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someone please tell me this is age/stage related.  Lily has for a month or so now, slowly been been increasing in what at first I thought was bedtime stalling.  It started out just naturally wanting another kiss as soon as I've left her bedroom (only at night) then she seemed to be suffering with fears of things.  She started asking all sorts of questions when I'd left "mummy are their any snails in my room" "no darling, no snails" "any slugs?" "any lions?" "any sheep?" "any goats?".... this is slowly stopping but now she is calling for another kiss, then another, then another, then a cuddle... its getting ridiculous as I'm up and down the stairs upto 10/15 times some nights.  If I don't go in she gets hysterical and from past experience real hysterics can results in her being sick so I never let her get this bad, plus I've never yet let her cio and am not about to start.

I'm just stumped though, I don't know how to break it, or even if I should be trying to.  I did read in a post by Katet (I think it was) that about 3 they really 'get' the idea of love and that mum is usually there first love.  So I'm wondering if this is whats causing it, as she is telling me a whole lot, particularly at bedtime on my repeat trips for another kiss that she really really does love me.

Any insights into this would be hugely appreciated  ???


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Re: 2 3/4yr old. want another kiss mummy, MUMMY WANT ANOTHER KISS......
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2009, 11:02:05 am »
hiya

we're just starting to come out the other side of this- it started as bedtime stalling using anything (need a wee, need a poo, I'm poorly, I'm cold etc etc) and then the mummy clinginess started- I think it's another bout of SA. It's been going on for a couple months now and I really hope it finishes soon, is doing my head in! Am trying my best to fill her mummy cup during the day, especially towards the end of the day, so that she's not so desperate for me at bedtime. I get "mummy I need you" over and over but when I ask her why, she either doesn't know or can't tell me, she just says "because I do".
Am thinking I just have to ride it out, like most bouts of SA.
I get what you mean about them starting to understand love- she's been saying I love you mummy for ages, I think because we say it to her; but this week she's started saying she doesn't love me, not nastily, just very matter of fact. I just say Ok then and move on to something else.
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Re: 2 3/4yr old. want another kiss mummy, MUMMY WANT ANOTHER KISS......
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2009, 13:39:50 pm »
thanks for answering, looks like I just ride it out then, sigh! I'm a stay at home mum so spend heaps of time with her, her bath/bedtime routine takes an hour so I'm pretty sure her mummy cup is full, I guess she just needs a bigger cup at the minute.  I hadn't really given it much thought but she is not staying put in her bedroom in the mornings either, which normally she is pretty good at.  She is working on her last 2yr molar too, its taking forever, hopefully that might be an end of it when its through.  I can but hope, right!?!


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Re: 2 3/4yr old. want another kiss mummy, MUMMY WANT ANOTHER KISS......
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2009, 13:50:00 pm »
I've no direct experience of this, and no idea if it is helpful but...

Could you say you will come back and give her a kiss in two minutes? Then go back and give her a kiss, and say you will come back in another two minutes. etc etc etc. I know it is a lot of to-ing and fro-ing but maybe she will fall asleep in one of those two minute gaps and fall asleep a bit faster as she won't be feeling anxiouso about needing to call you?

Just an idea - mine is much younger, so no idea if this is wide of the mark.

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Re: 2 3/4yr old. want another kiss mummy, MUMMY WANT ANOTHER KISS......
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2009, 14:12:29 pm »
Thanks Anna
not sure if it would work at the moment as she is also in a phase of not really listening to answers when I tell her something.  The other day I had to go to the toilet at bedtime, I'd said my goodnights and said I was going to the toilet and then going downstairs (have to do this as if she hears me still pottering about upstairs she will call me back) so as soon as i sit on loo she calls for another kiss, I call back I will be there in a minute, which she ignored and just kept calling and calling.  It doesn't take long to have a wee but by the time I'd done she was hysterical.

that said I might give it a try one night and see what happens, its worth a go.

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Re: 2 3/4yr old. want another kiss mummy, MUMMY WANT ANOTHER KISS......
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2009, 19:18:15 pm »
It seems as bedtime stalling, Antoine did that a while back and we nipped it right away.

We always give him a hug and a kiss, then cover him with blanky then his blankets and we leave. Well at first he started saying he didn't want a kiss and when we would go to close his door and then he wanted his kiss. So we just plainly told him, we're sorry he missed his kiss next time take your kiss when mommy/daddy offers. The first time he had a tantrum, but within a week he was taking his kisses but moved on to I need a tissu, so we make sure that he has on in his room before we go now no more bedstalling.
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Re: 2 3/4yr old. want another kiss mummy, MUMMY WANT ANOTHER KISS......
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2009, 12:58:22 pm »
we did get a phase of bedtime stalling last year when she was just over 2 but that with a little help stopped fairly quickly but this is/feels different, it definitly feels more like SA than just plain bedtime stalling, when she stalls she doesn't get upset if I nip it in the bud, but this time if I say no more kisses she doesn't have a tantrum she just gets super upset, its like I've told her I don't love or want her anymore iykwim?

yesterday she dropped her nap so it was early to bed and she was very tired by bedtime as DP had taken her for a long walk in afternoon, so I tried telling her I would come back in 2mins and give her another kiss, whether she was awake or not, which she was still awake for.  So then as I could see her keeping herself awake I said I'd be back in 1/2hr whether she was awake or not and give her a kiss, she didn't call for me and seemed to promptly fall asleep.  I will try it again tonight as she will be tired tonight too as she doesn't get a nap today due to preschool, tomorrow will be the decider as she gets a nap on wednesday so won't be quite so ready for sleep that night.

thanks ladies :-)


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Re: 2 3/4yr old. want another kiss mummy, MUMMY WANT ANOTHER KISS......
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2009, 18:07:26 pm »
I've been trying something like this too, telling Sophie I'm going to have my tea and will come give her a kiss when I go to bed- it's been working a treat and she's been settling much easier. I make sure I tell her in the morning that I came to give her a kiss so she knows she can trust me. And yes, I do actually give her a kiss even though she's asleep, I wouldn't lie to my daughter!  ;)
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Re: 2 3/4yr old. want another kiss mummy, MUMMY WANT ANOTHER KISS......
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2009, 18:36:11 pm »
for us its drinking water..... :( he will drink a whole sippy cup to stall and then want to wee..obviously!!
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Re: 2 3/4yr old. want another kiss mummy, MUMMY WANT ANOTHER KISS......
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2009, 18:49:52 pm »
Nik - My ds does this too and I know what you mean, it is like the end of the world if he doesn't get that last hug or kiss! It's so sad!

A few things that have worked for us are to tell him how many more he gets, or better yet, asking how many more he needs and then doing that. Sometimes we make it all goofy and when he says he needs tem more, we do ten really fast kisses all over his face fast and make big kiss sound effects. It sends him into laughter and he is happy.

We also have asked him to lay down, sing his ABCs to himself (or any song she may know, or she can count, go through all the animals she knows, etc) and if she needs another kiss, to call then. 9x out of 10, ds is asleep before it gets to that point.

It's a bit irrational at this point since the kisses and hugs are emotionally charged and not due to stalling, but if you are aware of which she is doing that night, you could give her passes - however many cards with kisses (pics of lips) and hugs (people hugging) on them and tell her she has that many to use, after that, all gone. You'll come give kisses before bed.

One thing I never do with ds is relate time to when I'll be back. At this age they have no real time concept, so use activites to relate to when you will be back in.

And goodness, I hope it's a phase too! We are at about week 3 or 4 of this as well. Some nights are better than others, but still!
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Re: 2 3/4yr old. want another kiss mummy, MUMMY WANT ANOTHER KISS......
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2009, 19:23:23 pm »
well 2 nights and 2 success'  ;D as I mentioned tomorrow will be the teller  ;)

Mutka, we had the drinking water staller when she was about 1.5yrs old, so I just put a sippy of water in with her and she still has this.  It probably will bite me on the bum, or maybe already is as even though she was PT at 1.5 she still needs a nappy at night, she seems to soak it as soon as she wakes up in am, but were working on that one.

Jonahs mom, I like the idea of getting her to sing a song then call if she still needs a kiss after that, if current plan fails tomorrow I will try that one.  I know she hasn't really got the concept of time but so far back in 2mins and then back in half an hour, which I stress is quite a long time, seems to be working, did tonight anyway.  Although tonight she asked as I got down stairs in first 2min break 'are there any wolves mum?' so I went up said no wolves, no animals at all, I will be back in 2mins for that kiss and she was fine with that, didn't want it there and then, which suprised me  :-\

One thing she doesn't do is use kisses for stalling, if she is stalling I can say 'this is your last one' and she accepts it, or she try's her luck and accepts a blown kiss from the door.  Stalling is when she asks if this or that animal is in her room  ::)

good to know were not alone, now all we need is someone to tell us yes it is just a phase and it will last roughly X long, and we can all breath a sigh of releif and just go with it  ;)


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Re: 2 3/4yr old. want another kiss mummy, MUMMY WANT ANOTHER KISS......
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2009, 19:26:07 pm »
I ahve been told clearly taht mama ha sto give water, no shortcuts of leaving sippy cups in the bed...!!!

and as for stalling we also do a roll call of each and evryone perosn we know on earth who has to be asleep for DS to fall asleep. ::)
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