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Re: Custard - milk or formula for BF baby
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2007, 21:51:10 pm »
i thought the no cows milk until one year theory was about not replacing your ff/bf with milk, but in recipes ok?  its just that custard is mainly milk that i was curious esp as i don't use formula....thanks for all the info...
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Re: Custard - milk or formula for BF baby
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2007, 17:03:36 pm »
They do say it, but they also accept weaning from 4.5 months which is too early for most everybody else consulted!

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Re: Custard - milk or formula for BF baby
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2007, 21:57:43 pm »
confusing hey!  so i should stop the milk on the cereal and start pumping again................
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Re: Custard - milk or formula for BF baby
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2007, 22:07:09 pm »
Aleesa,

I believe that full-fat cows milk is fine for use in food preparation, as long as it doesn't constitute a baby's main milk drink - I mean, how much are we talking here? A couple of oz on breakfast or in custard? Not worth pumping for - surely?

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Re: Custard - milk or formula for BF baby
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2007, 22:20:42 pm »
That's what I thought Freya - but there are so much conflicting info.  She seems fine, but how do you know if they get anemia?  I'm going to my dr (gp, not paed) on Monday so i might ask there.....
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Re: Custard - milk or formula for BF baby
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2007, 03:05:49 am »
Aleesa, if it makes you feel better, I started giving mashed potatoes with milk and used either water or cow's milk in cereal (breastmilk made it way to runny) at around your dd's age and we never had any problem. It is so confusing being a parent because we never hear the same from anyone.
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Re: Custard - milk or formula for BF baby
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2007, 10:49:21 am »
It is confusing indeed, being a parent.  Ali Mac, there,s no doubt that the amount of milk given has an influence and that it is not the same that the child gets 2 ounces of cow,s milk or 20 ounces, the second quantity would undoubtedly have a bigger influence.

However, one should "count" ALL milk given to a baby (or all of everything) as milk intake (for that matter, also yogurt or cheese) when one wants to know the real intake for nutritional reasons.  A couple of ounces on the cereal, is one thing.  8 ounces total in the day (custard, white sauces, cereal) is a different thing. 

Remember I was replying to a mother who uses formula already; expressing breastmilk is a real pain in the neck and while it remains the main source of milk for the baby probably the odd two ounces really do not count.  However, if you are already using formula, there,s no big hassle in mixing it with boiling water for use in custards, or cereals, just boiling the water and mixing it,  and therefore do not see what is the advantage of using cows milk before one year.  Not that having a mild anemia is going to be dangerous for your child or anything, it is just that if you already used formula, why not continue for a few months instead of using cow,s milk (or water) to mix with the cereal?   

As I said before, cultural differences are important.  One thing I,ve learnt reading these pages is the difference on how cereals are introduced in UK or US; dry, mixed with water, mixed with fruit rather than mixed with the formula you were already using (exception again being breastfed babies, of course, because mixing formula would be adding a hassle to your life).  After all, making mother,s life easier also counts for the well being of your baby!

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Re: Custard - milk or formula for BF baby
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2007, 04:19:48 am »
Goat's milk is very close to human milk in constitution. I would use it for custard. I had an allergy baby and used coconut milk in my recipes. I also used canned pumpkin or baby food to replace milk depending on what I was cooking. (banana blueberry baby food makes really good pancakes)
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Re: Custard - milk or formula for BF baby
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2007, 05:27:32 am »
Yeh it's amazing what you can use babyfood for!! The vege ones are great spread on bread.

Coconut milk is great mixed iwth pureed fruit then frozen into iceblocks once they are older too.

In the end I opted for the full fat cow's milk in the custard.  She only has a cube or two at a time and she seems find so far with all the foods I have given her.
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Re: Custard - milk or formula for BF baby
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2007, 02:59:48 am »
BTW the anemia is caused because babies who are given cow's milk cannot digest it and that somehow causes bleeding in the intestines. Cooking cow's milk breaks down the protiens...some people who are allergic can have it cooked....so I would think this particular reason for avoiding cow's milk would not apply. Besides, it's not like she eats custard three times a day....right? ;D
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Re: Custard - milk or formula for BF baby
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2007, 03:13:55 am »
right ;D

I will remember that though about the cooked milk.  She has uncooked milk on her cereal in the morning - probably a tablespoon.
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Re: Custard - milk or formula for BF baby
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2007, 18:51:14 pm »
Okey dokey - in the UK the health visitors are currently advising that cow's milk can be used in food preparation from 4 months (if parents choose to introduce solid foods at that age) - I struggle with the idea that they would advocate the use of a substance that is known to cause anaemia thru bleeding in the stomach due to inability to digest - however I'll check it out with Eryn's health visitor next weigh in and clarify!

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Re: Custard - milk or formula for BF baby
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2007, 19:39:03 pm »
Yes, well, american doctors do NOT say the anemia is caused by any bleeding in the stomach, actually they say they DO NOT KNOW why babies between 6/12 months who take cow,s milk (I assume, instead of formula, so in high quantity) present a lower blood count.   

It is also hard to believe that during years and years doctors in all good faith recommended that small babies slept on their tummies to avoid sufocation, but they did.  I do not know who was brave enough to experiment with some children on that position and others on their backs but.... on their backs was better.

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Re: Custard - milk or formula for BF baby
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2007, 19:56:03 pm »
We saw a dietician (UK) when we saw the paed for his reflux and she said full fat cow's milk was fine on cereal and in sauces/custard etc so that's what we are doing, in total I doubt if he gets more than 4oz per day. I did make a cheese sauce with cow & gate comfort the first time I tried it - it was nasty  :-X, mind you LO didn't seem to mind!

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Re: Custard - milk or formula for BF baby
« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2007, 17:43:04 pm »
For you it was nasty, but not for your baby! It is always interesting to note what babies will like or dislike...and funny, sometimes,  ;).  I,m sure that the amount you take does make a difference on the possible reactions (of full cows milk) and that cooking with it is not the same at all as substituting all the intake...and 6 months probably is not the same as 11, either.  In these things one cannot be a fundamentalist, and it always pays to observe your particular child reactions to food (and to everything, really).