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Offline Layla

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Starting to roll and not sleep.
« on: January 10, 2007, 02:52:41 am »
Hi all, my lo has been rolling on her stomach for a while but not yet able to roll back and for the last few days this has been affecting her naps. She'll roll on her belly and will "attempt" to crawl but as this hasn't been masked yet, she just turns on her belly around and around and will get stuck and call out. I've been going in to place her on her back again but I am wondering if this is really necessary. Yesterday, for her am nap she did this for approx 30mins (during which I left her) but she was getting more and more tired as she was plonking her face into the matress but couldn't fall asleep. As soon as I turned her over, she fell asleep and slept for 1.15 hrs. This morning thou, she turned and again I waited and waited and she wouldn't fall asleep so I turned her over...she fell asleep...but during the transition, turned on her belly again and would not go back to sleep. She only slept for like 40mins and the same thing occured during her pm nap.

The same thing hapened with #1 but what I did with her was to buy a "thick belt" so to speak. Its a wide material which wraps around the cot matress and ends up in the middle of the matress with a strap. The baby is placed in the middle of the strap and the strap goes around the waste of the baby so that they are not able to roll. The strap is for the waste only so they are still able to move their legs and arms, etc... They can still move from side to side and it worked really well with Bella. When she was finally able to roll back and worth, I removed the belt when she was 9months old. It only took her 2 days to get used to and she had slept on her belly (predom) since. Should I get the belt out until #2 learns to roll over or has anyone been successful with tummy sleepers. The thing is, she doesn't know how to twist her head on the side and so ends up with nose down. I'm obviously abit concerned about her sleeping like that and being uncomfortable and not really sure how to "teach" her to place her head on the side during her A times???

I don't mind leaving her on her belly but she just gets more worked up and she is obviously getting more tired and when her naps are affected, her night sleep is affected and when the baby's night sleep is affected, my toddler wakes up and in turn the toddler's day is affected (hmmmnnn basically trying to find the easy way out here  :-\ so that I am not up all night with a baby and a toddler and in turn having a cranky baby and toddler the next day  ;)).

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Layla
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Re: Starting to roll and not sleep.
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2007, 20:08:09 pm »
Um, i wouldn't advise use of the strap.  This is just a phase and will be over shortly.

My dd started doing this at 5months old and it drove me bonkers.  I think we lost 5 days worth of naps, but then it was over with.  Once she knew how to roll, wakeup and not be afraid of what had happened, she stopped.

I know it seems so frustrating, but she needs to go thru this.  I tried leaving dd, but that never really did any good.  Hang in there!  I found, walking into her room and flipping her back over worked.  And, i never said a word at all, just did it and got out of there.

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Re: Starting to roll and not sleep.
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2007, 00:10:33 am »
Oh, layla, I'm so glad you posted this question as I was on here searching for some answers to the same question...well sort of!!

 my son has slept on his tummy for almost 2 1/2 months now.  Hes now 4 months and has learned how to roll on to his back.  I'm both excited to see this but struggling as well because once he rolls on to  his back, he wakes up, starts looking around and good luck trying to get him back to sleep (this usually happens at the 45 min to 90 min mark during naps). 

I've tried to let him fall back asleep on his own but no such luck, however if I roll him back on his tummy, do some shh/patting he'll fall right asleep. 

My question is, should I be trying now to teach him how to fall back asleep on his back or should I continue rolling him back on his tummy to get him back to sleep??!!

Thanks,

Shelly 
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Re: Starting to roll and not sleep.
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2007, 01:12:50 am »
Layla- I have never heard of the belt you describe but we came up with something similar when our lo went through that period.  We took a regular sheet and folded it up until it was about the width of our lo from chest to just past his feet.  We would then lay it over him and tuck the ends under neath the crib mattress.  We used this for a bit until he learned how to wiggle himself out of it and then we took it out just to be safe.  We also used one of those side/back sleep positioners and positioned it so that our lo just fit in it and it was difficult for him to roll over.  Both of these things helped for a little bit but eventually we just had to deal with the wakings until he learned how to be content sleeping on his tummy and how to roll back onto his back.  Do you swaddle?

Shelly- Because of the SIDS thing, it is always recommended that little one's sleep on their backs, or at least are originally put that way and if they roll over okay.  Because you lo has slept on his tummy I do not see an issue with rolling him back to his tummy to get him back to sleep.  However I would encourage you to get him used to being on his back so that he will feel comfortable sleeping on his back.  Does he have a mobile or one of those crib arch toys so he has something to look at if he does roll on to his back?

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Re: Starting to roll and not sleep.
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2007, 01:20:36 am »
Tink - no, I don't swaddle since dd didn't like that from 2-3 weeks. I know what you mean about having to deal with it eventually but I thought it would be easier to deal with once she knows how to roll back again, iykwim  :-\. I have to admit, I did get it out cause I didn't want a repetoire of yesterday's bad nap day and she slept this morning for almost 2 hrs. Its safe though, so please don't think I strap her down to bed (lol) she is mobile enough but it does make it difficult for them to roll over as well. Oooh, I wish I could send a picture or something.

I know with every developmental phase napping is off for a while - if only she wasn't so sensitive to tiredness (which baby isn't?) , its so easy for her to hit the overtired zone and I guess I am just trying to avoid that.

How long did it take your lo to learn? Days? weeks?
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Re: Starting to roll and not sleep.
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2007, 02:18:56 am »
Layla- I in no way think that anything you do is harming your child, at least not on purpose (I do think sometimes we do think we are okay but then later realize it was harmful, it is a learning process).  I was nervous at first to mention using the bedsheet to "trap" my son down months ago but I decided to share because I knew that he was fine and I was a good mommy.  I think if you feel comfortable with it then okay.  We did everything we could to help our son and avoid all the issues that come with that stage.  I don't remember how long it took but I can tell you that it seemed like forever at the time and now it seems like it was so brief.  Not to worry you even more but it seemed like as soon as he mastered that we moved on to the next sleep issue, sitting up then crawling.  Now it is standing, and next it will be walking.  It never ends...  ;)

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Re: Starting to roll and not sleep.
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2007, 05:16:55 am »
Kimberly, lol about the standing and walking part. I remember when mine started standing up in her cot (at 9m), she used to do laps around it until she was really tired and then would take this great 2 - 2.5 hour nap. That same week that she learnt how to stand, she actually started sleeping straight through (not sure if there is a connection thou).

I'll see how I go...btw, I have just realised that there is another post about exactly the same issue. I can't believe I didn't see it before posting

Anyway, thanks for your help
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Re: Starting to roll and not sleep.
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2007, 14:14:53 pm »
Anytime.  Hope things get better for you.   ;D

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Re: Starting to roll and not sleep.
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2007, 18:49:51 pm »
Hi Kimberly, thank you for the feedback, we do have a mobile but actually moved it on to the change table as it was soo interesting it would keep him up!!! my DS is touchy/spirited so we've had to keep all distractions to a minimum. 

I was sooo worried about tummy sleeping when we realized he slept so well like that, however, hes been able to roll on his side and turn/lift his head from about 5 weeks so I felt more comfortable leaving him on his tummy... I think over the next few days I'm going to work on trying to settle him to sleep on his back and see if he can adjust. 

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Re: Starting to roll and not sleep.
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2007, 19:29:04 pm »
::lol::  Well you certainly don't want to use a moble if it makes things worse!  Kids can be so silly at times.   ;D  I think your idea of settling on the back sounds good.  Hopefully it will work.

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