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shush pat stopped working?
« on: March 08, 2007, 23:05:10 pm »
i`m sat here at 11 pm and my 15 wk old baby girl has finally gone off to sleep but i1m really sad as i feel it`s all going wrong. i will try to be be as brief as poss. When my son was born 2 yars ago i bought the book and using tracy`s advice and reading the book thoroughly i now have a son who sleeps wonderfully every night and i know this is down to the baby whisperer. this time i don`t seem to get time to sit and read as its much harder with a toddler too so i hope you guys could perhaps help me. I have to be honest i don`t really follow  E A S Y as i should as she does like a long nap in the afternoon and as she has up to now gone to bed at night ok i`ve let her sleep. UP until yesterday she would have her bath at 7 then i would breast feed for approx 20 mins. She would then sit for 5 mins and her dad would take her up to her cot swaddle her and shush pat her on her side and this would take anything from 5 to 20 mins. DAd has done this all along as when i tried she fought me so much i gave up and have put this down to her smelling my milk? However the last two nights she would not stop screaming for over 20 mins so both nights he brought her down again, i fed her as he said she became unswaddled and started sucking her fists. He then took her back up but again she screamed for ages and he has just come down and said she is still crying but 1 minute later when we switched the monitor on she had stopped and is now asleep. I just wonder are we doing something wrong or do i need to start pick up put down cos if so i shall have to get my book out as i can`t remember what i did 2 years ago. Phew!!! sorry its so long hope you can help as i`m so sad  and hate to hear her so upset.

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Re: shush pat stopped working?
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2007, 19:23:33 pm »
at the moment she is still too young for PU/PD as too stimulating for her.
Is it pos to see her routine??

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Re: shush pat stopped working?
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2007, 23:51:10 pm »
i think this essentially is the problem as there is no real routine even though i have a poster up in the kitchen with the E A S Y routine on it. So i shall try to be brief and tell you a typical ish day
7 ish my son wakes and so i get out of bed and this wakes baby who is also in bed with me. For next two hours she feeds and i get her and son ready and about 9 she will fall asleep for half an hour in her car seat.
11 ish i wrap her up feed her then put her in pram and she sleeps until 4 ish. she will then feed for half hour then lay on the floor or sit in her chair until 5. she will usually feed again about 5 on and off until 6ish.
7 ish bath and cluster feeds usually until 9 althogh she may have a 10 min nap during this time. Then as i explained dad attempts shush pat and this increasingly results in failure. The last few nights i`ve then put her in bed and she falls happily to sleep on the breast where if possible she would stay until 10 the next day latching on when she wants. Oh dear i`m doing everything wrong aren`t i? I fear i have instilled a lot of bad habits and now can`t get out of them as from day one when she wakes during the night i brought her into bed and let her stay because i couldn`t stay awake.
I need help and to make matters worse i can`t even find the book for help :(

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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2007, 22:17:02 pm »
ok we've ALL done accidental parenting.i used to put sasha in the bed with me when she had awful NWs at one point cos i needed to sleep.so don't beat yourself up about it!!the good thing is its all fixable
i think a lot of the problems lie in her general day.shes having a really long nap in the middle of the day and a long period of time between one of her feeds.
also her bedtime is too late.even if she has a 10min nap shes awake for 5 hrs and this is making her very overtired.this is probably why Shush/pat is working.overtired babies are very difficult to get to sleep.
i'm going to find a routine for her age (as i really can't remember sashas routine at that age!!!).i think if we can get a routine in place then we can start to work on weaning off the nursing to sleep etc.
Andrea

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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2007, 22:24:45 pm »
i've found a routine that may help.you may have to play around with timings etc.
Wake at 6.30/7am and play in cot
7.00am Breastfeed
9.00am Nap
10am Breastfeed
11.30 Nap
1pm Breastfeed
2.30 Nap
4pm Breastfeed
5.15 Nap
7pm Bedtime routine and breastfeed
10.15pm Dreamfeed - slept till 6.30am

HTH

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Re: shush pat stopped working?
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2007, 17:48:23 pm »
thank you so much we`re going to start tomorrow

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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2007, 18:55:45 pm »
let me know how it goes ;D