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13 months and still taking sippy during the night
« on: May 19, 2007, 18:16:08 pm »
My dd is 13 months old.  We did not hear about BW until she was almost 11 months old.  I think I we now have a daily routine that works for her, but she still wakes up 1 time a night to drink a sippy of milk.  I have watered it down she is taking 2 oz. of milk and 2 oz. of water.  She never wakes up at the same time.  Does this mean she is really hungry or is she using the sippy as a prop?  When I first started EASY I wanted to get Emily to nap better.  Now I don't know about the nights.  She is only up for 5-10 minutes, but she goes to a full blown cry quickly.  I have tried shh/pat, but that only made her more angry. 

Our day looks like this
7-7:30 awake
8:00 breakfast (I have not been giving milk early in the day because she is getting it at night)
10:00- snack  and water
11:30-12:00- lunch/sippy of milk before stories
12:30 Nap
2:30-3:00 wake up from nap
3:00 snack and water
5:30-6:00 dinner
6:00 bath/PJ's
7:00 oatmeal snack
7:30 bed

Emily usually does not wake up the at the same time 2 nights in a row and never more than 2 nights!!

Any advice would be great!!!
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Re: 13 months and still taking sippy during the night
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2007, 12:14:15 pm »
Well I totally failed last night.  My husband and I were ready to see just what Emily could do.  She did cry for about one minute.  Then she settled back down.  This was around 4.  An hour later she was still not asleep.  She would get settled and almost to sleep and then whine again.  Never a real cry just a whine.  At the hour mark I went in and gave her 2 oz of watered down milk.  She then went straight back to sleep.  She is just now starting to wake up at 8:15. 

I just see how much sleep she is loosing and cave in.  Is it normal for her to take so long to fall back asleep while changing from milk during the night?  The the amt of time shorten?
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Re: 13 months and still taking sippy during the night
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2007, 18:00:20 pm »
I need some advice on what to do tonight?  Should I let her stay on her own?  She was not at a real cry stage, just a whine.  But, she was still not asleep after an hour? 
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Re: 13 months and still taking sippy during the night
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2007, 18:07:18 pm »
can you try to squeeze a sippy in before bed?
My almost 14 month old has a big sippy before bed. I should knock on wood though, because she always woke up at least once for a bottle and/or sippy and has only been recently sleeping through the night. My schedule is something like this. I know we are all different though.

wake anywhere between 6am and 7am.
I try to give her baby oatmeal with pears right away so she doesn't beg for sippy
than sippy

than 9am, I sit her in the chair and give her morning snacks like apples, pears, banannas and try giving her some cheesy scrambled eggs. She's a very picky eater but has been doing better lately.

than before nap...sometimes about an hour before the nap and sometimes closer to the nap - a sippy
she takes a decent 2 hour nap

than around 1:30/2:30pm I try giving her lunch.
Than sippy. But I am trying to get her to eat yogurt and/or pudding to replace the sippy

Than at some point between 4 and 5:30pm supper and sippy.

than sippy before bed. I let her drink a BIG sippy before bed.

I know sounds like a lot of sippys, but sometimes she only drinks 3-4 oz now during a sippy session. The only big one is before bed which can be as much as 9 oz. I try to bring her up to bed "after sippy" at around 7pm. Sometimes sooner and sometimes a little later. She takes anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour to fall asleep.

That is average lately.
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Re: 13 months and still taking sippy during the night
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2007, 18:24:53 pm »
I have only been giving her 5-6 oz of milk.  I will try more tonight. 

How did you get her to stop waking up for the milk?  Or did she stop on her own?  That has been my hope all along, but not sure anymore.
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Re: 13 months and still taking sippy during the night
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2007, 23:04:16 pm »
I think switcing from bottles to sippys, eating a little bit more, and probably just on her own...did she start sleeping through the night.

It hasn't been for long though. I also would mix water in with her milk at night. Tried just water a few times but she wanted none of that. IT really would interfere with her eating schedule the next day too. I'm trying to think. This was her sippy intake today.

morning sippy after breakfast - only had 3 oz

sippy before nap. At least 5 if not 6 oz

sippy in late afternoon like 3:30 ish. She wouldn't hold off and I had already tried giving her lunch and got her to eat pudding and really tried to get her to skip the afternoon one. forget it come 3:30pm she wanted a sippy. She drank a good 5 or 6 oz

Than after dinner which was around 6pm - she drank a 3 oz sippy.

Than 9 oz sippy before bed.

My battle and yes I know some people say try to ween her off the milk more. Which isn't easy. My battle has been solids. I'm not going to get into it 'lol'. There are probably a million threads about my daughter going on strike with eating that started at around 7 months of age.

of course ear infections always screws everything up. And in the past she has slept through the night to only start waking up again wanting a bottle/sippy a few weeks later. It's like everytime I think FINALLY it never lasts. Maybe this time it will though.
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Re: 13 months and still taking sippy during the night
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2007, 00:07:10 am »
Emily had 5 oz. around 6:00 and 7oz. right before bed. I really think she would drink as much milk as I would allow.  I think I'll try to water the sippy down more tonight.  I will give her 20 minutes or so to try to get settled and then go in.  I just hate to think of her missing sleep just for an oz. or 2 of milk.  I know it might be a prop.  I also read about switching to only water and putting the sippy in the crib.  Not sure if she would go for that though.  Thanks for your help!!!!
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Re: 13 months and still taking sippy during the night
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2007, 02:03:52 am »
Just going to pop this over to Toddler Sleep...
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Re: 13 months and still taking sippy during the night
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2007, 03:30:35 am »
I agree completely...it sounds like the sippy has become a prop. I would doubt it is so much hunger at night as it is a habit or familiar night routine that she is now used to. I say this because she is only taking 4 oz. diluted, which as the PP mentioned is not much nutritionally. Also, she is 13 months, and really only needs 16-18 oz of milk per day (including milk products) and nothing at night.

The best way to address this issue is to be consistent. You can either continue to water down the milk every few days until it is just water and then nothing, or you can go to nothing right now. IMHO you would be better off just going straight to nothing, as at 13 months trying to slowly water it down could just lead to a long drawn out process. Also,I'm sure she is very aware and bright at 13 months, and at some point she is going to realize what is going on and resist. So why not just deal with the resistance now? I know you mentioned in a previous post that you hate to see her miss sleep over just an ounce or two of milk, but if you think long term, waking every night for the milk is more detrimental to a good night's sleep that a week or two of training so that she sleeps through every night (minus the normal brief wakings that all toddlers have of course)

If she wakes in the night I would not offer the sippy, or even have it anywhere in sight. If she is just whining I would leave her be. If it turns into outright crying you can use one of Tracey's methods to provide support while allowing her to fall back asleep on her own. I know that it can be very difficult, she may even be up for hours the first few nights, but if you consistently do this for 1-2 weeks you will likely see a real improvement! Just remember that she is used to one way of doing things, and at 13 months she will resist, and resist strongly at first, so you just need to be willing to really give it a chance to work. I think you will be pleasantly surprised! HTH


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Re: 13 months and still taking sippy during the night
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2007, 03:45:21 am »
Agree with everything pp's said. Its more likely habit than hunger. I would forget the botte at night.

Here's the link to sleep training methods for toddlers: https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=63896.0

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Re: 13 months and still taking sippy during the night
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2007, 11:41:37 am »
Yes, please keep in mind my LO drinks more milk than the average. Something the doctor knows and probably people on baby whisperer "lol". I've had and have a heck of a time getting her to eat well and consistently. Better these days though, but still over the average with the milk. In addition, some of the only foods she'll eat are milk based products like yogurts and puddings. She has been sleeping through the night though and is eating better. At least this week "lol". Some days her milk intake is less. I think she's more of a 25 oz average per day child right now. When I toook her to the 1 year appointment they said 25 was average. That was my doctor though.

Anyways, for you.....I was also thinking on the lines of subtracting an oz or two during the day so that before bed you can give her one nice big sippy. 

Did she sleep through the night last night after drinking a big sippy before bed??
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Re: 13 months and still taking sippy during the night
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2007, 11:58:31 am »
Wow thanks for all the advice.  As for last night, we put Emily to bed at 7:30 and she was not asleep until 8:30.  She is a spirited baby and played at her grandparents all afternoon.  I just think it took her a while to wind down.  She always goes to sleep on her own at first.  Then she woke up at 3:45.  It was an all out cry.  She was up jumping in the crib.  I went in and gave her the watered down milk, but no rocking.  She went back to sleep until 7.


I will review the sleep strategies.  My only question this morning is... We are going out of town this weekend.  Should I continue to do what we are doing and start fresh next Monday or start now and possibly have a break in the training, as she does not sleep as well away from home?


Ladies, thanks again for your thoughts!!!!
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Re: 13 months and still taking sippy during the night
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2007, 16:49:21 pm »
Well last night I decided just to sit back and see what Emily could do on her own.  I think I under-estimate her sometimes.  She woke up around 3:00.  She did her usual 1 minute cry and then settled down.  It did take her about an hour to go back to sleep. She was not crying.  She was making noises though.  Anyway, the point is EMILY DID NOT HAVE ANY MILK DURING THE NIGHT!!!!  Yeah, Emily!!!  It is my hope that gradually she will start to go back to sleep quicker.  I am still not sure what to do about this week end.  We will all be staying in one room.  When she sees me she wants me to come.  Should I only pu/pd and no milk?  Or should I get her back to sleep quickly as not to disturb the others?
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Re: 13 months and still taking sippy during the night
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2007, 18:59:51 pm »
Yay Emily  :D!!!

Forget the milk altogether. Just do pd (she's too old for pu).... Here's the link for sleep traiing methods for toddlers

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Re: 13 months and still taking sippy during the night
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2007, 12:08:33 pm »
I am still having a hard time telling Em's cries/mantra.  Do toddlers still have a mantra cry?  Last night she went through stages of loud/quiet noises.  DH was off last night and neither of us thought she was really crying.  She was laying on her belly making noises, so we did not go in.  It only took  her 45 minutes to get back to sleep last night.  2 NIGHTS W/O  A BOTTLE!!!!

Is it ok that I did not go in?   I don't want to leave her to cry, nor do I want to go in when she is able to handle sleeping on her own.
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