wi/wo and withdrawal, but he vomits

[banu]

i have a serious problem.

before: after i say a lullby i used to lay my lo to his bed and he used to fall asleep exactly at that time,  every mother's dream.

now: he sleeps with us, at our bed and he falls asleep after 30-45 min later for 3 months. i am about to drive nuts.

our routine:
wu: 7 am
nap: 12-15
naight sleep: 20:30

i tried to put him in his bed but he vomited each time. i did walk in walk out and Withdrawal methods but he continued to vomit. i am pregnant again and it seems it is getting hard to make him sleep with growing belly. he plays, kicks, stands up and wants to out of bed and very hard to keep him in the bed and finally make him sleep. i discovered how wonderfull to sleep wiht your little during this time but  i will need more time when the number 2 came and i dont want spend too much time.

summary: i want my lo to sleep in his bed again and i want him fall asleep more quickly. my DH is ready to help me also. he or i can do. but i am afraid my lo vomits with me again. how can i re-teach him independent sleep, and make him fall asleep quickly?

[deb]

This may sound counter-intuitive, but if he's crying so hard he vomits, then I'd go ahead and for now let him sleep with you. Can you put a crib in your room for him so he's near you, or can you have a mattress in his room so you (or even better DH) can be there with him? If he doesn't get past this BEFORE the baby, you're going to have two problems to deal with instead of one at a time. If you're not comfortable with WI/WO or WD, can DH take a few shifts?

I forget, how long till the new baby?

[banu]

i can put a crip or mattress. but i am sure he will vomits again. i was near him at our withdrawal method but he vomitted. i thoght to remove the bed rails and stay near him but on the other hand he can get out off the bed.

what if try with mh DH first, he may be does not vomit with him. my other anxiety is my DH can change the plan while our lo cries instead of do what exactly i said.

[koe2moe]

some hugssss for you!  We have been down that road until 2 months ago.  We didn't co-sleep as such but when DS woke in the night, we brought him to our bed, gave him a bottle and he stayed in our bed so that hopefully we could all get some more sleep and we usually did.  

We got him back into his own bed and got him to take his bottle in his own bed but he was still waking and needing that bottles.  3 weeks ago we weaned those off also.  DS will be 16 mo tomorrow, so ours are in the same age.

Have you ever sleep-trained your child?  Have you used WI/WO before with success?  I used to sleep next to DS's cot on a mattress.  That was the first time getting him back to his cot.  I found that he went down easier knowing that I was next to him.  (That was after very bad illness for the first time in his life back in Jan.)  The third night, he didn't even wake and I didn't have to lay in his room.

Not sure if I could help but would like to share my experience and offer some hugssss

I typed this up while you're trying yours.  Why did he vomit?  from crying too much? 

[banu]

he had a wonderful sleep: after i say a lullby i used to lay my lo to his bed and he used to fall asleep exactly at that time

after he had had a chill, he started to vomits and he vomited at sleep times too. at the beginnig he vomitted after a long cry, but he vomited after 3 sec. 3 days later.

[deb]

If he's vomiting and not even crying, you might want to get that looked at by a doctor. That sounds a little odd to me.

[koe2moe]

banu, i agree with Deb.  Does he only vomit in his cot and not in your bed? 

[banu]

no no, he cried too much, but he vomited earlier than the day before. i might get used to vomit or he felt too upset. i vomited when i put him to the crip at my last try. then i couldt try again.

[deb]

Do you have access to the book The No-Cry Sleep Solution by Elizabeth Pantley? It has a lot of different concrete ideas on how to gradually get your child from co-sleeping to independent sleep without the full-on crying and puking. Highly highly recommend!!!

[banu]

i will search it. probaply not sold. i was once search her other books but cant find. i live abroad

[banu]

unfortunatly that book is not sold here, i looked at the net. i am too desparate. i cant spend 45 min at nights wiht no.1 when the no2 came.

[deb]

Where do you live? Does Amazon not ship your way? If I had my copy still I'd send it to you directly; maybe I can find you a copy here and ship it.

Meanwhile, try starting here http://www.pantley.com/elizabeth/advice/0071381392.php and here http://www.pantley.com/elizabeth/books/0071381392.php.

[squeakersmum]

How long has he been being sick for?

I ask because my DS seems to always get sick after he has had a cold and often crying, or coughing will bring on a vomiting episode.

For us it lasts for about a week and we have found that it often happens at night, particularly if he gets himself worked up.

Steph XXX

[marlowsmom]

Can I suggest that if he is so afraid of the his crib could you try play time in his room?   Take some toys in there and play on the floor for a couple of days then move it into his crib.    Play peek-a-boo while he is in the crib.     Let him know that the crib is a safe fun place too.    Maybe he won't be so inclined to vomit when you try to put him in his crib to sleep.

[nona]

((hugs)).

have you ever heard of gradual withdraw? i tried this w/ my toddler this past summer. it worked the first time but not the 2nd (!!) but anyway that is another long story and i think it def depends on the personality of your child.

the BW book BW Solves All Your problems has a great section on GW. i'm sure there is a FAQ somewhere on this board.

http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=80750.0

anyway, what we did was put a mattress on the floor in his room. i slept on the mattress and he slept in his crib. the mattress was very close to teh bed. then you slowly move the mattress away from the crib each night. then you switch from the mattress to a chair. anyway, it takes a while but it is gentle.

the no cry sleep book is good too. i hope you can find a copy...

where does he nap?

what is your bedtime routine now?  what happens when your Dh puts him to bed?