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« on: March 19, 2009, 09:28:11 am »
I am Soooooo confused by all the conflicting sterliser milk feed advice. Please tell me whats a practical option!

I have recently stopped BF'ing (lo is now 22 weeks) so doing 5 bottles a day now and 3 mini meals. I have a steam steriliser and use powder formula.  Do i need to sterilise each bottle within 2 hours of the feed as it says on the milk packet, use fresh boiled water, wait for it to cool for 30 mins etc.....  It means lo is waiting all the time for bottles to cool (even though we have a warmer)!

And do the bottles stay sterile if you leave them in the steamer? as it has space for 5 bottle (perfect) although if i put it on at 6.30am, the last one would not get used till 10pm DF!!!! At the mo i am putting it on 6.30am, then 12pm and 6pm but feel like i spend my whole day either making up feeds or doing washing!!!

Would love some advice please!
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Re: sterilising
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2009, 09:31:19 am »
I used to sterilise all my bottles after lo had gone to bed then made up all the bottles for the next day and popped them in the fridge. Then all I had to do was warm them up gently each time I needed one. I have heard they do not recommend doing this now (and we are only going back just over 3 years) but it was fine.

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Re: sterilising
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2009, 12:46:29 pm »
I sterilize all the bottles then put them together with the lids on and leave them on the side until I'm ready to use them. The bottles apparently only stay sterile in the sterilizer if you don't open it which doesn't make sense to me as you have to open it to take one out!

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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2009, 13:04:27 pm »
I'm with the other ladies too! :D    I've got a steam steriliser with space for 4 bottles.  So I sterilise and add hot boiling water to them all, pop the tops on, let them cool and then put them in the fridge until I'm ready to add powder.   As they get used, I wash them and put them in the steriliser.  As soon as two are in, I blast again.... (I like to have extras available, just in case ::)). 

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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2009, 13:12:56 pm »
I do the same.  I sterilise 6 bottles either last thing at night or 1st thing in the morning (enough for 1 day) and fill them with boiled water.  When I need to make a feed, I add the formula then warm in a jug of hot water. 

My health visitor did tell me to make them up from scratch each time but honestly - how practical is that  ::).

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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2009, 13:19:02 pm »
exactly!! I just needed to know i'm not the only one who finds the whole thing completely impractical!! So i will make a move to sterilise and make up the bottles all in one go, or maybe down to 2 a day!!

Thanks everyone, but keep posting any other options!
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Re: sterilising
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2009, 14:41:26 pm »
ladies,

we used  atrick which was helpful to make the feeds fresh.

I would sterlize all teh bottle sin the morninga nd the clos ethem and put on the side, but woudl also boil water and cool to just a little warmer than the righ temp (enough for formula to dissolve) and stor ethe water in a flask.

So when I ha dto make a fresh bottle it just menat pouring form the falsk in a clena bottle , dissolving teh formula, maybe 5 minutes of cooling and thats it - done.
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2009, 14:53:08 pm »
I think the other thing to keep in mind is that formula in the UK is different than formula in the US.  At least form what I can piece together from various things I have read. It seems that formula in the US can be made with room temperature water and the water doesn't need to be boiled?

Anyway, the regulations here in the UK are that you need to use freshly boiled water (only boiled once as the mineral content changes with repeated boiling) that has been left to cool for 30 minutes.  When we were on Aptamil I actually rang them to discuss this "30 minute" thing and they told me that the government regulations are that bottles have to be made fresh and so they need to tell you to let the water cool for 30 minutes because it's assumed you will have a baby crying from hunger close by and if the water hasn't cooled for 30 minutes you may scald your infant if the water hasn't been left to cool. BUT, any longer than 30 minutes and the water will be too cool for the formula to dissolve.  You can use it earlier than 30 minutes but make sure baby is not close by. My own experience is that after 30 minutes, water is still scalding hot!  I did notice the times we let it cool for an hourish, the formula was bitty and not dissolved very well.

When we moved to soy formula, the formula would NOT dissolve.  I rang SMA. They told me the same thing as Aptamil, but she said that soy formula is more heat sensitive and needs hotter water, but that she legally was not allowed to tell me to make it with freshly boiled water.  ::)

Next, we moved to Nutramigen. The tin says room temperature water.  Have tried it with just boiled, have tried cooled for 30 minutes, have tried cooled for an hour - the formula won't dissolve.  Room temp, and the formula dissolves instantly.

As for sterilising, your real question!  DH and I were total sticklers for sterile bottles at first.  Would run the steriliser and then realise I needed a dummy from inside it as soon as it was done. If I opened the lid to get that dummy out but we weren't ready to make bottles *right then*, well, I ran the steriliser again.   ::)

Now that DS is older (8 months now, but I'd say about 6 months-ish) I developed the attitude that the bottles had been sterilised, but they didn't need to be sterile.  IYKWIM.  He puts everything into his mouth that hasn't been sterilised, so why bother. As long as the bottles have been run through the steriliser to kill off the remaining bacteria that washing them hasn't killed, then that's fine for me.  Although, I usually don't leave bottles sitting in for longer than a few hours before I decide to give it another run.  When I knew that was going to happen, often I took the bottles out and capped them so that they were still clean and dust wasn't going to get into them via the steam vent in the steriliser lid, then open them up when I had my water ready.

I also do the naughty government prohibited pre-making of bottles.  I make three up at about 8pm and those are for DS's 7am bkfst, 11am lunch and 3pm afternoon bottle.  Wash and run four bottles in the steriliser at about 4pm, take one out at 530pm to make his bedtime bottle and leave the other three in there until 8pm, when I make them up for the next day.  Mind you, this has gotten a bit easier since we dropped down to 4 bottles a day, but when we still had the DF, it was the same but at 530 I had to make two bottles.

In the end, I really do think it's more about coming up with a system that works best for you and falls within some sort of realistic hygiene guidelines than attempting to follow each and every rule! 

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Re: sterilising
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2009, 15:02:15 pm »
I sterilize my bottles then keep them in the fridge till I need them. I figure you can store breast milk like this so why not empty bottles?!

I make my feed up fresh but it only takes seconds. The milk powder isn't sterile so needs adding to hot water.

Say I want to make 7oz feed

I put 3oz boiling water into a bottle
Add 7 scoops of milk
Add 4oz of boiled cooled water from the fridge
This temp is ready to drink and is fresh

At night I use a flask for the boiling water and take a bottle of boiled cooled water too.
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2009, 15:49:13 pm »
thanks everyone, im glad im not the only one trying to be vaguely practical! I have moved to sterilising at 10am for 11,3 and 6.30 bottle and then again in evening for DF and 7am bottle. I store them empty in the steriliser then make them up before we need them (of course if EASY is working, he always has a sleep before the feed!!!!!lol!!!) but take hot water and powder separate if we go out.  Thanks
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Re: sterilising
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2009, 20:16:40 pm »
I won't get into the whole boiling water and making up ahead of time because there does seem to be different rules.

As for bottle and nipple cleaning, I would put them in the dishwasher to be cleaned/sterilized.  Those bottles would then go to the clean cabinet ready for use.

Can I add, I am a freak about germs.  I was with #1 who was 1 month early.  #2 was 3 months early.  She came home at 34 weeks premature.  Handling the sterizatation of bottles and nipples, this way, was never a problem for a premature baby.  Plus the hospital was fine with this sort of cleaning.  I think that says something.   Again, I was always a freak and still need to be a freak about germs in order to keep her healthy until she reaches a certain age. 

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Re: sterilising
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2009, 12:16:28 pm »
I will have to admit, I never sterilized the bottles.  I boiled them after opening them for the 1st time and after that, I would sit them in warm soapy water and wash or run them in the dishwasher.  Both my boys seem to be fine so who knows.


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Re: sterilising
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2009, 19:49:10 pm »
If I had a dishwasher I would just use that too as it basically does the same job.
Archies mummy - I make up feeds in exactly the same way it's much quicker isn't it.

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Re: sterilising
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2009, 08:57:40 am »
Yep Yep Yep!!!

I got fed up of waiting an hr for bottles to cool! Also as the government recommend feeding on demand this really is impossible! Not that I feed on demand anymore but you know .......
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Re: sterilising
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2009, 09:26:38 am »
Another thing to bear in mind is that formula (at least in the UK) is not sterile in powder form and therefore should be mixed with boiled water AT LEAST 60 degrees (preferably 70degrees - c. 20-30 post boiling).  Also, if you have the really hard bottles (bottles that don't give when you press them), then they no doubt contain BPA so you shouldn't be putting boiling water into these bottles as it increases the risk of BPA making it into the milk.

The best way round these two issues is to sterilise all your bottles & boil the kettle.  20 mins after the kettle has boiled (I used to set my oven timer), take the bottles out of the steriliser and fill them with the required amount of boiled water.  Then mix the formula and then store them in the fridge.  Mixed formula is good in the fridge for 24 hrs.

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