1 year and 1 month with nightfeed

[fifibobandmore]

Edwards normal routine when he only wakes once is:
4:30am NW 10 min BF
7:00 wake BF 45mins followed by ceral and drink of diluted fruit juice
A time until 10 when he has a snack which is normal a piece of fruit
A time until 12.00pm lunch which is normal a whole mel sandwich with either cheese or meat on, yoghurt, and either raisen or carrot and cucumber sticks
1.00 BF or 5oz full-fat milk in a cup followed by nap for 2-2.5 hours in buggy incase he doesn't wake for collecting older children from school
A time from 4-5:30
Family dinner at 5:30 which varies day to day from a pasta or rice dish or something with potatoes
Bath at 6:30 followed by a 45 minutes BF then bed by 7:30.

He has a cup with water in available when he wants it dueing the day which is filled everytime he emptys it as if he doesn't have the cup iof water available he will demand more BF's dueing the day which I will give him only when he is poorly oir teething as then he doesn't eat as much solids. On the way back form school when I have picked the older children up they each have a home-made ceral bar just to tie them over until dinner is ready at 5:30 as they used to have there familky dinner at 5 but because we have a 30 minute walk from school now dinner is later and they don't seem to be able to wait that extra 30 minuets but they still clear there plates and even eat all there pudding which for Edward is always fruit or stewed fruit and custard mostly but I do give him the same pudding as the rest of us if we are having something like apple pie or cumble

If I limit the amount of solids he has dueing the day he demands more BF's which I feel are to much I will only give him 6 BF's in 24 hours because of his age and because of my experience with my DD who I bfed when she wanted and it oursed her to hardly eat which lead to her haviong a iron deficenty as she wasn't getting enough iron in her diet so to prevent this happening again I encourage solids more than ythe BF's now he is over a year. Above is his normal routine it is better than it used to be and I am finding this new routine when it goes to plan a lot better and it gives me that little bit more time that I can share between by older 2 children who were having to have my attention with edward and it wasn't far on them as they do like to have some mummy time on there own which they are now getting

[fifibobandmore]

Edward doesn't have a prop to settle to sleep he has his bf down stairs at night and then DH takes him up to bed as this seems to have helped him learn how to fall alseep independatly as when I was doing the pat/shh routine with him he would just scream until I gave him a BF to go to sleep with but we started sleep training when he was 10 months old. Well yesterday I found a molar making an appearance and today he has a white mark were the molar ois going to be so I think this is contrebuting to his night wakings at the moment. WE did put him to bed half an hour later yesterday to just to see if having an extra half an hour A time helped but it didn't. He just woke at 5:30 this morning and wouldn't got back to sleep but before that he woke at 1:30. When he wakes in the night he isn't easy to settle which is why I BF him back to sleep when he wakes in the night

[fifibobandmore]

I have stopped expressing now and if he refuses a BF with him being over a year I replace it with 4 oz of full fat cows milk warmed to body temperature. The problem with waiting until 9 for him to have breakfast is I am dropping my DS#1 off at school and by the time I get back home at 9:30 he is a sleep as he has started waking now between 5-6 and wont go back to sleep so he is having his 45 minute fedd earlier at the moment. Today he woke at 5:45 and finished his BF at 6:30 and I yesterday he had lunch at 11:30. I don't want to decrease his solids at all as with him being over a year there diet now is not milk based it is solid based and I don't want to encourage more BF's as I am finding it hard to cope with him having 3 BF's at the moment and also at the moment he is demanding more bf's as he is teething again and eating solids is hurting as it is one of the molars that is coming through. I really do appreciate the advice but I have got to re-do a routine with him again to be able to get the older 2 to school on time as DS#1 starts school at 9 and DD starts nursery at 12:30 and each time is a 30 minute walk to school and then between 20-30 minutes back home and then the same again to collect them at 3:30. He doesn't like pumpkin and swet potatoes just make him sick.

[*Nicola*]

Alison,

I have split this from the original thread and will move it over to Toddler Sleep for you   I'll post a link on the original thread so that the other posters know where to find you

You will get great support and advice there, which will be more specific to a baby of Edward's age

[fifibobandmore]

Thank yo Nicola just got Edward to sleep now will have to see how long he sleeps for tonight

[*Nicola*]

Hopefully til morning

[fifibobandmore]

Well fingers crossed here that I have solved Edwards night-feeding as the past 2 nights were he has had a big portain of dinner he has sleeped through. The first night was 8 - 4 had a 45 minute BF and went back to sleep 5:30 until 8 and last night he sleeped from 8 - 5:30 had a 30 minute BF went back to sleep at 6 until 7:30 when DH got him out his cot and took him down stairs and gave him breakfast with a cup of warm full fat milk after as he refused his breakfast BF. Will give him his bigger portain of dinner again tonight and see what happens. If it is only htis that was the problem I am going to feel so mad with myself for not trying a bigger family dinner for him earlier even though I do think now he is having much solids especially for the family dinner but I guess if this is what helps him sleep at night then it must be done.

[fifibobandmore]

I spoke to soon he is back to N/W between 2-5 times anight and this has been for the past 3 nights. And the only hting thatgets him back to sleep when he wakes is a BF. I am pulling my hair out just as I decover from sleep deprobation it starts all over again. I really want my baby to start sleeping through but it just deosn't seem to be happening. Were am I going wrong with these N/W's I have continued with the bigger portian of food for his dinner at night and his bed-time is still 7:30, 8 the last depending on when he had his nap. Could it be he is over tired as his naps used to last 2-2 1/2 halfs now he is only napping between 45 mins to an hour and this has been happening now for 5 days.

[*Nicola*]

Alison,

What have you tried to resettle him?

[fifibobandmore]

Our resettling routine is a cuddle until carm then back into the cot with me sat one step away from the cot as I am doing the GW technique with him but instead of moving away abit every 3 nights I am moving away a step when he is settling himself within 10 mins to reduce his distress. But he is been unwell again and has got 1 molar and another 2 just broke the gum yesterday so because of this I have gone back to BFing him when he wakes to get him all relaxed back down again and he is going back to sleep once in the cot within 5 mins. I don't want tio move away another step just yet with him being unwell but I might try taking another step away tonight as he has been going to sleep with in 10 mins for the past 3 nights.

[*Nicola*]

NW's are prob due to teething then.

Are you just feeding at the 5am waking?

[fifibobandmore]

No I am having to feed him back to relaxed state every time he wakes other wise I am having crying seesions until he goes back to sleep because of the crying and the crying ends up waking the older 2.

[*Nicola*]

Oh dear

Totally understand why you are feeding him at those night wakes, I definately wouldn't want 3 up at night.  Saying that, if you do offer a feed each time he wakes he will come to expect that before he will resettle.  Then you end up with a feed to sleep prop