help with angel temprement lol

[~*~Louisa~*~]

odd title huh

right ironed out most of our probs with extending A times ect one problem we have is because of her being an angel baby type when she wakes in the morning she just lays there for anywhere upto 15 minutes before even making a sound
usually she will noisily suck her fingers enough for me to wake up at some point during that time but it makes it near impossible to sort out her first A time

which wouldnt be a problem buuuuuuuuut she doesnt do any sleepy cues she yawns thoughout the A time (which has prevoisly led to too short A times becase i didnt realise it was just her being relaxed lol) she doesnt rub her eyes or stop being cheerful or anything
only thing she does do it get very cranky but only if she is VERY OT

I tried putting her down slightly early on the basis of it usually takes most babys 20 min to doze off as mentioned in the books but she settles within 5 so if i put her down early it makes a big differance

what can i do lol i woulda thought an angel baby type would be easier haha

[JJshappymum]

HI, I have an angel/textbook baby and he does the same thing more or less. During activity time, he yawns the whole time and doesn't give ANY signs of being tired except when he is OT. When it is nap time though, if it is not the right time and he UT or OT it is practically impossible to settle him. I just keep an eye on the clock and considering he is almost 3 months, around an 1 - 1 1/2 hours of A time and I start to put him to sleep. His eyes do get bigger and a little red around the edges when he is tired but not always. Wish I could be of more help. Actually, I have a question for you LOL, how did you extend his A time?

[clazzat]

I can't believe you're complaining about an angel baby! 

dd1 was an angel baby (so unlike dd2!), and we actually woke her every morning - would you be prepared to do that so that you know when her day starts?  We didn't do BW with her - I'm afraid we did the "other" routine (which worked really well for her), but that meant that we went by the clock instead of her cues.  She always had enough sleep and was always cheerful, so perhaps your easiest path would be to find out the "right" A times for her age and just work to that?

Cx

[~Emma~]

I have exactly the same problem with my LO. He lies awake in his crib in the am for god knows how long....every morning I go in there he's bright eyed and bushy tailed and I cringe thinking that the rest of the day will go wrong cos I don't know how long he's been awake for!!!

 He also has very subtle cues and a yawn tends to be too late for us so I just have to use a bit of guesswork in getting him down in the am. I do however keep it really low key, we just hang out in the bed and then i'll go through to the nursery after feed and hang out there for a while. But its a guessing game....sometimes I put him down and get a great nap so I know i've guessed well but other times its the worst start to the day.

 I was thinking of just creeping in at 5am and waiting to see what time he opens his eyes at but I know I would end up just falling asleep myself!

 If you get a solution to the problem let me know......

[~*~Louisa~*~]

I just wanna say thank god im not the only person with this problem lol

I know what u mean about complaining about an angel baby but DD1 was a spirited and BW was easier with her lmao

jjshappymum I slowly gave her more A time increasing by 10 min in the morning to start with but it wasnt effective so in the end i just shoved her into 2 hours A time and just kept her up for that lol shes 4 months next week so was ready for it

only problem if i wanted to wake her up is it would mean a 6am start not sure i could manage that lol im gunna have to try not takin me eye off her see if she gives me a hint of when shes sleepy

[~Emma~]

 I have actually said in previous posts that it would be easier at times if he just cried as then i'd know what to do!!! If he cries I comfort him...but if he doesn't i'm left thinking ''what do you want? what do I do?''  In  that respect I get fooled quite alot and end up with OT. My LO is angel/touchy and sometomes the angel part can be a bit of a puzzle too!!!! 

[huntersmummyinoz]

as pp suggested you could wake her at the same time each day. pick a time about 10/15mins before you think she wakes (will prob take a little trial and error to work out the right time)

other thing i've heard some mums do when their LO doesnt let them know they're awake, is count A time from when they get them out of the cot. start with an A time about 30mins less than the A time she does during the rest of the day, as that takes account of some time she has been awake and also that first A time is usually a bit shorter than the rest. once again, some trial and error involved to get the 'right' time so not OT or UT.

[~Emma~]

Thats pretty much what I do...if I go in at 6.30 and he's awake I just assume it was 6 he was awake and take it from there, but then if I see he's sleepy on the bottle I can assume he's been awake a wee bit longer and then I cut right back. SOmetimes I hit it right....sometimes not!!