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how to help an over-tired baby?
« on: April 12, 2007, 01:15:56 am »
My son is 4.5 months old and I believe he is over-tired bc he is a short napper, is still on a 3hour easy, often wakes twice within 2 hours of going down at night, and he has become more fussy recently.  He never seemed to be a fussy baby before, but now, he almost always cries when he wakes up from a nap for atleast 7minutes- and yesterday he was acting tired withing 30 minutes of waking from his nap.
(other details: He still wakes every 3 hours to bf at night, he hasn't accepted ebm in a bottle or a paci and he has no lovey)
I tried moving to a longer easy cycle, but at 1.5 hours, he is usually crying and rubbing his eyes from being tired. and at 3 hours, he is screaming to be fed.

This is the routine I aim for:
a-6
e-6
s-730-830
e-9
s-1030-1130
e-12
s-1-2
e-3
s-4-5
e-530
bath and bedtime routine starts at 645, usually asleep by 730
eats a little bit at 7pm.

Most days we're a little off, because of handling errands etc.

Should my focus be to do my best at extending his naps? either with w2s or going in at before he wakes and try to help him transition into another cycle?

or is there another way i can tweak our routine?

thanks for any help or advice anyone can offer!
-liana

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Re: how to help an over-tired baby?
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2007, 07:27:12 am »
hi Liana

actually I think you have to move him to at least 3,5 if not 4hrs easy to have him nap better and stop waking up at night.

no wonder he's hungry after 3 hrs if he wakes up too early from his naps. and you say you're feeding him every 3 hrs at night... well, at his age on feeding is quite normal, but you're sort of keeping him on 3hrs routine day and night. so in order to have him sleep better you would have to think of eliminating soem of his feedings at night.
have you tried dream feed?

here are 2 links for you [if you find them helpful, that's great. if not, or you still have more questions, pklease let us know]:
transition: https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=63161.0
DF: https://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=54662.msg382717#msg382717

hth
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Re: how to help an over-tired baby?
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2007, 23:17:33 pm »
Hi Monika,
I will give transitioning a try again. The link helped. Last time we tried transitioning, he was still taking 1 hour naps. Part of transitioning is working to extend naps if I have a short napper, right?

Also, while his naps are still short, how should I treat the feedings? Should I do my best to get as close to 3.5 hours as I can?  I am not sure what bw suggests for a crying hungry baby? Go a little longer each time and try to distract him if possible?

We do dreamfeed, have since the beginning. Do you think I can work on moving to a 3.5 cycle during teh day before I tackle the night feedings. I am envisioning a lot of middle of the night tears... if he doesn't take the bottle, what are my options for weaning night feedings? I guess I should go to the bf thread for that query...

Thanks so much, Liana

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Re: how to help an over-tired baby?
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2007, 16:15:07 pm »
hi Liana

well, for a crying hungry baby there's one suggestion I believe- feed him. just be sure you recognize his different cries.

as for feedings, I think yes, you should try feeding his as close to 3,5hrs as you can but never keep him hungry- that definitely won't help you with getting his routine right.

and yes, do work on one thing at a time. trying to fix everything at once only very rarely works.

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