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PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!
« on: October 06, 2011, 03:21:29 am »
Things were going great with our almost 1 year old daughter's sleep sched. (her birthday is in 3 days). We "trained" her when she was about 6 mos. old, and got to the point where all we had to do was lie her down, give her a kiss, and leave. She'd sometimes fuss a bit, but be asleep within minutes. Then a couple weeks ago, she realized she could stand up and walk around in her crib, and now bedtime has become horrible!
I have both babywhisperer books (read both cover to cover), and I've spent countless hours on this forum. I've read virtually everything I could find, looking for a solution. Here's what I've tried: spending activity time giving her lots of practice standing, sitting, walking, etc, in hopes that she'd get tired, get sick of it, and also to make sure she knows how to lay back down after she's stood (she does). I tried letting her walk around her crib in hopes that she'd wind down and go to sleep. She spent 2 1/2 hours at it, and by then nap time was WAY over. I've tried standing there and gently pushing her back down when she tries to stand up. Tried standing outside the door and going in and laying her back down every time she stands. It became a game to her very quickly. I've just recently been letting her stand up and cry for 2 to 4 mins. in hopes that she'd get sick of the whole thing and go to sleep. (I've been going down after 4 mins. to comfort her). I decided tonight I can't continue that. Even letting her cry for 4 mins. is too much. I know I sound like a wimp, but she's SCREAMING a blood-curdling cry. I can't bear it. Last night she basically screamed like that for 2 hours, and it felt like "cry it out" even though we kept going in every 4 min. to comfort her. It's absolutely not a mantra cry, and I'm afraid I've damaged her trust because tonight when I gave in and sat holding her hand, she kept startling awake and looking to make sure I was still there. Broke my heart.  At nap time I've just given in and I now hold her to sleep, then lay her down.
Here is our easy:
8am awake
E (4 oz.bottle and solids after I've had some coffee)
A
S Around 1130am, about 3 1/2 hours after wake. I hold her to sleep she sleeps about 45 min.
A
E Around 2 or 230pm (4 oz.bottle and solids)
A
S 330pm. Sleeps 45 min.to an hour.
A
E Around 7 pm (8 oz.bottle) and bedtime routine begins.
S Between 730 and 8pm.
 
I think our schedule is fine. It was working great until she started standing in her crib. 2 weeks ago I used to be able to just lie her down in her crib and she'd go to sleep. For naps and bedtime.

What should I do? When I was trying to just put her down when she stood, it became a game for her very quickly. Maybe I just haven't been consistent enough?  Please help. I'm a wreck.

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Re: PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2011, 04:35:27 am »
Ok, my husband and I have decided to try the gradual withdrawal technique, because the last couple days have been really hard and she's been more upset than I've ever seen her.

Someone please clarify, with this method, how do we handle her standing up all the time? Do we put her down and then hold her hand to sleep?

Any tips very much appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2011, 04:55:31 am »
Don't know about the gradual withdrawal technique - but with her naps going all funny, maybe she needs more A time and is starting the 2-1 nap transition? Have you seen this thread?

http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=95670.msg918693#msg918693

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Re: PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2011, 06:41:28 am »
Hi there :) Sorry you are having such a rough time.

I agree with PP, the link above may help.

Here's some info on GW http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=80750.0
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Re: PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2011, 01:37:59 am »
Thanks, I have already read those links. Our babe is def. in an awkward 2 to 1 nap phase. Her nap Schedule was tweaked recently and that's what you see above. I really don't think she's under or over tired. She's sleepy at her naptimes and bedtime. If we hold her, she'll zonk out in minutes. We've tried early bedtime (630pm), but WITHOUT FAIL that results in night wakings, where she won't get herself back to sleep.

It's really just her determination to remain standing up. She'll be SOOOO tired, when I lay her down, her eyes will roll back and she'll start to fall asleep, then wills herself to get up again!!! It's ridiculous.

I read the GW link above. We thought we'd try GW because the last few nights were very close to her cio- which we never intended.

Prior to her standing up, she'd go to sleep on her own, and we didn't have to deal w/night wakings, because she'll put herself back to sleep if she wakes (she'll still do that for the most part) it's just getting her to sleep at bedtime.

SO- if we try GW, how do we handle her standing up all the time? Do we put her down and then hold her hand to sleep? Again and again?

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Re: PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2011, 22:00:04 pm »
Anyone?    :)

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Re: PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2011, 22:10:24 pm »
Hi hun sorry I'll be back in the morn but just quickly I did not PD, just repeated "lie down darling" She got way way upset if I repeatedly lay her down xx
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Re: PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2011, 10:39:17 am »
Hi there sorry you're having such a rough time.

So I did (started) GW with my DD when she was 12/13m, she had never been an independent sleeper so it was slightly different. But what I did was lie next to her cot on a mattress and just repeat the sleepy phrase (lie down darling it's time to go to sleep now) I tried not to interact with her (hard when she's playing and laughing :P) and just kept calm and consistent. For me, she had to learn to lie herself down, me lying her down was just not helping, she either thought it was a game or got v upset. The first night I lay next to her for 2.5 hours before she finally fell asleep. Oh and I did the same for NWs. Does that help at all?

What's your current routine now? x 
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Re: PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2011, 12:36:07 pm »
Sorry, I haven't actually had to do GW myself so am not an awful lot of help there - hopefully Charli's experience will help.
Catherine x