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Re: anyone want to chat about the 2-1 nap switch , thread#2
« Reply #270 on: August 29, 2007, 19:00:08 pm »
We go in and lay him down when he's making a real fuss, but otherwise try and leave him to it as much as possible. Have learned that going in too often just makes the whole process longer. Certainly wouldn't be able to cope with over an hour if I needed to be in his room!

Cindy - glad to hear you had a successful 1 nap day, long may it continue!
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Re: anyone want to chat about the 2-1 nap switch , thread#2
« Reply #271 on: August 30, 2007, 17:06:03 pm »
I'm wondering if I'm pushing ds too hard to go to 1 nap? 

He's super tired when he goes down, but settles quickly.  He slept 1.5 hours yesterday and I have him an early bedtime last night.  He did wake up once, which is unusual, but I thought it was a little soon to have OT night wakings. 

He's napping now, I'll see how it goes today.

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Re: anyone want to chat about the 2-1 nap switch , thread#2
« Reply #272 on: August 30, 2007, 17:16:02 pm »
I've been reading and keeping up with all of you....

I  get the feeling some of you are really stressed out right now???



don't know how much i can help, but im here for some questions.


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Re: anyone want to chat about the 2-1 nap switch , thread#2
« Reply #273 on: August 30, 2007, 18:15:26 pm »
We had a really good day today.  Had 2 days of 5.30 wakings 1st day did a 45min nap  :( next day a broken 1.15hr nap.  Today woke at 6am, nap 11-12.30 solid  ;D ;D ;D bed at 6pm. 20mins later and shes fidgeting and not going to sleep  ??? STUPID MUMMY forgot to give her Calpol for teeth after dinner.  Quick dose of medicine and 20mins later was asleep.  Really hope I haven't just undone the best day we've had for about.... 2 months  ::)

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Re: anyone want to chat about the 2-1 nap switch , thread#2
« Reply #274 on: August 30, 2007, 19:04:13 pm »
 :o :o :o

Holy Cow!  DS just woke after a 2.25 hour nap!

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Re: anyone want to chat about the 2-1 nap switch , thread#2
« Reply #275 on: August 30, 2007, 19:39:36 pm »
Well it sounds like both of your lo's are doing a fab job sleeping!


Mine just woke up at 1.5hrs......???


We haven't had a nap this length in awhile....but i know she only woke because my back hurts!  Argh!


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Re: anyone want to chat about the 2-1 nap switch , thread#2
« Reply #276 on: August 30, 2007, 20:01:08 pm »
Well, I have officially stopped obsessing about Ollie's sleep. I promised myself that I would stop writing down every detail of his sleep/wake patterns and calculating total sleep / A times blah blah blah (on my super-ridiculous spreadsheet LOL!) once things started to settle and that's worked out as 10 weeks after I started keeping a record of everything  :o

Just to give those of you that are still battling some hope - we've been on 7-7:30am wakeups for two weeks now (and jumped from 5:30 wakeups in the space of a couple of days), have had  3 out of the last 4 nights with NO NW and we even had a 2.75 hr nap yesterday!! Some days his naps are crap, some days he takes bloody ages to fall asleep, but he seems to be finding his own ways to compensate and catch up so the OT demon has finally been beaten (for now anyway!).

New baby due any day now so broken nights will be here again in no time!!! I must be mad!!
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Re: anyone want to chat about the 2-1 nap switch , thread#2
« Reply #277 on: August 30, 2007, 20:31:57 pm »
Thats really terrific news. 

If baby arrives before we post again, I hope everything goes really well.  Thanks so much for all your help ;D ;D ;D

All the best
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Please help with 15 month old naps.... Going crazy!
« Reply #278 on: August 30, 2007, 21:41:22 pm »
I am about to go crazy with my son!  Here is his usual routine...

Awake 7/730
Nap 1015-1045
Lunch 12
Nap 130-330
Bedtime 730

He just turned 15 months.  For the past week or so, he has spent over an hour playing in his crib for the AM nap.... if he isn't asleep by 11, I go in and get him.  But today, for instance, he was so fussy during lunch and fell asleep at 1245.... awake at 2.... Ugh.  What am I supposed to do?  He will be so OT by bedtime. 

I have found that it is best for all of us, if he goes into his crib in the AM anyway.  Weather he sleeps or not... he plays quietly, and seems a tiny bit rested.  Do I eliminate that all together and just put him down for one nap after lunch?  Do I give him lunch early?  Do I let him sleep later in the AM?  I usually wake him by 730, but sometimes he is up around 7. 

Any insight will help.  I am beginning to feel like a failure... like I just can't get this one right.  He THRIVES on a routine and does so great... but it seems so unpretictable lately.  How do I deal with this transition and what am I supposed to do?
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Re: anyone want to chat about the 2-1 nap switch , thread#2
« Reply #279 on: August 30, 2007, 23:37:38 pm »
Brenda - please don't feel like a failure!  There is a reason that there are so many of us on here discussing and trying to figure things out...this is a tough transition!

If he doesn't take a morning nap, you'll need to offer the afternoon nap sooner so he doesn't get overtired.  Then, bedtime will need to be sooner too, for a while until he gets used to 1 nap.  Some here have had luck with offering 1 nap some days and 2 naps every few days to get caught up so they don't get OT.

Maybe do 1 nap about 4.5h after he wakes in the morning, and then you might need to do bedtime as early as 6:00ish depending on how long his nap is!

Hang in there!


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Re: anyone want to chat about the 2-1 nap switch , thread#2
« Reply #280 on: August 31, 2007, 01:17:03 am »

[, but he seems to be finding his own ways to compensate and catch up ]

I just did a quote for the first time.  I hope I did it right.

MommaHolmes, I've also found that to be the case with my LO, he is able to catch up much more than he used to.  Also I can COMPLETELY identify with obsessing about LO's sleep.  LOL :P

Best wishes to you and hope all goes well with the birth baby #2!

Cindy

Brenda, hang in there.  M and N's mom gave good advice!


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Re: anyone want to chat about the 2-1 nap switch , thread#2
« Reply #281 on: August 31, 2007, 01:17:39 am »
Not sure if this is typical around this age, but my ds is getting a bit more cranky.  I don't understand if it is OT as he is getting decent amount of sleep (no less than before).  He has become so very clingy to Mummy over the past week and tears have been shed...he wasn't a crier until now.  When he is within arms reach of mummy, all is well.  this doesn't seem like separation anxiety...we've already been down that road.  Is anyone else going thru this? 
 
Oh, another question... does anyone have an lo who has early 2 yr molars coming in?  Is it possible for them to come in this early?  He keeps a hand deep in his mouth alot these days with drooling (i thought we were done with that!).  All other teeth are in.

I am proud to say we took the next step from 3 single nap days in a row to 4 with success!  I know some are saying so what, but it is a big deal for us (or perhaps just me?!)

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Re: anyone want to chat about the 2-1 nap switch , thread#2
« Reply #282 on: August 31, 2007, 01:18:00 am »
Rats.  I just saw that I didn't do the quote right...

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Re: anyone want to chat about the 2-1 nap switch , thread#2
« Reply #283 on: August 31, 2007, 09:29:03 am »
Hi there

My DD is 14 months.  She started refusing the PM nap at about 10 months.  I tried shortening the AM nap to 45 mins, 30 mins etc, but it only worked for a few days then she’d refuse it again.   I ended up driving her around in the car for the PM nap etc etc.   I tried just one nap, and I chopped and changed, I got so frustrated.   On 2 naps she just wouldn’t go down at night, it took ages.  She would be hyper.  Yet on one nap she’d go straight to sleep.    So a couple of weeks ago I decided to go with one nap and see what happened.  The naps were often only 1hr or 1:15.  I gather that means she’s overtired.  But she went straight to sleep at nap time and bedtime.  No fuss.   Woke at night 2-3x but she does that anyway and I feed if she won’t resettle. (AP I know, but I’m planning to wean that  :) ).  I did a really early bedtime – asleep by 6pm.     

Well my problem is that now that she’s started doing a longer nap – (1:25, 1:40, 2 hrs) I’m really confused about when to put her down at night.  I thought she could stay up a bit later so was aiming for asleep by 6.30 or 7 at latest.  But she seems wired.  Earlier or later, still not interested in going to sleep.  I can’t figure out if she’s OT or not tired enough. She’s not interested in reading books, wants to climb all over the bed where we sit etc.    I ended up breastfeeding her again the other night just to get her to sleep (AP I know).   I was annoyed at myself so got DH to put her down the last few nights but she’s still insisting on a feed again before sleep!!  So I end up going in again.   If he or I try to put her down she just cries, reaches up wanting a feed.  It seems as if she’s now got a “feed to sleep” association!!  How can this have happened so quickly?  Before all this hassle, I could put her down and walk out.   Even those times when she had 2 naps and wouldn’t settle, she would roll around in the cot, I stayed in the room and she eventually went to sleep.   She did have SA quite badly, esp after learning to walk, but I think it’s disappearing.

I’m wondering if I’m putting her down too early or too late?   Does anyone have guidelines on ‘A’ time after one nap?  She wakes at 7, down for nap about 12. 

I gather that 1:15 hr means they’re overtired.  What’s the cut-off point when it means they’re not overtired?  Is any nap length considered undertired?   DD just won’t go down these days if she’s not tired though.

I’m so frustrated.  This feed to sleep thing is got me worried.  I’ve avoided that so far. I know I’ve AP’d and done it out of desperation some nights when she just wouldn’t settle, but never fed her all the way to sleep. And the next night I could always go back to our normal way of going to sleep.  She’s never “asked” for it as such until now.

Any suggestions welcome!

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Re: anyone want to chat about the 2-1 nap switch , thread#2
« Reply #284 on: August 31, 2007, 10:35:47 am »
Hi I'm no expert on whens best to put LO down etc, as I got in a proper pickle with this transition.  But I can relate to the bedtime problems. 

The way I see it is that suddenly they clued up more than you realise and actually are starting to learn how to manipulate us.  They are having loads of fun during the day and what LO wants to go to bed when they can be with mummy or daddy or both.  So they figure out the best way to put off bedtime. 

For us it started with constantly asking for a drink, then she introduced needing a poo, but never did anything, medicine (calpol and bonjela for teething) even tho she'd had it already.  When all these failed she just plain refused to let me leave the room, doing some pretty convincing crying to keep me there too.  I have to touch her for her to go to sleep.  I have worked on it and can now put her back down for naps and leave wait till shes asleep then I shut the door, however bedtime she is holding onto and so far I'm stuck with keeping a hand on her till she falls asleep. 

I don't consider this AP as I know full well what I'm doing and its no accident, but for now it gets her to sleep and as shes not yet taking a good 1 nap but wont do 2 naps my main aim is just to get her to sleep at night before she gets too OT.

Not sure hows best to deal with your LO's demands, really its whatever your comfortable doing.  If you want to stop it going further then you just have to get tuff and not give in too demands, but if, like me, LO's sleep is currently more important then do what you have too.  Once her routine is more settled again you can then sort out any AP.

HTH