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« on: January 12, 2007, 11:50:15 am »
I think this is more of a vent than earstwhile plea for help, BUT:

why is it that foods dd loved just yesterday are point blank refused today?
why is it that she says yummm any time I go near the fridge but refuses to try what I offer her?
why is it that she is trying to climb in to her high chair and making hungry noises but won't eat a bite, no matter what I offer her, be it from my plate or her own?
And worst of all, why is it that a 14mo can be even more stubborn than her Mummy?

What to do?

She always has porridge for breakfast, but wouldn't touch it today, I finally gave in after 2 hours and gave her a piece of bread and butter. At lunch time she didn't want the cream cheese and ham concoction I know she loves, wouldn't touch the polenta, ate about 3 bites of my lunch and a 1/6 of a banana. Now I'm really wondering if she should get her afternoon milk or will it just lead her to not eating dinner?

I don't like this  >:( does someone want a small child going free to a good home?
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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2007, 11:57:07 am »
she is beautiful

i can so relate, i hate taking the time preparing all this wonderful food and i hate the shopping i did to buy the food as well not to mention the money it cost

hang in there
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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2007, 11:58:41 am »
Sure Katie, come drop her off... you know she'll eat for someone else  ;)

{{{{hugs}}}  Remember, she won't starve herself.  :-*
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2007, 12:07:34 pm »
No I keep telling myself that, but why does she keep making hungry noises if she isn't, the nasty little tease?

I refuse to let her live off white bread and butter. I guess she's just not hungry enough!
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2007, 12:43:08 pm »
Katie, {{{{HUGGS}}}}

p.s. yesterday i gave Paul for breakfast a french toast, with peanut butter and jelly, and he finished all of it :o (he never does when i just put honey) perhaps she will like that? :-\
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2007, 19:24:44 pm »
KATIE HI! WE R GOING THROUGH SIMILAR THINGS, I REALLY PUT IT DOWN TO TEETHING AS DS USED TO BE A REALLY GOOD EATER AND NOW HE DOES THE SAME AS LISI GRRRRR MY PED SAID GIVE HIM WHAT HE LIKES TO EAT AND DONT INSIST. tHERE ARE SOME SACHETS CALLED 'RINFORZA' WHICH SHE GAVE ME, THEY BASICALLY CONSTITUTE  A MEAL SO IF SHES NOT EATEN WELL ALL DAY THEN ONE OF THOSE WILL ESURE SHE GETS WHAT SHE NEEDS. IS SHE STILL HAVING MILK? T SUDDENLY DECIDED HE LOVES HIS MILK AGAIN SO PED ALSO SAID LET HIM HAVE  AS MUCH AS HE WANTS TILL PHASE PASSES

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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2007, 23:01:48 pm »
All you can do is put the food in front of them and they decide if they will eat it.  I would offer the meal or snack and if she eats it fine and if not then she waits until the next meal/snack time.  Just be sure to always offer healthy choices. And as much as you may think other wise she will not starve herself.
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2007, 13:40:19 pm »
how r u getting on katie? Today I made T marinated chicken and potato chips....stupidly gave them together and SURPRISE! he onyl ate the chips!! And he LOVES chicken!
Do u have the annabel karmel book? It has some great recipes, T was a good eater and has suddenly become picky and i find her recipes he seems to like

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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2007, 16:22:09 pm »
just bought the rinforza, thanks for the tip. So far she's refused to drink it though  ::)

yesterday I managed to get a bowl of barley soup into her (which she's refused today) today she's had 300 ml milk, 3 bites of porridge and 2 satsumas. All I can think of is that she's got an upset stomach like dh, but it really is driving me mad!

I've almost given up making recipes just for her - she just won't eat them most of the time! The only thing that always works is cold pasta with nothing on it  :P

Ugh.
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2007, 16:57:17 pm »
I'd go with whatever works at the mo, saves u going mad and at least shes eating. I fidn with T if he doesnt fancy whatever I offer and I try to do something else which i know he likes, he has lost interest and cant be bothered!!
the rinforza can go in the milk ;)
try putting pastina in the soup? at least its extra carbs.
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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2007, 20:10:05 pm »
DS is almost 15 months and I'm going throu the same...so I totally feel your frustration......I've even cried about this. especially when I make an extra effort to cook tasty/healthy meals that  I swear he'll love....I don't know what else to do ..my brain is fried...I spend at least 1 hour at each meal time ..and then all the cleaining I have to do because most of the food ends on the floor...I don't look forward to meal times... Today I gave him  strawberry shake and scramble eggs and bread for breakfast and he didn't like it ...then I gave him peanut butter on a toast (something that he always like) and he only ate 3 pieces....
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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2007, 04:09:31 am »
Katie,

Was Lisi a really good eater to start with?  I'm thinking she was?  Nello was and then went super picky 2 months ago and I thought, oh no, here we go.  I made all his fave's, he even turned up his nose to pasta, which he loved.  I got really down and of course his sleeping was off.  It was a real low point for us.  Then he got all those teeth in that time.  At one point when the eye teeth were coming and he had a cold, he only ate yoghurt or cheese.  Now, he is back to normal and eats loads again.  Of course he has his toddler quirks and picky-ness, but all his fave's have returned, well, except for bananas?!   Is it possible she is due for her molars and eye teeth?  ((((HUGS))))

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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2007, 05:39:35 am »
I would SO trade you, but I think we'd be swapping twins!!! 

I have absolutely no suggestions, my dear, but I think you know that I'm struggling right along with you.

Big hugs cuz I know how stressful it can be!   :-*
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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2007, 12:03:05 pm »
hmmm everyone whith babes this age seems to be having the same prob? Maybe aside from the teething etc its an attention thing? My ped said this to me, that at this age they realise u worry if they dont eat and get A LOT of attention from u at mealtimes. I def think this is the case with T altho he is a lot less hungry than he used to be
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2007, 13:14:43 pm »
YaYa and all, that is why I think the teething is really the main culprit.  With us, the worst was nearly 2 months before the actual last teeth came out, (4 molars and 4 eye teeth) then his appetite was off and on, as each tooth came.  It started getting better once the bottom 4 came and I was relieved and then it went really downhill until the 4 top cut. (lowest point in our experience with him.) I remember trying to eat crunchy food when I was getting my wisdom teeth in--ouch, so can you imagine your molar area being so sore for these LO's?  Of course my theory still stands that they had to be very good eaters before the teething episode for it to return and of course it will be less as they are toddlers now.  Although, I find Nello's milk has went down but his food way up, recently he is a horse. It always felt like he was testing me and that it was behavioural, then I realised the reoccurring pattern with him.  Teething does a number on him, he has a touchy, highly emotional side.  Even with his first tooth at 4 months, I didn't know what the heck was going on, my boob monster-- he was refusing my breast?!  Was it to early for him to not want boob?  Then a few days later---a tooth.  I went back to this time and remembered my feelings and the disappointment and hurt it created and decided to relax and just wait it out (and drank loads of wine;-) ). Of course, some of you may have always had LO's with eating issues or have a way to go with teething, Im here for you!  I really feel for you ladies, it is depressing.  I love to cook and eat.  I took it so personally, especially because he changed it seemed overnight, I was crushed.  I started blaming DH's family as they are all picky eaters, it really brought the worst out of me and probably because I  was so sleep deprived too.  There is a light at the end of the tunnel and I am so much happier now, please may this happen for all of you soon.  ((((HUGS))))

Aisling x

ps. it is such a vicious cycle as food=sleep for us and with him not being rested it also affected his appetite even more, he does not eat well when tired--eeek, it was rough!  2 yr molars come when he is 2 pleeeeeease!
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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2007, 17:17:48 pm »
Aisling, you could be on to something teething wise,  but it feels like this has been going on forever - can you have 4 months of permenant teething?? The problem is most of the time (when there's no food around) she's quite cheerful and not showing any other signs, and she won't let me take a look or prod in her mouth to see what's going on. However, being the mean mummy I am I held her upside down whilst she was screaming (desperate times- desperate measures) and there are 2 teeth (an eye tooth and a molar) peeking through and the gum around another eye tooth is taut. The thing that really bothers me most is that over the last 3 or 4 months it seems like we have 75% off days compared to 25% good ones. Sooner or later she's going to end up with scurvy or such like!

Yaya, I'm going to have to get clever with the Rinforza - a bottle of milk with one scoop in will be drunk, two scoops not  ::) I give her pastina in her night time bottle, well, usually oatmeal but it has the same function.

The battle goes on! It's good to know I'm not the only one fighting it  :D
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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2007, 01:00:48 am »
Katie,

I would say in total it took almost 3 months for things to settle down.  The last 2 top molars and the one last top eye tooth that came out together where the worst.  Nello would only eat yoghurt and BF for about a week.  His poops were like his newborn days!  :( 

So here we are just 2 weeks later and for dinner tonight at our Aunt's house no less, he ate Farfalle Pasta Primavera, BBQ lambchops and dipped his bread in the vinegar of my salad!  :o  The difference in 2 weeks is insane.  Can you imagine his poop tomorrow LOL!  ((((MANY HUGS)))) again. 

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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2007, 01:06:25 am »
Yes, I KNOW teething can go on forever with those molars and eyeteeth, because Riley started teething his first molar at just gone a year, now he is 17 months and the last molar just came through and the eye teeth are just coming through the gums, all at once.

When he has all his teeth he will have no excuses anymore LOL!

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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2007, 12:27:34 pm »
The poor petal now has the runs on top of everything else  ::)

Aisling, I remember you once mentioned a favourite of Nellos - beans in a tomato sauce with polenta. Is it that simple - cannelini beans, garlic, canned tomatoes or is there an old family secret in there somewhere?
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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2007, 12:33:43 pm »
same here we had a 3mos period of hell!
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« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2007, 14:05:18 pm »
Oh, {{{hugs}}} to all of you out there going through this. It could have been me writing that post. DD (just a year) was a great eater and sleeper and for the past 3-4 weeks now, every mealtime is a struggle and a fight and her sleeping is off as a result and she wakes starving in the middle of the night taking 8-9 oz.  Anyway, it's nice to know that we're not alone (not so nice knowing we're just in the early stages of this and it could go on for months!!!) yikes!!! Let me know how you all make out.
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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2007, 14:59:09 pm »
(((HUGS))) The Vern.

Yes Katie, we use those exact ingredients with a little water and wine too for more liquid.  I do the polenta in the oven. (so easy, 2 cup of cornflour/meal to 8 cups of water in casserole pan for 1.5 hrs on 400) I use the cannelloni or bortolli beans like I do for Pasta Fagiola too. Hope Lisi is better soon.

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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2007, 15:20:20 pm »
So sorry bout little Lisi and the runs.  Unfortunately it could be a week or more til her appetite gets back to "normal" - at least that's my experience with the Bug.  I thought of you yesterday.  Katiebug was actually eating carrots!!  She wouldn't swallow the bits that she chewed up, but I was so pleased that she would hold them, put them in her mouth, bite some off and chew it.  Maybe just maybe in a few days she'll start swallowing those little mushed up bits!  I figured you'd be the only one that can understand how excited I am that she's spitting carrots out!!! 
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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2007, 16:27:18 pm »
Casey, have our lives come to this - I am genuinely excited that Katie spat out her carrots lol! It's a major step forward from refusing point blank.

I thought I was so clever, having Lisi sit on the countertop whilst I cooked, getting her to add the peas to her risotto, no pressure dinner with out a bib, infront of baby einstein. Nope, she's not going to play. Oh well.

Give the carrot musher a smooch
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« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2007, 16:32:17 pm »
LOL!  I hope they're not this stubborn when they're teenagers!  Kisses to Lisi too!
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« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2007, 08:19:12 am »
A post of hope to all you still suffering from picky monsters,

we were at the doctors last week: in the last 6 weeks Lisi has actually lost weight, is down on the 1% line and they got all nervous BUT we got home and she started eating  :o must be something they spray in the air at the hospital! Now she's unstoppable scoffing down (almost) anything and everything I put infront of her  :o :o :o her belly has grown so much by the evening that I can see it from behind when she's in the bath  ;D.

She has ALWAYS refused fish and tomato sauce, but now has decided that tuna tomato sauce with capers is food of the Gods. Yogurt is back on the menu, and I'm feeling much more relaxed  ;D

Thankyou everybody for all your support, it really helped when I was feeling so desperate. Stick at it all of you still suffering and I hope that it passes sooner rather than later.

Katie  :-*
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