes, it is hard to do really anything these days when he is awake - Riyan has become quite a little climber and I can't look away for even a second..

I'ld probably learn how to sleep - ha ha just like Riyan - I am so not a morning person.  My Dh keeps telling me that I have to change, but I just can't do it - I just don't have a choice at the moment...
Though when DH goes in late for work, he does let me sleep in (for me now a days that's 7!).

Today though he woke up at 5:30 with a poopie diaper - ofcourse I did not know this and left him until he started whining which was close to 6 anyways...it it's not one thing it's another...

SIGH.

Z

[TDR'smom]

I slept into 7:20 horray for me! No idea when kaleb was up, he was TOTALLY quiet.

That's so awesome!

[/quote]I do that too, I will shower do a ch ore and then get Kaleb out, or I lay in my bed and cuddle my dog lol

I prefer to wake up slow, lounge in bed, why cant our babies?[/quote]


That's the way I look at it!!  I even leave him in his room if he wakes up early from a nap.  Noon-3PM is MY TIME.  Or Y time, as Tracey would say. 

[Zaiby]

As I mentioned Riyan has a cold/cough.  Last night he woke up at 2ish coughing uncontrollably - so I went and got hm, gave him some more cough medicine, but it took some time to take affect I guess untill the coughing subsided and then I put him back in the crib about an hour later and he went back to sleep.
I was really proud of him though - he didn't cry one bit through the whole thing - poor little guy, even when I put him back down...

He woke up this morning at 6:40, though he lost an hour during his wake up so really he was right on time with his usual wake up..

So the question now is - do I still do the catnap and if so what time?  I'm not sure he'll be ready to sleep at 9 or even 9:30 though I can try.  Keep in mind apparently he can go almost full awake times even with 30-40 minute nap..
Or do I just try 1 nap at around 11? And early bedtime...

Thanks

[Zaiby]

I did try at 9:45ish and no go - he was in there for 20 minutes having a ball and I knew he wouldn't sleep, so took him out.  We played a little and then I tried to give him lunch but he's not hungry - ususally he eats very well, but being sick I guess..So he went to sleep at 11:30 and he's still sleeping and it's 1..should I wake him at 2.5hrs (if he lasts that long) or just let him be?  I'm thinking he's sick so, let him sleep if he wants to?

Z

[Zaiby]

Thanks Stacy!

He slept 2 hrs so still even slightly earlier to bed...
Thanks for hanging in there with me...and Riyan

Z

[Zaiby]

Well, he was asleep last night by 6:30 and did wake up at around 10 coughing, but settled himself back down- I would have gone in if it got too bad, but it wasn't..
He ended up waking up at 4:30 though - so again 10 hrs...I left him until 5:30 as he was fine until he started making a fuss..
So he's asleep at 8:30 for his first nap - 4hrs after wake up.

Maybe all he can do at night is 10 hrs? regardless of naps?  Is this normal, or will he gradually increase as his naps stay consistant to 2/2.5 hrs?

[Zaiby]

Sometimes it's a tad more, sometimes less then 10 hrs.  I can count on my fingers the number of times he's slept 11 hrs on his own (without me giving him milk upon wake and then back to sleep for an hour or 2), and then I don't know what was different about that day - I remember thinking aha whatever I did the day before we should do again so we could get 11hrs again, but of course it didn't happen...sigh...

I agree he really does need 2 naps and usually doesn't fight them (it's just getting the timing right for that 2nd one), so I'll continue and see if anything changes..
It's just hard at his age when there are so many things planned in the day and he's napping or needs to nap...
Not to mention he might be starting toddler pre-school a couple of mornings a week in which the hrs are 9-12:30 so getting a catnap would be difficult.

Maybe I should try w2s, if I can drag myself out of bed that is

[Zaiby]

I hope everyone had a good holiday!

Riyan gave us a Christmas present and slept till 7

Well, he woke up at 5:25 and then fell back asleep - I'm not sure exaclty when, but didn't wake up again until 7  Woohoo!
And this was after a total of 3hr and 15minutes of nap yesterday.
I know I should have limited the naps but it just seemed like he needed it and maybe he did.  I read somewhere sleep begets sleep so maybe he's catching up?
He woke at 4 from his 2nd nap so he went to bed at 8 and was asleep within 10 minutes - so he roughly got 11 hrs!!!

He's on his catnap at the moment - went to sleep at 9:35 so I'll get him up in 30 minutes and then nap again at 1/1:30, I think as he just won't sleep on less A time even with 30 minutes catnap...
What do you think?
Plan is bed at 7/7:30

Could this be a turning point or am I speaking to soon??? Yikes - I don't want to jinx this!!
Z

[Zaiby]

I've tried putting him down at around 1 but he just doesn't sleep - not until at least 1:30 anyways..

Last couple of days he went to sleep at around 1:30 after 30 minutes in the am (i had to ap one day as he'd been there for almost 40 minutes and still not sleeping)- Tues he slept 2.5 hrs, yesterday he slept 1.25 hrs
So I have a tough time with the timings of his second nap - It's anyones guess - I don't want him to be overtired, but not undertired either...he seems tired/yawning alot, but when I put him in his crib, he just plays...
As for the mornings - we've had days from 5:20 to 7:00 this week - so it's still all over the map - and I've tried to stay as consistant as possible

Maybe I should try long am short pm (the worry with this is he won't take a pm catnap and we'll be having early bedtimes all the time)?

[debo620]

Hi Zaiby, we also really struggle with early wakings and only 10.5hr max night sleep. Currently, I am still doing 2 X1hr-1hr15min naps. He really still needs 2 naps since we have that early wake but sometimes I think that if we didn't have 2naps---maybe he wouldn't wake so early.I think I will opt for stretching out the morning nap time as I can, and moving that morning nap later and later until it becomes one nap. You are right though--the only problem then becomes fitting in a catnap. I will probably end up with a late afternoon walk

[debo620]

Thanks Stacy, the problem I have is that short naps always lead to short naps. My son can handle 4hr A time after a 1hr or more pm nap, but if he only naps for 40min in the am----I have a tough time figuring out how much A time he should have after that, I try for maybe 3.5-3.75hrs but he ends up 40min napping again, and then I have to do a third short nap. How much A time would you suggest after a 40min am nap? I know when he was younger---like 6months--it was about 3hrs----now what ?

[debo620]

ok thanks Stacy, right now---Noah is really only sleeping from 7-5:30am---so I just cant work this 30min am nap thing out.

this is what we have been doing:
wake 5:30
nap 1 wind down by 3hr 20min and asleep by 3.5hrs later---so 9-10 or 10:15
nap 2 windown at 3hrs 50min and asleep by 4hr mark (hopefully) so 2:15-3:30, yesterday I had him in his crib by 2:20pm but he was not asleep until 2:40pm (even though last nap had ended at 10:20) and woke at 3:50pm, was still quite tired and ready for bed no problem, asleep by 7pm
this is for the most part--working out ok but again if he sleeps any later then 5:45am----which I would like him to----it doesn't really work .

today I heard him awake at 4:55am but I thought he went back to sleep b/c quiet and then I heard him again at 5:30am.
He was grumpy from about 8:15am, so maybe he was up at  4:55am, I decide to go half way and had him in his crib for 8:30---he didn't fall asleep until 8:45 and was up by 9:30. I will aim for nap at 1pm and hope that he sleeps until at least 2:15

so, if to give 30min am nap what would I do, assuming 5:30am wake:
would the short am nap---hopefully make him go 11hrs at night?
I haven't been anxious to make any changes because of the hoildays.
 wake 5:30
nap 8:30-9
nap 11:30-1:30----if he'll sleep that long??
and awake from 1:30 until 7?