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OMG what was that?
« on: November 25, 2011, 03:37:00 am »
I have written a few posts on here lately and have been very bad at following them up. Things are so crazy right now, I can't seem to keep up with them. So, sorry to be starting yet another thread.

I am beside myself ATM. Was going to post on the couch as I really need to vent but I know it is down in honour of Tracy's passing...I just spent almost 3 hours trying to resettle DS3 who is 16mo now. My whole evening is gone and it's just been such a long hard week. It's not helping that dh is being a $&^$ and is not talking to me because I said he was being elusive and seemed distant. Really??? (Sorry, I know it's not the place, but I did say I needed the couch  :P).

Anyway, some background. DS has been sick. Started last Wednesday and just yesterday I had him at the doctors - another ear infection and possible strep throat (although I suspect that will come back negative). Anyway, he has been miserable and not eating (completely refusing meals, acts hungry and wants food but pushes it away and says 'no' when I give it too him), and not sleeping well. He is still falling asleep by himself but has been waking in pain. We are also still stuck at a 4:30 am wu, no matter when he goes to sleep. This is getting harder and harder to deal with. Both dh and I work full time. We have 2 other boys and illness is running through the family now.

The other issue is that he's cutting a molar (at least one) and I think that's contributing to things. His finger is in his mouth a lot. So, he is waking during the night. Sometimes once, (last night). The night before was 4 times in the early part of the night. The only way to settle him right now is by nursing him (although I could nurse a few minutes and put him down awake). He refuses dh and gets more upset when he goes in. He is still falling asleep completely independently at nap and bedtime.

Tonight. He was awful in the evening before bed. I think he's OT and would have put him down earlier but DH is insisting on pushing BT to move his wu time. I have put him down as early as 5:20 and he sleeps better and more often sttn, but is still up at 4:30. I managed to get him calm to go to bed and he fell asleep easily by 6, without a peep.

But then he woke at 7:20 and basically wanted to spend the night on the boob. He cried and screamed when I put him down. I would try staying by the crib, rubbing his back as he stood there grabbing at me, leaving the room. Nothing worked. This went on till 10pm. :o :o :o He would not fall back to sleep. I couldn't leave him to CIO because I know he's not feeling well and his finger was in his mouth so much. In the end I finally told him there was no more nursing and rocked and patted him to sleep in my arms, but still could put him down. In the end I had to lie beside him in his crib, after giving him another dose of meds. I can't remember the last time he has been this bad or up for so long. I have no idea what tomorrow will be like.

Anyway, I guess I need someone to say, no this is not an exploding case of a prop and his tooth/ear, whatever was just too painful for him to sleep, even with meds. I just can't face this as our new reality as the rest of our life is so hectic and busy, we are barely hanging on right now.

Thanks for any words of encouragement or advice.
Becky,
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Re: OMG what was that?
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2011, 04:37:22 am »
Hugs sweetie, I will be back later but am sick ATM so just popping in quickly.
I feel for you, we too had a night of DS wanting to hang out on the boob at a NW and screaming off it. I know he is poorly but you get to that breaking point and you know the APOP is going to have to be undone and it's so tiring!

Hang in there Hun, things will come right :-*
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Re: OMG what was that?
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2011, 08:17:15 am »
Hugs. Sounds like you are having a really rough time. I personally think you are doing the right thing by comforting him however you can. ( manys the time ive  een so relieved to be b feeding as it really does comforg them) If he is falling asleep independently I'm sure it won't turn into a prop issue. I find that all bets are off when they are sick! Sorry not to be of much help. It's always doubly hard when you do t feel supported by your partner, so hugs for that too. I hate it when they retreat into their 'man cave'.



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Re: OMG what was that?
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2011, 17:40:28 pm »
Agree with pp, do what you can to get through the now.  If it does become a prop you will tackle it accordingly, when everyone is feeling better and you can manage it.  Right now just get everyone well and do what you need to do.  He needs you.

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Re: OMG what was that?
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2011, 14:57:12 pm »
Thanks for the support ladies. Last night was much better although he wouldn't eat dinner and was just so fussy. Put him down early again and was asleep by about 5:30 or so and slept through till 4:45. Was great when he first woke then so fussy and wanting to be held all the time. STill thinking maybe it's teeth or ears. He keeps grabbing at his teeth like he wants to rip them out  :P.
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Re: OMG what was that?
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2011, 18:42:08 pm »
Hugs Hun. You think he could have a virus too, there are some nasties out there :(
You are totally ding the right thing. Things will come right, just do what works for you and him. We are all here for you :-*
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Re: OMG what was that?
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2011, 01:47:29 am »
Yeah, I think there have been a bunch of things going on. He started with a fever and cough a week and a half ago. Since then he's had diarrhea, a bad cough, a rash on his cheeks on and off and I suspect a sore throat (they tested for strep but we haven't heard anything so I suspect it was negative). He did come out with another ear infection and is on antibiotics. DS1 was home sick on Monday with nausea, etc. DS2 was home on Thursday and was quite sick last night and today with diarrhea and nausea.

So, I suspect that DS3 caught a stomach bug as well as an upper respiratory infection and is teething. He has been so strange with food. He was losing it by 4 today, but finally ate a proper dinner and seemed much better afterwards. But we are dealing with such OT I think, that he is ready for bed by 5, but, of course, up for the day by 4:30 (4:45 if we are lucky). I fear our day is just going to shift earlier and earlier, but if I push him at all we get NWs.

Thanks so much for the support! This has just come at such a tough and busy time work-wise. Plus I am sick with a bad cold as well.  :P
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Re: OMG what was that?
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2011, 03:15:02 am »
I agree with the other ladies.   You are there for him and that's what he needs right now.  Must be so tough...just giving some hugs.
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Re: OMG what was that?
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2011, 01:24:19 am »
I think he is finally on the mend. Last night he ate a full supper and same tonight. But I think we are dealing with some residual sleep training issues or SA (or likely both). Do any of you find an increase in SA after illness?

DS doesn't want to go in his crib for sleep the last couple of days, which is strange because even when he really wasn't well, he at least went down without crying. I have a feeling the night feeds are contributing. Last night he woke at 2 and I BFd him but he would not go back down in his crib (again, he would have a few days ago, or a week ago - even when he was sleeping more poorly. I could just nurse a bit and toss him back in bed). Anyway, I ended up taking 1.5 hrs with him (would just start screaming and arching his back when I put him back down) and actually climbed in his bed with him and snuck out once asleep.  I couldn't be sure that he wasn't uncomfortable and he did have a bad poop this morning..

Anyway, we are having to get tougher on him now, letting him cry to sleep. I think DH will try to go in tonight if he wakes and see if he can resettle without me or the boob. It's hard not knowing if it's still pain/discomfort or just a need for retraining after the APing we were doing finally caught up to us. 
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Re: OMG what was that?
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2011, 07:21:22 am »
Glad he is on the mend Becky. Yes, I find my little boy is very clingy after being ill. It's like he doesn't really want to let go of all the attention he is getting! At the moment he has hand foot mouth :( Which is just horrid. He was up nine times last night and as I am up with the baby it is daddy who is going in to him....he is really enjoying his extra daddy time so I know that once he is better it will take a while to get back to normal.

Good luck for your DH, hope he can settle him ok. If your boob isn't really settling him anymore it probably is a good time to try and resettle him without it. Having said that if he is in pain or discomfort it really wouldn't be the best time to do sleep training. Maybe wait until you know he is definitely better?? We went through a really bad patch with my boy around the same age. Found out he was just getting recurring ear infections. Anyway, whatever you decide good luck!



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Re: OMG what was that?
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2011, 07:53:19 am »
Hun, just wanting to give you some hope. I was BF Z in the night at NW for 3 weeks following his MMR Vac. He had terrible side effects, then caught a virus (which I now have and it's hideous! ) anyway fast forward to 4 days ago and just as I was thinking my god he is never going to settle without it, he is STTN and napping without crying out again just like before. I know this could be luck. And it's early days. Still crossing fingers at night. but, remember your wee man knows how to sleep on his own, he will remember when he is better, even if you have to do a bit of training it wont be as hard as last time :-*
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Re: OMG what was that?
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2011, 22:54:45 pm »
I am trying to stay positive but it's feeling like one ate forward two steps back. Yesterday he had a 3 hr20 nap and I was thinking we were finally getting somewhere. But tonight he's just screaming at bedtime. It's like he hates his crib now and starts protesting as soon as I put him in there. He slept 11 hrs last night, though he woke twice and resettled himself. Napped 1.5 hrs at daycare but was clingy and fussy since about 4. Tried to get him down early as he was tired but he's just wailing. Am so tempted to go in right now. I know he will be up through the night again ;(. He keeps lying Aspen then up again.
All I can think is that molar that's making it's way through. What else could it be?
Becky,
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