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« on: November 16, 2011, 07:05:58 am »
Hi  :(

Lately it seems to be one thing after another with DS. We had a few days relief from what I thought was molar trouble but no sign yet. Now DS is screaming at nap and BT. I have never seen my little man so upset. I CAN NOT leave him. If I try GW or WI/WO he bangs his head off the wall and gets soo wound up which results in NW'ings and EW's. We have never had any success with WI/WO it frustrates the hell out of Sam and there is no settling him in order to WO.

Our EASY has been 5 hours to nap, then 6 hours to BT. However WU's have been totally inconsistent lately. Suspecting that A times may be too short I have extended 30 mins to nap time and BT at the moment. The last 2 nights because I stayed with him he slept through but this morning  he woke at 5.35 which means just 9 hrs 50 sleep from a baby who was sleeping 12 hours. His naps have been shorter naturally..around 1hr 20 mins, but when longer I suspect I may need to cap at 1.5 now if he has had a night longer than 11 hours.

Ladies my 'Mother's instinct tells me this is not a sleep issue IYKWIM  ???

He recently developed SA for me (2 weeks) and even Daddy won't do.

He is also reaching that huge talking milestone. Repeating everything and stringing 3 words together...talking in long sentences of key words and actions.

This morning I cried too because I'm tired and fed up and my house is upside down and my ironing pile to the sky. I feel drained. I was so strong when I did initial 'sleep training' now I feel useless. Do you think it takes more strength as time goes, when it can seem like one thing after another  ???

DS is a delightfull little boy and I'm lucky that he is happy during the day and handles OT as well as can be expected so I really shouldn't grumble.

I have seen another thread of a little boy who is older than Sam doing the same thing. Is this something I need to just AP him through  ??? I suspect so. It just feels like a huge step back from where we were.

Thanks for letting me rant. I am praying you have some words of wisdom out there.

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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2011, 07:56:24 am »
(hugs)  :-* I feel in a similar boat with DS ATM so know how you feel, sometimes it's just 1 thing after another and it's tiring isn't it.

TBH I think if you feel this
Ladies my 'Mother's instinct tells me this is not a sleep issue IYKWIM  ???
you are probably right. I always start to freak out about the APing and then a few days later he comes right on his own and my gut was right.


I quite like this site for reading up on the known developmental leaps. (wonder weeks) she mentions another period 22-24 months..may be worth a read.
http://blogginaboutbabies.wordpress.com/category/toddler/2010/08/13/wonder-weeks-13-24-months/#entry
 Not sure if it will make you feel a little less alone in what you are going through. Sometimes I feel Zacs entire life has been one gigantic wonder week ::)

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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2011, 08:10:27 am »
Thank you so much Honey. I am also a big fan of investigating WW's. I actually did a search because it was my first thought but couldn't find anything for his age. Thanks so much for the link  ;). It's wierd but I just remembered a WW when he would scream when put in his cot!  :o How quickly we forget.

I also feel Sam's life is one big Wonder Week sometimes  ::).  ::) It's no Wonder I feel Week LOL.

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ETA: The link doesn't open for me. That's happened before when I've done a search. I think it's time to buy the book.



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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2011, 08:26:38 am »
WW are terrible in this house too, screaming and fussy, clingy etc. you are right there isn't one as such but thus lady talks about the period 22-24 mths where there is WW behavior ;)

Try this http://blogginaboutbabies.wordpress.com/category/toddler/#!/page/1 then find the post Wonder weeks 13-24 weeks.

I know developmental stuff doesn't fix the problems, but it does URL us at least understand sometimes.

Lol re no wonder you feel week, at least you know your brain still works smartie pants ;)
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2011, 06:41:08 am »
Hiya: An update and not a good one  :'(.

We're into several nights of short sleeps between 8.5 and 9.5 hrs. Also NW every night hence the latter.

I am exhausted and my Baba has bags and shadows. Last night asleep 7.15 NW 9.45..sat with him back to sleep around 10.05. NW 10.45..DH went in..asleep again around 11 or possibly settled on his own as DH left both of our bedroom doors open, don't know if it helped..maybe.

EW 5.15. Tried everything, no joy. Up at 6.15.  Now he's severely OT. This is day 9 since this started. So we're facing a secondary problem to the one we started with. Tonight I'm going to go for EBT in the hope it will help him catch up. I'm not getting much sleep because of the ENW I can't go to bed early.

Problem also is since we've been staying with him he's not SS in the night as he wants us there too and there may be an element of 'where's Mammy gone' when he wakes. Tonight I think I need to move on with GW and stay outside the door, talking to him through a small gap. I need to get out now as I'm sure I'm becoming a prop. What do you think  ??? Any advice welcome  ???

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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2011, 08:07:55 am »
I'm not sure I can give you much help as I'm having exactly the same problem right now. My son is 23months old and the problems all started about 3 weeks ago. PRior to this he was STTN for almost a year apart from teething. I think he is getting his 2nd year molar but the WW blog was really interesting. He's going through a lot of what the blogger mentioned as the 22-24 month WW. For the past 3 days, he's been waking up just about every hour of the night. I've had to go sleep with him a couple of nights just so everyone could get some sleep. Luckily whenever he woke, I could just pat him back to sleep. When he first started resisting BT, I tried gradual withdrawal where I was sitting next to his bed for 3 days, gradually moved closer to the door for another 3 days, next to the door for 3 days and then managed to get outside the door. BUt last weekend he skipped a nap on SUnday and since then, everything went downhill. I'm starting GW again today but he's still getting NW. But I do think (like you) that I have to wean him of having me in his room all the time, or it will start to become a habit!!

Sorry for the rant but it's been at least a bit comforting to know that we're not the only ones going through this.

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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2011, 08:20:48 am »
Hi Sweetie,

Thanks so much, I'm sorry you're having troubles too but it does help to know you're not the only one. It feels like such a huge step back when your LO has been SS for months, like you we only had the usual teething problems inbetween. There are lots of posts like ours if you search the archives, it does stop at some point, but becoming a prop is a problem. One lady suggest a talk back baby monitor  ??? may be an idea, at least we wouldn't have to get out bed...well maybe we wouldn't.

I will be outside the door tonight, good luck to you! I bet you're shattered like me. I wish the little monkeys would realise mammy's need sleep too  ::).

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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2011, 20:23:17 pm »
An update for your folks.

Today I moved outisde the door for DS nap and spoke through the gap our 'Key Phrases. Sam did some crying and a lot of blankie/dummy throwing but went over after 30 mins was asleep. He only slept 1.15 as our neighbout was doing D.I.Y. home improvements in the room next door to Sam, so the hammering woke him up at 1hr 15  ::). He was up at 5.05 after a bad night so his nap was really early and he was up by 11.35 so I knew EBT was in order.

BT PD at 6.05. I did the same thing and there was no screaming and only a couple of mins of crying then just lots of checking I was still there and telling me 'Mammy chair!' to try and get me to come in and sit where I was yesterday..bless him. He was asleep by 6.25  :D. I am really happy with this progress and hopefull we're coming out the other side FX'd  :-X :-X :-X !

I expect some NW and another EW but hopefully he will benefit from an extra hour from EBT. I am shattered. DH and I will be in bed by 9pm..no doubt Sam will wake at 9.10  ::).

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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2011, 23:22:24 pm »
Sweetie that is great progress :D I sometimes think they are ready for more independence but need use to help them get there. Ware n a similar boat at the moments with Zac recovering from his MMRs and me feeding him when I shouldn't. Today we are back to sleep training...so will have tears no doubt, but it always seems to only be a few days before he is fine again. I think at this age they kind of know a bit more so if we sleep train right for them they come right quickly.

Sending you sleepy vibes for all of you! Hang in there.
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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2011, 07:07:47 am »
Good Morning Hon,

Aah bless Zac. You are right though, every time you start to come out of the other side you stop panicking so much and have faith in yourself again. I hope he's back on track soon.

Sam slept through the night from 6.25 to 6am  :D I'm so relieved and happy. I went to bed at 9.15 and so did DH  :o He said to me 'Where did it all go wrong?' LOL. Anyway I feel much better too.

Nap will be at 5.5 A time and BT I will play be ear.

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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2011, 07:32:40 am »
Lol we have this too sometimes, just as I'm about to lose the plot we have a perfect night and day and I get my sleep too! Sounds like you have got things before they got out of control....hope tonight goes well too :-*
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2011, 19:06:10 pm »
Another good day  :)

1.5 nap with 15 mins to settle (outside the door)

EBT PD 6.25and wait for it.........no crying  ;D just a 'Mammy chair!' request before I left the room (bless him  :'() then he lay down and settled straight away, 5 mins later I closed the gap in the door and 10 mins later crept whilst holding my breathe downstairs.

The only 'fly in the ointment' is his molars are now seriously bulging. This afternoon he was in bad form. Clingy..whingy..nose streamin..mouth slavering and when he cuddled up on my knee I realised he was very hot  so I've given meds. One hour later he had really perked up. I hope :P the bloomin' teething doesn't perpetuate the NW  ::).

If it's not one thing it's another eh!!! ::).

Zacsmumme:

How is he now  ??? Did the MMR's affect him badly  ??? I hope he's okay and that the sleep training is taking hold.

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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2011, 19:51:55 pm »
Great day ! Ick I know what you mean re teeth :( we have this here, a few good weeks then rubbish again with teeth or bugs :(
Last night he STTN so no idea what is going on, this kid is up and down. Yah the MMRs did affect him pretty badly, diarrhea, temp, clammy, runny nose, grouchy as! I think he is coming right now. The dr did say he had stronger side effects than most but he had them early at 12 mths as there is a possible out break in NZ at the moment. Usually the first vacs for MMR are at 15 months.
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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2011, 20:18:11 pm »
Aaaw poor little mite  :'( Well on the positive side at least it's done! I hate having Sam vaccinated, I cried every time  :'(  ::) and it's worse when they get older because they give you 'The Look'

Hope he STTN again fingers and everything else crossed Hon.

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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2011, 06:52:58 am »
Oh Poo! Molars bulging, Sam went down with no crying  :D then woke at 6 hrs after meds (no suprise) gave more meds and he was awake for 1.50   :'(  I have a bad back from lying on the floor outside and we were up at 5.50. That's 9.5 hrs for Sam and 4.5 sleep for me. I could practically swim in his drool this morning. Think this may be another long haul.

Here we bloody go again.

Proper sick.x.