Help me and my 11 mth old get back on track

[ZacsMumme]

11.30 if I go for 4hrs15....

[Ima shel Alon]

I meant to put him 30min later than what you usually put him now and see if it helps with the BT refusal.
But on the other hand if you are going now for one nap then your day will anyway need to be on the short side to prevent OT...

[ZacsMumme]

Ok, if I have to do a CN then ill give him some more A to BT. Aim for 2.5-2hrs40 rather than 2-2.15?

Your probably right...I'm in constant fear of OT

If we get a long nap and can do a 1 nap day ill do 4.5-5 to BT, and hope he can cope.

[ZacsMumme]

He slept over 2 hrs! And I got tired signs! (We were at the park all morning)
So nap 11.25-1.35
Ill go for BT 6-6.15

[Ima shel Alon]

That's great, Sara! WTG T! I hope that the night goes well and that you can just stick now with one nap and just have a CN whenever needed.

[ZacsMumme]

I dunno Noa...las night was crap for him though...
BT 6.10 - cried and wouldn't settle till 6.25
NW 40 min,then a few stirs.
NW and feed at 10.30 and again at 5am. (5am feed just to get him back to sleep) but now I don't know what to do as he is still sleeping! It's 7.10

Not sure if I should use through or OT. I if he does sleep in go for smother - nap day and hope he adjusts (this is what we did in the 3-2) or if I should just regulate him a bit more for more 2 nap days?

This feeding at night is so embarrassing ... I want to ditch it but DH doesn't and I can't bear ditching them and dealing with the NW witout it on my own ATM

* update woke at 7.35/40

[ZacsMumme]

So today was a good day...
Nap 11.55-2.15
BT 6.35 (DH did and he did a little protest for about 10 secs then nothing...)

So fx for tonight. Expecting a 2 nap day tomorrow but we will see.

What signs do I need to look for for cumulated OT?

[babybarr]

U may find putting him back on 2 naps even just for a day or 2 doesn't work that was our experience anyway. I'd do early bed if he seems tired or you may find he falls asleep in the car or something then you just wing two naps best you can. However pleased he's doing a longer nap it's bliss isn't it?!

[ZacsMumme]

Night not going so great woke at 9.20 and has been up and down for an hour I can't tell of it's teething or OT. Useless aren't I

[babybarr]

I can't tell of it's teething or OT. Useless aren't I

No you're not!  I'd bet teething.

How does OT normally manifest with him?

[ZacsMumme]

I always thought he coped well with OT and in the past if he ever appeared OT he slept better than ever ie LNG night less NW. But tonight...ugh. He settled after an hour. For 40 mins! Now he's up screaming. I hate this...he is the worlds worst sleeper and Im so over it. He settles independently so I just don't know what else to do with him. I'm getting so angry. he's STTN like 8 times EVER.

I know he's teething, he has 2 top about to cut and a bottom left, but seriously...he has had pain meds. Hs had teething gel. What else can I do? He won't settle unless I move, and I can't. Physically I'm rooted from all this, I have back and neck pain that is now constant.

Sorry I'm having a poor me moment. Its11.35pm and I want to sleep. DH is angry, I'm angry and Tom is wide awake

[babybarr]

I get it. I totally do. No need to apologize. What's going on with his reflux at the mo? I def think he's poorly or somethings not right. The waking after one sleep cycle tells me that. Just do whatever you need to to get him to sleep and worry about it tomorrow. Hugs.

[Ima shel Alon]

I agree with Laura, it sounds like discomfort. And I agree with that too:

U may find putting him back on 2 naps even just for a day or 2 doesn't work that was our experience anyway. I'd do early bed if he seems tired or you may find he falls asleep in the car or something then you just wing two naps best you can.

The other thing to remember with the 2-1 transition is that there is always OT, one can't avoid it and it does take time and this OT for them to get used to it.
I am really sorry things have been so hard for you. Hugs, hun.

[ZacsMumme]

Ok had a coffee, feeling less frantic about it all
I 'know' in my heart when he is like this it's usually trouble ie pain. But my head just tells me otherwise he STTN till morning at least once asleep again around 12. So WU was 7.15. Ill try to keep him up for 11.30 nap and cross my fingers for a good one.

I just feel a bit deflated as we had a STTN, good naps and our first BT without a battle in ages YK? I kind of hoped we were on the up...then this.

I get it. I totally do. No need to apologize. What's going on with his reflux at the mo? I def think he's poorly or somethings not right. The waking after one sleep cycle tells me that. Just do whatever you need to to get him to sleep and worry about it tomorrow. Hugs.

your 100% right with the 40 mins...I tell everyone else it's pain, but I can't see it myself.  His reflux is ok, but today he is hiccuping a lot, this tells me teething. Is the only time both he and Z hiccup once their reflux was controlled. I'm meant to be meds weaning. But I can't. I'm terrified. He is never well enough long enough to do so.

Thanks for the reminder Noa. So...keep pushing through for now!

[ZacsMumme]

Ok, definately teething!
Nap 11.30-12.30 crying/whimpering. Gave teething gel and held for next 30 mins. Woke 15 mins later 12.35-1.15/20

He then fell asleep in the car for a 20/25 min CN at 4.25-4.45/50 and BT was 7.15 (no crying )

He doesn't really sleep in the car much so I think he must be feeling a bit rotten. Fx for tonight