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Going backwards, increasing NWs at 18 weeks...
« on: October 25, 2011, 08:06:37 am »
Hi,

I'm back again... we seem to be making no progress with our NWs, in fact going backwards would about sum it up. Can't figure it out as I know she is a good independent sleeper (self settles for naps and bedtime) I have answered the general questions, would love a fresh pair of eyes to take a look and see if there is anything I am missing?

How old is your child? 18 weeks
What’s his/her daily routine? EASY posted below
What’s nap routine? Watch for cues and the clock - she's tough to read. Swaddle, quiet song, a cuddle / sway in our arms, into moses basket. Generally goes down pretty well, doesn't need much help although fought naps yesterday but seems ok today.
How long are naps? Generally a good napper - 2hrs. Have been having some 45m wake ups, but will resettle with a dummy. No dummy used to put her to sleep, only to extend naps when absolutely necessary.
What's bedtime routine? Time? bath, into sleep suit, into sleeping bag, final feed upstairs in her room, very quiet and low key. Usually around 6.45-7pm
Do you bottle or breastfed?? Gave up BF about 3 weeks ago, now FF.
How much? or how long?  If we can make it to 3.5hr feeds she takes about 5-6oz per feed. Some more, some less.
If breastfed.. one side or both?? (at each feed)
How many wakes per night? Last night she woke at 1am and resettled herself, then at 3.30am and we offered a feed, she took some (couple of oz max.) then woke again at 4.20am, and again at 5.40am. Previous nights she has gone til about 4am then is very unsettled between 4-6am.
What’s your LO like when waking at night? How long is he/she up? Fusses, then escalates to a moderate cry, we have tried waiting a few mins to see if it's just a settling cry but it does seem to escalate. She is only up for minutes, often just needs a pick up or turn over.
When you go to him/her is she fussing or crying? Or is it a mantra cry? as above. Last night - 1 mantra cry, and resettled. Then other ones needed our help.
What have you tried to settle?? We are keen to avoid using a dummy, and she isn't difficult to resettle. We just can't figure out what is waking her.
What do you do for A time and how long is it? Varies - usually on play mat or chair. I have a broken ankle so we're not out and about much.
Are there developmental issues such as teething or milestones? Possible teething - not sure, she is dribbly and gnawing but no sign of a tooth, but doesn't seem to make any difference if we give her calpol at bedtime...
Have you introduced cereal? Why, how much, and how many times a day? (for LO’s under 6 months) No, she doesn't seem all that hungry, but have been thinking weaning may be worth a try even though it's earlier than I would like!
Do they have a prop? If so what is it? No. We are using a dummy occasionally to extend naps but she always goes to sleep on her own, and usually stays asleep for naps, and is able to sleep from BT at 7am til these unsettled periods arise.
Do they have a lovie? No, have tried to introduce a little cuddly blanket but she isn't bothered.

Will post EASY in a subsequent post as the page keeps jumpng up to the top and I can't see what I'm typing!



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Re: Going backwards, increasing NWs at 18 weeks...
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2011, 08:15:33 am »
Here is yesterday's EASY.

E 8am Awake, Eat at 8.15am
A Awake for 1hr 30, looked tired, fought nap
S 9.30am Slept for 2hrs with 45m wake up, but resettled with dummy til 11.30am.
E 11.30am awake, fed at 11.45am
A Awake for 1hr 45m, looked tired, fought nap!
S 1.15pm Slept for 1hr45, but with 45m wake up as above.
E 3pm awake, 3.15pm feed
A Awake for 1hr 45
S 4.45pm sleep - no fighting nap, no 45m wake up.

awake at just before 6pm, did bath, book, BT routine.
S - put down at just after 7pm. Settled but cried out twice, needed a quick PUPD. Asleep about 7.30-7.45pm

NWs - 1am (resettled herself) this was an unusual wake up though.
3.30am - took a small feed, we have gone many nights without feeding though so feel that she isn't really hungry.
4.20am - woke up, quick resettle (picked up, put back down again)
5.40am - woke up, again as above.
Woke for today at 6.50am.

Totally puzzled as I know she can put herself to sleep, so why the trouble at night? Have tried to rule out as many of the usual culprits (pain / temperature etc...) Is this a normal phase or is this related to her daytime routine being "wrong" in some way...

Thanks,
Rachel. x

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Re: Going backwards, increasing NWs at 18 weeks...
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2011, 02:34:43 am »
Hi Rachel, I'm going through the exact same issue with my 19 week lo. Exact same night wakings - very similar EASY routine although quite often he only does an hour nap. I've started moving him to a 4 hour EASY routine, so he was up a little longer today during his A times and I managed to resettle him when he woke at the 45 minute mark for his naps so he slept for 1 1/2 hours most times. He goes down great at BT. But he's always had night wakings, luckily we've managed to stop feeding him at night as we know he's not actually hungry. Perhaps just into habitual waking now? I'm going to try the wake to sleep method and see how it goes tonight.
I'm very interested to hear any advice given here from other BW'ers - best of luck to you!
Carla

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Re: Going backwards, increasing NWs at 18 weeks...
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2011, 08:30:22 am »
Thanks Carla...

I was wondering about habitual waking, but it seems to be at different times. Last night she went til 5.10am which was the best night we've had in ages. Aside from GS periods, she has been a good night sleeper and had slept through (albeit inconsistently) from as early as 6 or 7 weeks old...

Hopefully it is just a phase that we'll come out of, but has been going on for a few weeks with the odd good night here and there...

Best of luck with your battle too! Let me know how W2S goes for you.

Rachel. x