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Lost the plot at 5months old
« on: June 20, 2007, 09:14:30 am »
Hello!

I am really hoping someone out there can help us, as I feel as though I have completely lost the plot on our routine!

We had a lovely 3-hourly EASY routine, then moved to 4-hourly EASY nearly a month ago, which went fine (2 naps of 1.5-2hrs, plus catnap, etc).  We've battled 45 minute naps on and off since Katie was 7 weeks old, but I could usually get her back to sleep when she woke up at 45 mins.  So we were doing fine overall. Katie can get to sleep on her own, doesn't have a dummy or any props, and feeds well (BF).

Then the last week or so it's all gone to pieces!  Katie has started waking at 5 or 6am, perfectly happy and playing with her feet and talking to herself. Often she does not get back to sleep by 7am (our usual getting up time and when I feed her).  She's then tired early, so has a nap early, then gets 45 minute naps for which I can no longer get her back to sleep, so we end up with 2hr A time BEFORE the feed, and we end up with feeds before naps, and no routine whatsoever!

It's really getting me down as I feel I can't arrange to meet anyone or do anything as I have no idea when Katie will be awake or asleep (previously I could arrange to meet friends for coffee etc as I could predict pretty well when S and A would be...) and we end up either with an overtired Katie by bedtime or a Katie who has had an extra nap too late so can't get to sleep.  I am also only getting about 4-5 hours sleep a night between the 11pm feed and Katie waking up at 4-5am. Groan! I had more sleep when she was a newborn.

Our "routine" is something like this:

5-6am Katie wakes up happy and playing in her cot. Sometime she wakes earlier at 3 or 4am but then will talk to herself for a bit then go back to sleep on her own.
7am get up and feed
when she gets tired - morning nap, anywhere between 45 mins and 1.5 hrs. Usually manages 1-1.5 hrs. 
11am feed
then when she gets tired - afternoon nap - again anwhere between 45 mins and 1.5 hours. Often 45 mins this time.
3pm feed
catnap when she gets tired - sometimes it's right after the feed!
then we sometimes still have 3 hrs to go till bedtime, sometimes only an hour...
7pm bedtime (a bit earlier if she's tired, a bit later if she clearly isn't...)
11pm feed

Our A times are 2hrs to 2hrs 15 mins. She's generally a happy baby!

So I guess I have several questions:

1. Any ideas how I can get some kind of routine going again and avoid feeding before naps - it's not a habit I want to get into
2. If I feed Katie when she wakes up at 4-5am, she will generally go back to sleep (I've tried it once or twice out of desperation when I have really needed the sleep!) - but again this is not a habit I want to get into as I do think it's good she's happy to amuse herself in her cot for a while. However should I start feeding her just so that we both get some sleep? Or should we just start our day at 5am (groan)?
3. I am concerned that Katie isn't getting enough sleep - about 13 hrs in a 24 hour period, which seems rather low for her age - is she overtired, and if so what do I about it?!

And indeed any other suggestions?!

Thanks in advance  :)

Bryony
« Last Edit: June 20, 2007, 09:41:57 am by Katiesmummy (Bryony) »


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Re: Lost the plot at 5months old
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2007, 23:34:25 pm »
I eagerly await any suggestions as well, my lo is in a similar predicament.
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Re: Lost the plot at 5months old
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2007, 12:06:43 pm »
When she wakes do you go into her room?  If so, that may be causing her to then stay awake because she thinks it's time to start the day.  At around 4-5 months a lot of los begin waking up at that time to play and then, if they aren't disturbed, go back to sleep happily on their own. It's a crazy phase that will go away if they don't get into a pattern of someone coming in and getting them up, etc.

How long has she been with out any night feeds? 

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Re: Lost the plot at 5months old
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2007, 12:27:09 pm »
Thanks Melissa!

I sleep in Katie's room (as per UK SIDS recommendations - till they are 6mo) but lie there quiet as a mouse in my bed and don't give her any attention unless she is really upset - usually she fidgets around, talks to herself, shuffles, farts and grizzles on and off from 4am till about 6:30am when she finally gets bored and starts crying for me.  I ignore her till then...  so I don't think it's due to me giving her any attention.  I wish I could train my brain not to wake me up till she starts crying, as she doesn't need me till then - but I wake up as soon as she does...!

She started consistently going without a night feed 2 months ago - we've had the occastional night feed since but most nights she goes from 11pm till 7am without a feed.

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Re: Lost the plot at 5months old
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2007, 13:27:33 pm »
It's hard to not wake when they do....that's why Grace only lasted in our room (in the bassinet) for less than a week  ;)  I just couldn't sleep and then we banned the monitors as well....he, he.  ;D  I guess I have extra sensitive mommy ears.

After your description of what you have been doing and such it sounds like something might need to be adjusted to her routine.  I will have time later this evening too really look it over (I have two monkeys to watch during the day...one mine, one someone else's so my Y time is a bit non-existant  ;)).  Hopefully before then other mom's will be on to check out your situation and will be able to give you some great advice. 

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Re: Lost the plot at 5months old
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2007, 13:32:18 pm »
Here are a few links that may help you out some....

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=87109.0

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=52878.0

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=63059.0

https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=68057.0

Also, has she started rolling more or trying to sit, etc?  Sometimes new milestones cause some crazy wakings.

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Re: Lost the plot at 5months old
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2007, 13:59:41 pm »
Thanks Melissa - have had a look at those posts. Only one that seems like a possible is teething - she's dribbling even more than usual, and knawing on things. Am trying teething gel before each nap today and will use it tonight to see if it helps. Otherwise no new milestones - it's all a bit of a mystery!

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