It's getting worse.. something is wrong somewhere. .plz help

[katie80]

Hi there, sorry I may not have gotten to this in time!

For PUPD at this age, you will try to settle in the crib as much as possible, with your voice and either patting or rubbing his back/hip/tummy (wherever works best). If he's really upset and needs some reassurance, then pick him up, say your sleepy phrase and put him right back down even if he's crying. I wouldn't worry about the cradle hold, I never did it and most parents find it easier to hold up on their shoulder rather than in the cradle position.  If you feel you need to hold him for a bit, do so just for a minute and then put him back down (if he stops crying during that time, put him down).  Most LOs of this age will learn to self-settle much quicker if the settling is done in the crib.

Is he an independent sleeper during the day and at BT? 

[ismaeelsmummy]

Hiii.. don't worry you were abit late but least u got here in time for the next night 

I did try what I thought was pupd and I never got to pd lol I ended up singing him to sleep in my arms. He woke as follows. .
1200 settled in arms
0100 wouldn't settle at all ended up feeding
0330 settled in crib
0510 tried settling until 6 but nothing worked ended up feeding
Wu at 7 brought him into my bed n we both just fell asleep until 9
Result= FAIL!!
Can I do pupd if he is teething? As I think he might be..

Also when he wakes at night his cry has a high pitched squeal to it. Im not sure if hes in pain or just frustrated.

During the day and bt I usually settle him in his crib but still needs to be patted to sleep.

[Ima shel Alon]

The screaming does sound like discomfort to me and if you think he might be teething then I would leave now any ST till he is better.

[katie80]

Have you tried pain meds for teething to see if that helps?  If he settles in his crib with patting during the day, then I'd use that to help him settle and NWs and only pick up if you think it's necessary.  Once you're sure he's well, it would probably help to gradually withdraw the patting as well, so that he knows how to get to sleep and transition on his own.

(((Hugs))), you didn't fail, it's all a learning process and sometimes we just need some sleep!

[ismaeelsmummy]

Well I fed lo at 5 and he did the high pitched scream type cry when I took the spoon out of his hand.. so im thinking his cry at night is a result of him not getting his own way.

So im going to carry on sleep training.
I have tried sleep meds before .. I have given a full dose of calpol and teething gel before bed and still hasn't got better..

[ismaeelsmummy]

Sorry meant teething meds lol...

Not sleep meds 

[katie80]

Sorry meant teething meds lol...

LOL, when I read calpol and teething gel I didn't even notice you said sleep meds, but yikes!

I'd go ahead and feed every 4hr or so tonight, so that you don't have to do too much PUPD, and then you can gradually stretch that out.  The main thing is that you don't want to start settling and then stop to feed, as that will send a mixed message.  So, decide whether you will feed or settle before you go in. 

Good luck!

[ismaeelsmummy]

Hii...

Dont know if its a one off or not but he slept from half 8 to 12 and settled at 12.. then woke up at 3.30 and I fed him.. he then woke again at 5.40 and I resettled him and he slept until 7.30. I didn't need to do pupd as he settled in his cot..

So I only fed him once..

The only difference during the day was he woke at 3pm from his nap during the day and my sister took him out and he didn't sleep again until bedtime..

So definitely need to up the a time. .

[Ima shel Alon]

Glad to hear you had a better night, hope you got good sleep yourself!

It's amazing how A times can affect night sleep, I can see this till today and DS is older than 2y!

[ismaeelsmummy]

Yuppp I wasn't really convinced about a time until recently lol but after seeing the effects with naps I was quite amazed

Yes I did get a good nights sleep. .I felt so happy when I heard him at 7.30 this morning. .

[katie80]

Wow, what a great update!  Glad you got some good sleep too!