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Offline Stellakis

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Hi, my LO is nearly 11 months old and is still waking mostly twice a night. We have a 3 year old also who were keen not to disturb in the night and therefore we feed the LO both times he wakes.
He is bottle fed, and obviously on solids (which sometimes he takes well and others not).

His routine is as follows;
Wake between 6.30-7.30 depending on night wakings. 7oz feed which he doesn't always finish, usually about 5oz.
Breakfast 8.15ish.
1st nap at 9.30/10ish, sometimes for up to an hour, sometimes only 20 mins.
Lunch 12ish.
2nd nap at 1/2ish for up to two hours.
7oz feed at 2.30/3ish, again not always finished.
If bad naps during day then a nap at 3or 4 ish I put him down for 30 mins to an hour.
Dinner at 5.30.
Bath 6.30, bed and 7oz at 7.30/8ish.

In the night he tends to wake around 11ish and I give him 5oz which he takes, then again at 3ish where to keep the peace I give him 3oz. The night wakings vary. I know I shouldn't be giving him milk but don't know how to start getting him off, and also I'm worried it won't work. He wakes crying both times, I've tried shushing, cuddling, walking back and fourth etc. but I always resort to milk. Sometimes at the 3ish waking even after having some milk he takes a long time to settle.

As you can imagine we're exhausted, some advice would be HUGELY appreciated.
It might be a big ask but I'd love a solution that is tried and tested and that I can do knowing there is an end in sight. Thank you :))

It feels like he's had a permanent cold since birth with occasional breaks, and he only has two bottom teeth through and is teething at the mo.



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If breastfed.. one side or both?? (at each feed)
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When you go to him/her is she fussing or crying? Or is it a mantra cry?
What have you tried to settle??
What do you do for A time and how long is it?
Are there developmental issues such as teething or milestones?
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Re: Help, is it hunger or habit? How do I get my LO to sleep through!
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2011, 22:43:00 pm »
Hi there, I think the NW are down to the fact that DS knows he will get a feed and so he wakes expecting this. There are a few things you can do to wean this but there will be crying as your DS protests to the changes. But remember you are right there with him and not leaving him.

So you can either wean cold turkey and use PD if he stands and cries or GW where you start sitting by the cot and move further away each night. Or you can either feed less oz or water the feed down until it is not worth your LO waking for. Let me know what you think and we can come up with a plan.



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Re: Help, is it hunger or habit? How do I get my LO to sleep through!
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2012, 22:52:16 pm »
Hi, Thanks so much for your response. I agree completely and think its habit. I'm just so annoyed with myself I've let it go on for so long!
I actually don't have the BW book so am not sure how to implement the PD method effectively, can you enlighten me? He doesn't pull himself up yet so that will be another hurdle to come.
Cold turkey sounds best to me, I really don't want to drag it out anymore than it needs to be, I'll gladly offer water or if I'm going cold turkey should this be avoided as it means picking him up?
Final question is, in theory if I go cold turkey and do PD how long am I looking at until there's an improvement? A plan would be massively appreciated and I look forward to reporting back.
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Re: Help, is it hunger or habit? How do I get my LO to sleep through!
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2012, 21:59:53 pm »
Hi again, so sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Here is a link that might help... http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=208990.0 If he isn't pulling up yet you will need to use the method appropriate for his stage rather than his age. Also check out the FAQ section on the PU/PD board as that may answer many of your questions and give you some inspiration from others who have had success. I would also suggest that you get Tracy's books from the library and have a read through, they give brilliant insight and case studies that you may relate too. There are many people who are in your situation and still give NF to 'keep the peace', so don't beat yourself up over it.

If you are going with the cold turkey method I would avoid offering water for now and just go with PU/PD. You could still feed the 5oz at 11pm for now and then just decide not to feed again before a certain time or wake up time. You can work at dropping the 11pm feed at a later stage. How does that sound?