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Night wakings and WI/WO???
« on: February 29, 2008, 18:44:40 pm »
We are about to start doing WI/WO with 18 month DS.  Right now he wakes 1-2 times per night and we go i hold his hand to get him back to sleep (sometimes i let him lay down with me).  Once I start doing WI/WO, how do I handle night wakings?
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Re: Night wakings and WI/WO???
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2008, 23:51:12 pm »
Consistency, consistency, consistency!  :) Try to do the same thing each time you go in, so he'll come to expect it and know what it means.  Same words, same actions.  What we would do is walk in and say, "Lie down, go to sleep".  At first, she wouldn't lie down, so we'd put her down if she was standing. We'd keep only saying those words if she popped back up again.  And we also say the same thing when we put her down for the start of the night (Although I add, "good night, sweetie") If she was really crying when she wakes overnight, we'd comfort briefly, but put her right down as soon as she stopped crying (sort of weaning her away from longer comforting - like you and the hand holding, etc).  But you're aiming to just walk in, say the words, and he'll lie down, without touching him at all.  Then you leave.  If he fusses or cries again, then go in and repeat the words - calmly but firmly.  Once you start doing the wi/wo, try to avoid caving in to the old habits, because then he'll come to expect that.  Does he have a lovey - that can help A LOT!  HTH!
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Re: Night wakings and WI/WO???
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2008, 00:18:57 am »
Erin...Thanks for the info.  I am scared of him being upset and so tired that I'm afraid I'll want to drift back to the old habits.  But I know I can't...wouldn't be fair to him.  He kind of has a lovey...not super attached, but I'm sure that will change.  Cross your fingers, I guess I'll jump right in...or maybe tomorrow...

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Re: Night wakings and WI/WO???
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2008, 13:48:19 pm »
Around that age, we let Megan choose her own lovey - asked her which of her stuffed animals she wanted to sleep with...  You might find that it goes faster than you'd think...the first couple of days will be the hardest, I suspect.  Good luck!
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Re: Night wakings and WI/WO???
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2008, 14:49:04 pm »
I will let him pick out his own lovie.  That might work wonderfully.  He watches his big brother (3 yo) lay down by himself at nap, so I aways talk to the LO about going to sleep like his brother...I'm just scared of a all night no sleep fest!  So, in the middle of the night you would walk in and say lay down, then walk out and wait for the cries, then go back in say lay down and go back out, etc?  I wonder how long he will be upset?  I guess every child is different.  I think the first of the night will go much smoother than the middle of the night.  I hope I'm pleasantly surprised. 

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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2008, 14:54:53 pm »
another question.
say he is up for a few hours at night, do i need to adjust his day for that? 
right now this is what we are doing
wake 6:00 (sometimes earlier:()
nap 12-12:30 for 2 hours
get in bed at 6:45-7
asleep 7:15-7:45

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Re: Night wakings and WI/WO???
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2008, 20:54:02 pm »
So, in the middle of the night you would walk in and say lay down, then walk out and wait for the cries, then go back in say lay down and go back out, etc?  I wonder how long he will be upset? 

That's exactly it - although I'll pause long enough in the room to see that she actually does lie down, and if she doesn't I do put down.  Wait for the cries (if they start), but give it a second before rushing in to see if he settles - sometimes she'll cry and stop, cry and stop, and then stay stopped, so I don't go in.  I think when we started, it took about a half hour to an hour at the start of the night - she's stop for 10 min then start again.  Overnight tended to be faster.  Make sure your 3 yo has some white noise on in his room too.

BTW, we do it too in the wee hours of the morning if she's up just too early (like 5 am).  If it's been a rough night, I try to keep nap time close to usual time (if you move it too early, it can cause early morning wakenings), but I'll make an earlier bedtime.  Let me know how things go!

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Re: Night wakings and WI/WO???
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2008, 18:51:35 pm »
phew, it wasn't as bad as I'd had anticipated!  i let him pick a lovie, rocked him a few minutes, laid him down and said night-night.  I left the room and counted to 10 after the cries started, then went back in, etc.  I ended up standing outside the door where he could still see me alittle.  It took about an hour.  He then woke at 11pm and i did 10 min of wi/wo.  he was up for the day at 5:30...hopefully that will change.  Cross your fingers tonight is no worse!

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Re: Night wakings and WI/WO???
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2008, 20:19:20 pm »
{fingers crossed!} :)
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Re: Night wakings and WI/WO???
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2008, 20:16:07 pm »
Last night went well also.  It took 30 minutes at the start of the night and less than 5 each night waking.  He woke 3 times that I had to go in and once he called out several times but didn't need me.  When should the night wakings start tapering off?  Thanks so much for the support!!!

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Re: Night wakings and WI/WO???
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2008, 23:36:33 pm »
I would imagine within a few days.  The more he realises he can resettle without you, the better he'll do, and soon enough, you won't even hear him wake, if he does.  Be prepared for some future NWs down the road - anytime there's illness, once she starts having bad dreams, needing to pee....you get the idea!   ;)  The good thing is, once you've established this as your response, he'll be used to it, and you just do it again as needed.
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Re: Night wakings and WI/WO???
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2008, 16:11:41 pm »
Everything is going great, except the early wakings!  Now, how do I fix that?

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Re: Night wakings and WI/WO???
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2008, 12:18:16 pm »
How early are we talking?  And is he waking up happy or crying?  If he's waking up happy, then I'd look at the rest of the day - is the nap too long or too early in the day?  Maybe try moving the nap a bit later - like closer to 12:30 or 1pm?  How is he going down at night now - well?  My DD1 always seems to need about 11 hrs sleep - not the usual 12...

OK - basically I have no clue!  Have you checked out any of the EW threads?
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Re: Night wakings and WI/WO???
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2008, 14:25:20 pm »
Well, he start waking between 5:15-5:45.  Now I'm an early bird and don't mind 6, but would rather avoid the 5 o'clock hour!
Our day looks like this:
5:15-5:45 awake (I try to keep him in bed as long as I can, 5:45 is usually it)  He is happy but is yawning within a few hours
12:00 nap for two hours...he usually wakes during this time and has to be put back to sleep.
6:50 in bed  (goes to sleep with no problem...usually not even any talking)
he usually wakes around 3-4 and i wi/wo

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Re: Night wakings and WI/WO???
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2008, 20:11:46 pm »
I really have no idea....sounds an awful lot like our nights, actually!  Except her nap is around 12:30 for 2 hrs and she's getting better at staying asleep that whole time...
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