stuck

[banu]

i had really hard days since my son was borned. but i am really stuck this time. he is 16 w now. i have re-tought independent sleeping to my lo few weeks ago.

* i use wi/wo method. it worked 2 days.
* then he started to cry again, and i used this method again, but my lo vomitted.
* then i try to walk in every 5 sec. it worked again but only 2 days
* then i tried wi/wo method with 5 sec wait period again, but he vomitted
* then i started to sleep with him, but he prefferd to play, and he slept 1,5 h later
* then i started to stay in the room but he criyed and vomitted
- i did not realize that my son's A time is extended and he was ready for 1 nap-

summery: * if i leave him even if only 5 sec cry, he vomits (does not matter if i am in the room or walk in)
* if i lay down with him, he plays

he sleeps 1 nap now, but how will i re-teach him independent sleeping again with the situaion i explained above???

help ladies

[Shiv52]

SOrry things are so rough at the minute.

I would leave WI/WO for the minute.  GW is probably the way to go but if he's crying and being sick even with you in the room you may have to sit/lie very close to him initially and then fade back.

Where are you sitting in the room when you were in before? 

{{hugs}}

[banu]

i was on the other side of the room, i was not near him -but his room is a small room-
what if he plays/cries if i sit close to him?

[Shiv52]

I would sit close by to his cot where he can see you clearly and know you are there.  If he's playing and carrying on I would just ignore him and continue to sit where you are. If he's crying just reassure him and say 'its ok mummy's here its time for night-night' and then resume your sitting.  Hopefully if you are closer for a few nights there'll be no vomiting.

How much A time is he having before bed?  Not OT/UT?  

[babybarr]

Just want to clarify Banu - is your LO 16 wks or 16mths? 

[banu]

my lo is 16 months,

when he had 2 naps, he had 4 h A time. he has 5 h or more A time now. he sleeps sometimes 2 h somtimes 2.45 h. i couldnt find anything which make sense to me what depends his sleep time. (on the other he has no problem to sleep after 2.5 h A time with his caregiver. she always puts her hand on his back till he sleeps.)

[babybarr]

Could you post you actual routine for us to see, then I guess there may be some tweaking.  How long has he been on the one nap for now?

[banu]

7 wu
11-12 nap1
15-16.30 nap 2
20:30 night sleep

our weekend routine had one nap:
7:30 wu
12.30-14:30 or 15:30 nap
19:30 night sleep

now -for 4 days-
7 wu
12.30 - 14.30 or 15.30 nap
20:30-21:30 sleep

according to me 5 h A time is still much, 4.30 A time is his A time, but he does not sleep. so i decided to take 1 nap so he will be OT and fall in sleep by BF. as the subjct mentioned i am stucked. but he still falls in sleep in half an hour if i m lucky. but his caregiver can sleep him easily

[babybarr]

Do you always BF before he sleeps?

Also a 3hr nap seems rather a lot, that may not be helping him wanting to sleep at night.

[banu]

i always BF him before night sleep.
what do you suggest? i was thinking 5 h A time and 3 h nap is OK. (from 7 am to 8.30 pm)

[babybarr]

i always BF him before night sleep.

Does he fall asleep at the breast was what I meant really

Yes try the 5hrs A time and 3hr nap and see what happens.

[banu]

i dont genarally allow fall asleep on BF but i do nowadays

i have been tring 5h A time and 2 to 3h nap for 4 days; he can easly fall asleep at naps by his caregiver but does not sleep by me for night sleep.

[babybarr]

i dont genarally allow fall asleep on BF but i do nowadays

Maybe he has come to expect this from you and obviously doesn't get it from his caregiver!

[banu]

but i ve been BF him for 4 days, after he vomited or played in the cot. my problem occured appx 2-3 weeks ago

[banu]

i have to try re-teach independent sleeping as soon as posible.i cannot stand any more.

the problem occur in one day. his A time was 4 h but he stopped to fall in sleep at nights - he has no problem during the naps and does not matter A time-
then i decided to extend his A time. it is now 5 or 5,30 h. but he does not look like asleep. althoug i wrote i BF him to fall asleep nowadays, he does not sleep on the BF. i pray everynight if he can sleep by BF but he continued to play. he is yawninig but does not sleep. i bf him by force just to fall asleep
how will i re-teach him? (i wrote before, if he cries he vomits) what is the A time at the age 16 m?