8 1/2 month old waking 7 times during the night! Please help :(

[Jem88]

I have a post over in EASY where we we're trying to sort out LOs A times but i'm still confused and can't get them right For the past few nights she's been sleeping terrible - waking 6-7 time's and only having 1 3hr stretch the rest are between 1-2hrs

Every day is diffrent, i worked out that she needs atleast 3hr 15mins for to have a 1hr 15-20min nap but i still can't get her to 1.5hr. And some days like yesterday will only have a 1hr 15min AM nap and then a 1hr PM nap but even when she has good naps and then bad naps her night time sleep doesn't seem any better on the days she has 2 good naps.

lastnight was terrible - she fell asleep after being put into bed fine at 6.25pm and woke up every 1-2.5hrs until 3am - i tried to hold off feeding her at 3am as she'd had her bedtime bottle at 6.15pm drank 6oz and then another bottle at 10.00pm and drank 5oz. She woke at 3am and i kept laying her down every 10mins as she was settling but then crying again 5mins later, I did this until 4am and then got 4oz but she only drank 2oz so i guess she wasn't actually hungry as she normally drinks the full 5-6oz.

She then slept from 4am till 7.50am which was nearly 4hrs.

I just don't know what to do as her sleeping and night wakings are getting worse. When she wakes up she settles within a few mins - somtimes she settles on her own but other's she just needs her dummy popped back in.

I guess i need to work on her naps and try to get 2x 1.5hr's?

[Jem88]

Ah i think i've posted this in the wrong part, if so could someone move it to night wakenings.

Thanks

[Tweakster]

Hi there hon, I couldn't find your EASY post but I'll pop this over to NW for you for more eyes

[Jem88]

Anyone? she's still waking 7 times from bedtime - morning wake up. She has 1 feed around 5 hours after her bedtime feed.

Yesterday she had what we call "good naps" AM nap was 1hr 15mins and PM nap was 1hr 10mins, normally she'll have a good AM nap of 1hr 15-20mins and then a short PM nap 1hr or less.

I'm still really struggling with her A times, 1 day she can have good naps and still sleep bad but the next day have poor naps.

[Jem88]

6.30am - wake up.
7.30am - we try a bottle but she doesn't drink much maybe 1-2 oz.
8.30am - breakfast
10.00am - nap A time 3hr 30mins. - She goes in her cot after 3hr 20mins and is usually asleep within 5-10mins.
11.15am - up. Morning nap is usually around 1hr 15-20mins - somtimes 1hr 30mins.
12.00pm - dinner
2.30pm - bottle 6oz.
2.45pm - nap A time 3hr 30mins.

This is how our routine goes until the 2nd nap as this is always between 45-60mins and i then try to do an early bedtime - usually asleep for 6pm.

We actually had a good night monday (31st) she went to bed at 6.30pm and only woke up 3 times between 6.30pm - 6am. But yesterday she had a morning nap of 2hr 30mins and then a PM nap of 1hr, went to bed at 8pm slept a full 3 hrs and then was up every 1.5 - 2hrs until 5.30am. - maybe she had too much sleep yesterday but i don't like to wake her from her naps and she hardly ever has a 2hr + nap.

She has a dummy but i don't think that is a problem as monday night as i said she only woke 3 times, twice for a feed and once for the dummy..

She can settle on her own and 9/10 times goes to sleep on her own, it's only really when she's really really tired she sometimes needs a shhh pat.

I didn't write down monday's daytime routine down as i sometimes forget if we're out and about.

She is teething at the mo a little, both top front teeth have came through now so i don't think teething at the mo is the problem, i still think daytime naps are the problem, or i could be wrong? x

[Jem88]

Hi, she already has her 2 front bottom teeth (she got these at 4 months) then her 2 top front teeth came through basically within a week of each other maybe 2-3 weeks ago.

I've noticed if she has a 3hr 30-35min A time before her first nap she'll have a good 1hr 30min nap and would proberly sleep 2hrs, but the past 2 days i've been waking her at the 1hr 30min mark. Then putting her down 3hr 20-30mins later for her afternoon nap but she either goes to sleep straight away then wakes up at 30-45mins later or she plays and won't settle and ends up with a 4hr A time and still has 45-60min afternoon nap.

I can't seem to get the afternoon nap right, i've tried putting her down a little early like you said but if she's not tired she'll just fuss around or play.

After her 1st nap of 1hr 30mins she wakes up fine and happy. But her 2nd nap of 45-60mins she's still tired and crys/rubs her eyes but won't go back to sleep

If she has a 45min 2nd nap i try to do 3hr A time before bed and sometimes she settles fine but sometimes she'll fuss around and it then ends up 3hr 30mins.

[Laura29]

Hi, Just read your post.  It maybe a long shot but possibly your baby might have a bit of reflux.  Reflux can be mild. I am having the same problem with my 5 month old.  I am up every couple of hours!! And won't settle in bed with me either.  I have had him propped up from him being a month old, but a month ago he discovered he could roll over easily in a propped up cot and he was doing great, so i removed the prop!!!  And the last 3 weeks have been horrendous and this morning I have just discovered why!! So tonight we trying the propped up method again!  Wish me luck.

Its worth a try. X 
Laura.

[Jem88]

Hi, she did have feeding problems when she was around 2 weeks ago, would scream, wriggle around and kick her legs when we tried to feed her and seemed like she was in pain so we tried her on Cow & Gate comfort forumla for colic & constipation and all the fussyness stopped when feeding, but we then had wind problems during the night from birth - around 5 months, she'd wriggle around with trapped wind all night long. She was sick alot and still is after she's had a bottle but i've read about reflux but never really thought she has it.

We tried to prop her cot up when she was younger and it didn't change anything, she did sleep well on her side but would then wake when she rolled onto her back. Now she can stand up in her cot she's all over the place, not sure if propping her cot again would help.


The past 2 night's she's been sleeping quite good, not brilliant but she's been sleeping 3.5hrs and then a stretch of 4hrs but then waking really early, yesterday morning was 5.30am and this morning was 4.20am, this morning it took 1hr of PD (as she stands and sits up in her cot constantly) until she finally settled and slept from 6pm - 8.30am.

She's had 2hr AM naps and then a short 45min PM nap a few times before and has still slept poor. But i could try and see if she'll do that again.

[Jem88]

Hmm, yesterdays routine when like:

woke up at 4.20am and took and hour to settle, fell asleep at 6am, but then woke for the day at 8.30am.

8.30am up
11.45am nap
12.15pm - awake - only had 30mins.
4.00pm - nap
5.20pm awake 1hr 20mins.
8.10pm - bedtime/asleep.

She only had 30mins AM nap was abit grumpy for 10mins after she woke, but we then went to see my dad and i thought she'd be grumpy and moan but she was fine, and played happily until we left at 3.30pm, i then thought she'd fall alseep in the pushchair on the way home (5min walk home) but she didn't but i put her down at 4.00pm.

Lastnight was the best night we've had in months. She woke 3 times, and slept a full 4hr 55mins - nearly a full 5 hours, she hasn't got past the 3.5hr mark in a long time.

She is teething at the mo, so we gave calpol before bed, she woke at 10.00pm, 11.00pm (i tried a bottle at 11pm as she hardly drank her bedtime bottle at 8.00pm - but she only had 1oz) she then slept from 11.00pm - 4.00am i then gave a bottle and she drank the full 7oz.

She chatted for about 5mins at 4.15am but then slept until 6.30am. This was a great night for us, and i thought we'd have a bad night with her only having a short AM nap.

I was reading this post http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=219035.15
lastnight and could my LO be needng less daytime sleep, a short AM nap and then a long PM nap, or is she too young still? she'll be 9 months on 11th next week. x

[Jem88]

Today she had a 1hr 25min AM nap, and just woke from a 40min PM nap, so i'm thinking early BT.. and see how tonight goes.

She's at my mums tomorrow for the day (and always has a PM short nap). But if we have loads of NWs tonight i'll try the short AM nap and hopfully long PM nap on wed, and then see how wed night goes. x

[Jem88]

She actually slept a full 6.5hrs lastnight in one go. She went to bed and fell asleep at 6.45pm, woke at 7.25pm but then slept until 1.50am, she then woke for a bottle. Slept until 5am and then re-fused to go back to sleep until 6am and then only slept until 6.45am.

Was a good night and i've no idea why lol. she's been having 1 long nap of 1hr 25mins either PM or AM and then a short nap of 30-45mins the past 3 days and has had 2 good nights.