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Hi from Thailand, Please help me my baby is nightwaker
« on: April 05, 2007, 02:41:59 am »
Hi I'm not good in English cause I'm not a native speaker. If my writing does not make sence to you, please understand.  My son is 5 months old now. He was a good sleeper when he was 3 months old. When he was 4 months, he started to wake up at night to play. I tried everything that another mom suggested me such as turn off the light and did not play with him, no nap for him in the evening or even let him cry himself to sleep but nothing work. He still wake up at 10 to 1 for playing. This is his EASY
Gets up at 10
BF at 10.30
Play 45 minutes then nap time routines
Nap at 11.30
get up at 1 or 2
BF then play until 3.15
Nap time routines and nap at 3.30
get up at 4.30 or 5
BF and play until 6.30
Bed time routines at 6.30
Go to bed at 7.15
Dreamfeed at 9
then he gets up at 10 to 1 or 2 every night
His nap time routines, reading book, rocking him while I sing lullaby until he is dawsy then put him in his crib while he is awake.
Bed time routines, bath then book , rocking while I sing him lullaby until he is dawnsy then put him in his crib.
What should I do. Should I wake him up at 8 and start new routines or should I do whatever it takes him to sleep when he gets up to play. Or should I move his bed time later at 9. Anyone can give me an advice please. Thank you very much.

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Re: Hi from Thailand, Please help me my baby is nightwaker
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2007, 04:01:52 am »
Hi!  Just wanted to jump on quick and try to help.  I think the main reason he is waking to play at night is because his day is too short.  Try starting the day earlier at 7 or 8 and not later.  I am confident that we can get you in a better place.  There is no need to let him cry it out.   Here is a sample EASY schedule to follow:

E  7:00 wake and bf
A  until 8:45 then wind down
S  9:00 nap

E  10:30 bf
A  until 12:30
S  12:45/1:00 nap

E  2:00 bf
A  until 4:15
S  4:30 nap (always 30-45 min)

E  5:15 bf
A
A  7:00 start bedtime routine
E  7:20 bf
S  7:30 bed

E 9:30-10 DF

Try this starting tomorrow morning and go by the clock/sleep cues, but you need to keep him up longer during the day for him to sleep through the night.  So, start w/ an earlier morning and we'll go from there.  ;)

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Re: Hi from Thailand, Please help me my baby is nightwaker
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2007, 16:08:43 pm »
I agree with Lena!
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2007, 01:46:45 am »
Hi Lena and Jessica
Thank you so much for your suggestions. Yesterday, I followed your routine. He did not get up at 10 but he got up at 3 instead.  ;D poor mommy. He was suddenly waking up hysterical at night. I came to check on him but nothing wrong. He cried while his eyes closed. I'm not sure if it was a night terrors or nightmares. I tried to comfort him but it seemed worse. He cried louder and screamed. So I picked him up and tried to feed him. I think I woke him up cause his eyes opened and he seemed awake. He did not go in to my breasts, just kept crying. Then I rocked him until he was quiet. I put him back in his crib, he did not cry. He just talked to himself and played in his crib. About an hour, he went back to sleep. What should I do in this situation. Do you have any idea if it's a night terrors.

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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2007, 02:02:29 am »
Fussymom-  It sounds like the sleep thing is a little better waking at 3 instead of 10!  That is a good start, right?  However, the nw is a little wierd.  How long did he cry like that before you picked him up?  I would consider doing shh/pat instead of bf.  Although you were looking to sooth him, you might be better off going as you intend to continue.  I've been so messed up that we started the bf to sleep thing and I wouldn't recommend it.  ;)  Do you think he was in pain?  Might he be teething?  I am just trying to throw some other possibilities for the screaming out there.  You might be right w/ the night terror though. 

I think the schedule will definitely help, but there are little bumps that might pop up in the process.  That okay though, because they'll be easier to address once he's used to the routine.  KWIM? 

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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2007, 02:38:54 am »
Hi Lena
Thank you for your responding. You responded me very quickly.  :-* Yes I think it's a good start that he gets up at 3 instead of 10. Your routine is wonderful and I will stick with it. It helps me a lot. It's easier for me to plan my day and I can get some rest. My hubby and I get up at 5. Therefore my baby slept at 1 or 2 so I did not get much rest. Last night, I went to bed at 9 and he got up at 3. See, I had 6 hours to sleep and I'm not a fussy poor mom today.  ;D
By the way, he cried longer than 15 minutes before I picked him up. I waited for 5 minutes before I came to check in. I tried to shh/ pat him for 5 minutes. It was getting worse cause he screamed so I stopped. I waited for another 5 minutes to see if he would sooth himself. He kept crying so I picked him up and tried to feed him to see if he would quiet. But it did not work so I rocked him.
Yes you are right. It's not a good idea to bf to sleep. I was desperated at that time. He screamed and cried like he was in pain. Lena, how can I know if he is teething.

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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2007, 04:25:37 am »
I'm glad you finally got some rest.  Have you read the BW book?  Tracy never recommends CIO or letting them cry for extended periods.  However if you think he is starting to settle himself, you can hang back.  If not, then you need to go to him and comfort him while he learns to settle himself.  You can do that with shh/pat and being consistent, which might mean that it could take an hour or more.  And eventually after he's 6 months old, you can do pickup/putdown.  But pu/pd is recommended after you've exhausted other alternatives.  I would really suggest that you read the book and you can also get lots of good information on this site.  I'll attach a few links for your reading pleasure.  :)

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=69187.0

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=69177.0

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=69183.0

If you think he's sick or teething, give cuddles and help him fall asleep.  Don't do any sleep training if you think he's ill.  Regarding teething, is he chewing on his hands or drooling alot?  Does he have rough/swollen gums?  Have you tried any teething remedies if you've noticed any of the aforementioned signs?

I forgot to ask, does he use a paci?  When do you use it?

Hope tomorrow continues to look up for you.  :)

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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2007, 05:01:23 am »
Hi FussyMom!

So sorry to hear that you are struggling right now.  Remember that this too shall pass and that even though it may seem hopeless at times, you are doing the right thing by helping him learn to sleep on his own.  You will learn his cues more when you keep him on a routine...I found this very helpful.

If you try to follow Lena's suggested routine, you will find it gets easier...keep in mind that the routine is new for both of you...your little guy needs time to adjust to this as well.  It will take several days of consistency to really appreciate the new routine.  You may want to try the new routine on the weekend when you have the help of a partner or friend...because you may be tired as you wake earlier in the day and get him up at that time too.  If he doesn't wake easily on his own, I would try things..letting some light in, turning lights on..that kind of thing...then get him up and start your day....you will both be tired for a couple of days...but it will come around for you.

I have one more thing to add about his night wakings...if he's not waking to nurse, then I would even try consoling him in his crib..and not even take him out...I would want to be careful about rocking him to sleep.  You are teaching him that it's okay that he is sleeping on his own..and that he will learn this new skill too...with time.  So I would reach over the edge of his bed and console him from there.  I still do that with my little girl sometimes.  She just need to know I'm there and she settles back down.  I would only take him out if it is not getting any better with trying to settle him while he is in his bed....if it seems like his cries are intermittent or not quite as urgent, give him more time to try on his own.  Use your voice and your touch to let him know you are there to help him.

Remember!  You are doing a great job!  You came on here looking for some help.  You will find the book is helpful and this community is very supportive.  You are a great mom for doing what is best for your baby ! Keep up the good work!  And be sure to keep us up to date on how things are going.

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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2007, 00:23:20 am »
Hi Lena and Leanne  :-*
Thank you again for your suggestions and support. Last night, he woke up at 1 but he did not cry at all. He talked to himself, played in his crib ( I heard he laughed ) and roll over. About 2 hours, he cried a few second then he was quiet. I came to check and I found out, he went back to sleep on his own. Should I do whatever to make him sleepy so he goes back to sleep. Or should I let him play as long as he does not cry.
Thank you so much for the links Lena. When he was 3 months, he stoped taking paci. I do not see that he has swollen gum. And he did not cry like he was in pain last night. Well, I tried cry it out method for 3 days to see if it worked. Therefore, he would sleep if I nursed him. Since I tried cry it out, he can sooth and go back to sleep by himself. Sometime, he cries for 5 minutes then go back to sleep so when he cries, I wait to see if he really gets up.
Eventhought he knows how to sattle himself, he still gets up at night to play. I do not want to try cry it out anymore cause I feel quilty. And it hurt me real bad. I cried outside his room. It's funny isn't it that you cry in front of the door instead of go in and comfort your baby. I have many suggestions from you and I will try my best to stick with the routine. But I confuse that should I do rock until he is sleepy then put him down while he still awakes or should I let him play until he falls asleep by himself.
Leanne, he is very sensitive baby. When I open the curtain and let the sunlight go in, he wakes up immediately. When it's noisy, he can not sleep too. I'm glad that I tried cry it out. Now he knows how to sattle himself and he does not depend on prop but I can not stick with it. As I told above, I feel guity to let him cry. The only one problem is, he is a night waker. Once I start Lena's routine, it's very helpful. Yes you are right. He needs time to adjust his new routine.
I'm glad that I found this website and you guys here help and support me a lot. I'm very appreciated. Thank you very much.  :-*

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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2007, 00:37:01 am »
Hi Lena
I found the answer of my question from the links you attached. Thank you. :-*

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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2007, 03:59:36 am »
Hi Fussymom,

Glad to hear things are getting better.  I wouldn't take your lo out of his crib unless he's crying and then do shh/pat or pu/pd.  If he is able to entertain himself and self-soothe, you are heading in the right direction and he obviously is going back to sleep on his own, so I wouldn't worry about it. 

I just want to mention again that in the BW sleep training methods, it is not recommended to let the child CIO.  There are kinder and gentler methods that do not break trust as CIO.  The BW methods are to allow the child to self soothe, but for them to know that mother or father is right there for them and did not abandon them while they are in need.  Here are a few more links explaining this and the sleep methods futher.  HTH- Lena

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=63839.0

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=451.0

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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2007, 23:45:39 pm »
Hi Lena
He still gets up at 1. Last night, he cried. I tried to do shh/pat him. I stoped pat him when he stoped crying but once I stopped, he cried. I want to know if I should continue to shh/pat him until he is sleepy or should I stop when he is not cry. If I have to shh/pat him until he is sleppy, will it be new prop for him. How long should I do shh/pat him. Thank you.  :-*

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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2007, 01:36:55 am »
How long did you shh/pat after he stopped crying?  In my experience, another good 5 minutes and watching his cues for sleepiness should help you decide when to try to put him down.  You don't want him to be completely asleep, but relaxed and able to drift off on his own.  I don't think shh/pat will become a prop, although I understand your concern.  Here is yet another link explaining shh/pat better... this is on a 3 month old, but the concept is the same.  You may have to resort to pu/pd, but let's try shh/pat first.  Even though ds might still be crying, you are always there to comfort.  That is the good thing with these methods.  https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=9287.0

How is your day and the rest of the night going?  ARe you doing any more bf at night?
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2007, 03:49:54 am »
Hi Lena
I go back to bed when he sleep. I go to bed at 7 as he does. But after he goes back to bed at 3 am, I can not sleep. I'm very tired during the day but I stick with the routine strictly. Last night, I cried cause I feel like I'm a bad mom who has no parenting skill. :'( My husband told me to relax and think in positive way. He said baby needs time to adjust and he will learn someday. Yes I still feed him at night. I do dreamfeed at 9.30.
Lena, in my case, he wanted to get up and play. He wanted me to play with him. I kept his room dark and I let him see I sat next to his crib. He was good for 30 minutes then cried. Once I pat/shh him. He smiled at me and his eyes wild open. I stoped and sat next to his crib agian. He was good for 10 minutes then cried. I shh/pat him. He smiled at me and his eyes still wild open. I stoped and sat next to his crib. ( he saw me all the time ) He was good for 5 minutes and he cried agian. It had continued from 1 to 4 last night. I saw he rub his eyes since he got up for 1 hour but he did not go back to sleep. Do you have any suggestion in my case. Thank you. :'( :'( :'( :'(

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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2007, 04:08:45 am »
I know this is a hard transition and it can really wear on you.  Please don't feel like a bad mom, you are doing your best and that says a lot!  I agree with your husband too, try to relax a bit.  This unfortunately won't change overnight, but you can already see changes.  Right? 

When he wakes at night, can you put him down and then walk out (as long as he isn't crying)?  Just curious why you are sitting next to the crib.  I think that might be part of the reason he thinks its playtime-- because you are sitting there and looking like fun! :) 

I am going to post this discussion on another thread and hopefully we can get more advice to help.  This problem didn't happen overnight and it can be fixed, but it might take a couple of weeks.  So, try stepping out of the room and see how that goes. 

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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2007, 04:11:45 am »
I forgot to ask, have you read any of the Baby Whisperer books?  If not, I would recommend it as the information would start to come together better for you.   
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« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2007, 04:14:03 am »
Good evening, fussy mom!

Try not to stress...you will both figure this out...we are not born with parenting skills..we have to learn..just like they do.

I agree...if he is content...and not crying...just let him be...he will soon learn to got back to sleep on his own.

Sounds like you are both tired during the day and used to being awake at night. 

When I first started getting my little one to sleep on her own, I did shh/pat in her crib.  She was very stimulated by light and everything visual.  So when I was doing shhh/pat, I would turn her face away from mine but having her on her side facing the wall, if she was settled in her crib on her back, instead of moving her on those occasions I would hold my hand over her eyes to block out visual stimulation and so that she could not make eye contact with me.

It sounds like he's starting to enjoy the interaction with you while you are working through this with the shh/pat... Remember that you are there to help him only.  I would try not to stop the shh and the pat at the same time...It could be that you are stopping the shh/pat too early. 

This is what my shh/pat process looked like when I started, if it helps...

-wakes...fusses...leave her along
-fussing changes to crying...go into her bedroom, turn her onto her side, pat her back, shh her until her crying stops
-continue pat and shh for another 5 minutes, listening for breathing sounds that indicate she is relaxing back into sleep
-stop pat, continue shh for another 5 minutes
-if she has not started to fuss again, leave her in her crib and in her room.

I think Tracy's book says that it takes around 15 minutes for them to get into a deeper sleep cycle so I would often keep an eye on my watch while I was in there.

One more question...do you find he is always waking at 1 in the morning?  Or is it not always by the clock?

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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2007, 04:29:48 am »
Fussy mom, I don't have much to add to the advice you've already been given, but I want you to know that you're doing GREAT, and what you're going through is totally normal. It's hard and is no fun for anyone, but it's all part of the baby learning independent sleep. You're doing all the right things and you're obviously devoted to learning how to fix it rather than using a "band-aid" - meaning accidental parenting to just get through it rather than teaching.
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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2007, 05:00:59 am »
I agree with Leanne and think she's done a great job of explaining the process better.  Sorry if I didn't do as well. ;)  Please let us know how you're coming.

ColinMac'sMom is right.  This will absolutely pay off for you and your lo and you WILL be able to sleep through the night eventually. 

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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2007, 01:31:29 am »
Hi Everyone
Thank you very much for your support and cheerful. :-* I feel better now. I thought to give up but yes you are right. I have to be more patient and more relax. He can not learn from one night.
Last night, he got up at 10, 1 and 4. :'( He went to bed at 6.30 because he was very tired and cranky. He got up for palying. Once he did not see me, he cried and screamed. I tried to shh/pat him but he thought I was playing with him. I could not leave the room cause if he did not see me, he screamed and cried. I left him for 2 minutes to see if he would stop crying but he did not. I tried to pu/pd but it did not work neither. Unfortunately, the room next door came to complain. I tried to do everything to make him sleepy. Once I put him back to bed, he started crying. I was afraid my neibour would complain agian, so I let him play. What should I do next. He is very tired and it seems like he sleeps better during the day. I tried to wake him to follow the routine but he did not wake so I let him to sleep some more. Did I do the wrong thing if I let him sleep some more during the day.
Lena, No I do not have BW book. I do not see any in Thailand.
Leanne, Thank you so much for your shh/pat process. Yes he always get up by 1. Therefore, he got up at 10. Since I started Lena's routine, he gets up at 1.
Jessica, Thank you for your support and cheerful.

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« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2007, 01:42:44 am »
I am sorry you are having a rough time, but consistency is key here.  Can you talk to your neighbor and explain what you are doing?  I mean, it isn't like you are trying to have your lo scream all night.  It isn't easy, I know this.  But for this to work and you to get some REST, you have to remain consistent and not let him play.  Your lo needs to understand that night time is not playtime, and I really think the way to do it is with pu/pd.  If he thinks you are playing w/ shh/pat, then it obviously isn't working. 

Changing the routine is stressful and I understand how you've thought of giving up.  The only thing I can tell you right now is BE CONSISTENT.  And if he wants to play at night, do pu/pd.  When he is tired throughout the day, keep him on the routine.  Because when he sleeps too much during the day, he won't be tired at night and think its time to play.  Please know that we are with you during this difficult transition, but you have to remain steady and consistent for you lo to be able to make the changes too.  You have to lead him into the new routine. 

Can you order the BW book from Amazon.com or another online bookstore?

Let me know how it goes tomorrow.  ;)  Good luck.

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« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2007, 00:58:20 am »
Hi Lena
I think I just ruined his routine today.  :'( :'( :'( I was very tired in the afternoon. I took a nap and I did not get up until 5 pm. I did not hear alarm clock. My son slept from 1 to 5 pm. Once I got up, I thought I just ruined his routine and confuse him. Last night, he went to bed at 6.30 as usual. He got up at 9, went back to sleep at 11. He got up agian at 2 and went back to sleep at 4. I had to put him to stroller so he was sleepy and I could put him down. I tried to pu/pd and my good neighbor came to complain agian. I feel terrible. I feel like it's hopeless for me. I feel like it was my fault that I took a nap.  :'( :'( :'( I read all of you guys comment over and over. Maybe I should step back and think what should I do. For my neighbor, I think to cook him yummy dish and apologies to him. I hope it works. Thank you very much for your supports and suggestons. I will try my best agian today. Thanks.

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« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2007, 01:38:20 am »
Hi again Fussymom-

I've slept through the alarm too and know how that feels.  Ugh!  Today is a new day and you get to start all over again.  Please talk to your neighbor about what you're doing and why.  Tell him that this isn't going to last, but you HAVE to do this like this for now.  I am sure a yummy dish will help soften him up a bit.  It certainly isn't the best situation, but you need to nip this while you can before it gets worse when he's able to get out of bed on his own.  You have a window of opportunity here and you need to take it if you don't want to keep getting up for playtime in the middle of the night. 

Please don't think I am being hard on you as that is not my intention.  I have been in a bad place with naps and nighttime sleep and feel your pain.  And I will tell you that there is hope, but you have to follow the routine and maintain consistency w/ pu/pd.  When lo is crying during pu/pd and things are so hard, you need to know in your heart that it is the best thing for him because he's learning how to sleep on his own and also learning that nighttime is for sleep and not play. 

(((Big Hugs))) and we can start fresh again when the sun comes up.  ;)  Please let me know how its going. 

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Re: Hi from Thailand, Please help me my baby is nightwaker
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2007, 02:06:30 am »
Hi Lena
You know what ! I was crying while I read your message. ;D I feel very good and I realize I'm not lonely. I have a freind who understand me very deeply. You care and keep trying to help me and my baby  eventhought we never meet. You are very nice to me. Thank you very much. Yes, you had been though all of my situations. You can do it so do I.  :-* Thank you very much.

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« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2007, 02:22:55 am »
I am glad you do not feel alone.  You have plenty of resources here on BW and I will do my best to help you through this process.  When my son was about 5-6 months old it all came to a head and we had to go through the pu/pd process too.  He was waking every 1-2 hours at night and only falling asleep while bf.  It was rough for the first few days of pu/pd and each day it got better and better.  Now, he is 13mos old and sleeps independently and rarely wakes at night. 

I am telling you this so you know it is possible to succeed.  There are so many others with similar stories and they will all tell you the same thing.  Consistency is key and that will guide you and your lo when you feel like there isn't hope.  I promise it can get better.

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« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2007, 15:15:24 pm »
That's right, you have lots of support here  ;D  :-*  Consistency really is the key though, if you can do that you can handle anything.
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« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2007, 00:28:36 am »
Hi Lena, Leanne and Jessica
Yesterday, I could not log in. Two nights ago, my son woke up at 9, 11 and 3. I was very tired but I believe I have windown of opportunity like Lena said. Last night, my son slept from 5 pm to 7 am. AMAZING isn't it. I tried to follow Lena schedual but sometime if he was too tired, I put him to bed so he did not fight to sleep. Yesterday, I let him took 2 hours afternoon nap. And he was tired at 5 so I put to bed. I thought to give him cat nap. I took a nap too. I told my hubby to wake me up at 5.45 but he did not. He thought I was very tired so I should get some rest. He did not wake baby up to. He said if baby wanted to get up, baby would complain. I got up when my hubby went to bed. It was midnight and my son did not complain at all. I woke up to dreamfeed him. He slept very well until 7 am. Should I be happy or he might change his sleep habit agian tonight. Did he sleep too long or it's ok for him to sleep 14 hours at night. I'm very happy and you guys right, my baby can sleep thought the night too. Thank you very much for your suggestion and support. I will tell you tomorrow if he sleep thought the night tonight.  :-* :-* :-*

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Re: Hi from Thailand, Please help me my baby is nightwaker
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2007, 00:43:12 am »
YEAH!!!  Fussy mom!  you made it !  Congratulations!  There may be bumps in the road...but you have a foundation started.

You will be saved by this...mark our words!  And if things are messed up a little one day cuz he slept too long during the day...that's fine...you will get back on track the next day!

Word to the wise...DH!  This is for you!  Your baby is sleeping longer at night!  This is due to your wife's excellent efforts to teach him some essential skills of learning to sleep on his own!  Thank you for letting her sleep longer...as I'm sure she needed it...but next time she asks you to wake her and baby...and you don't want to wake her...then just wake baby and play with him quietly...giving her some extra rest!  She will thank you for it when she does wake! :)  And hugs to you too! ;)

Fussy mom!  Keep up the good work!  When he's older you can tell him all about his early sleep habits :P

Take care!
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Re: Hi from Thailand, Please help me my baby is nightwaker
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2007, 00:47:01 am »
Happy Days!  You had your first full nights sleep! Yeah!  When he woke the other night at 9,11, and 3, what did you do?  It sounds like things are looking up a little regardless, huh?  

Regarding the amount of sleep required, BW recommends two naps 1-2 hrs each and 12 hrs at night.  The cat nap is just a little boost to get through the evening.  I definitely would not let him sleep longer than 2 hrs for each nap.  You can wake him gently at the 2 hr mark because if he sleeps more than that you risk losing nighttime sleep.  

When you refer to the schedule I gave you, it is only an outline of how the average day should go.  And it is a good reference tool for you since you are just getting started on EASY.  Watching for tired signs is imperative and you absolutely did the right thing by putting him down before he got too tired.  Good job! :)

Hope tonight goes just as well. :)  I knew you could do it. :)
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« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2007, 01:31:36 am »
Hi Ladies
Thank you very much. I'm so happy and I'm so proud of my son. He can do it. After we have been trying so hard. It's worth. I would not know how to do if you guys did not give me good advises and support. I hope he will sleep through the night agian tonight.
Leane, my hubby asked me that would I be jealous if he hugs you too.  ;D He just made fun of me.
Lena, Thank you a lot for everything. When he woke up at 9, 11 and 3. I picked him up and see if he wanted to be fed. Once he did not want. I did PU/PD. About an 40 minutes, he settles down. At 11, I fed him and put him down. He played in his crib for 30 minutes and went back to sleep. At 3, I did pu/pd for 30 minutes then he settled down. During the day, I fed him very 4 hours. I put him to bed when he tried. He did not cry at all. 10 minutes after I put him down, he slept. I let him had longer nap in the morning and afternoon. When he got up, he was not cranky and ate better. He was on breasts longer than 10 minutes each side. By the way, I have more question. If he does not cry for feed at night, shoud I stop DF. Should I give up night feeding. Is he too young for no night feed. Thank you.  :-*

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« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2007, 03:10:20 am »
Fussy mom!  Glad to hear that dh is getting a laugh out of us!  That was intended to make him and you laugh...but it is partly true!  Of course...I WILL accept that hug ;)  Don't worry, fussy mom! :P  My husband is not worried...(more teasing)

Personally I did not drop the dream feed until solids were well established...and we didn't even start cereal till it was recommended at 6 months.  I think we stopped DF at 7 months...cuz she was a good eater.

Sounds like he is learning very well how to sleep and settle on his own in his crib!  Great job...you will notice that you will spend less time doing pu/pd!

Keep up the good work and I hope you have a good night again :)  You're such a great Mom!
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« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2007, 03:59:01 am »
So glad that things are starting to come together for you!  We didn't drop the dreamfeed until around 9 months, I think.  The reason that I kept it up was simply because I enjoyed the quiet time.  I think you should keep on the schedule w/ the dream feed around 10ish  until you are ready to stop it or as its recommended around 6-7 months.  That way, you should have a better idea if he is waking just for food or for something else.  At this point, I would not worry about doing anything w/ the dream feed right now.  Just continue focusing on the night wakings.  Besides, he is due for another growth spurt around the 6 month mark and he'll be wanting more bf. 

Your husband is very funny.  I am glad he is being supportive since you deserve that very much!  (((Big Hugs))) to you both!  You're doing great!

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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2007, 01:41:15 am »
Hi Lena and Leanne
Can you please give me your cheeks. I :-* :-* :-* :-*  :-* :-* your cheeks for saying THANK YOU. He slept from 5.30 to 7 agian last night. I'm so happy. I moved his bed time 30 minutes later to see if he would sleep trhough the night. Tonight, I will move bed time 45 minutes later to see what will happen. Thank you very much.   :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

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« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2007, 01:53:07 am »
Aww.. you've done such a great job!  I'm so proud of what you've been able to accomplish!  As for moving his bedtime later, try the shorter increments of 15-30 minutes at a time.  That way, he'll be able to adjust better.  :D  I'm so happy for you!  Your hubby must be very pleased too!  Congrats!
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« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2007, 16:01:58 pm »
Wow fussy mom, that's absolutely fantastic!!! You really turned things around fast!
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