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Re: Please please help! Can't take any more of my 8 month old NWs!
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2012, 21:11:22 pm »
Hiya becky have you looked at this thread http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=46907.msg315343#msg315343 ? (hope that link works!)

In our case, on the first night, gave him a df, which I've never done before because he always would wake at 10/11 anyway. But i picked him up gently before he woke up and made him take as much as I could. Basically kept putting himback on, both sides until he was unresponsive. Than when he woke at 3 I gave him expressed milk. Every night I diluted it more and more until it was just water (over about 4 nights).

On the 5 night I dropped the df and he didn't wake up till 3. At this point I did pu/pd for 20mins. He cried but it was more of a moany cry than screaming. The following night he went back to sleep with just a shh/pat. On the the 7th night, he cried out and rolled over and wen back to sleep without my intervention. And the he sttn for a few nights.
It didn't stick unfortunately because all this extra night sleep meant that he now needs more A time and less naptime during the day, so we got EW, so I'm having to tweak his day routine. But he now sleeps 8/7 hours solid at night rather than 3/4. He's sick at the moment, but once he's better I'm gonna wean the 3am feed the same way again.

I think it says on the above link, that night hunger becomes a habit, so you have to retrain their bellies. I know my lo would feed all night and then not take a proper morning feed and refuse breakfast. Now he has a solid feed some where between 5 and 7 and he eats his breakfast. He's even starting to wean himself of his 10/11am feed.

May be worth a try, if like me, cold turkey scares you!
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Re: Please please help! Can't take any more of my 8 month old NWs!
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2012, 22:07:03 pm »
Becky, I am in the same boat as you. I thought we were trying to drop the CN, now not so sure, but we're so messed up too. My DD goes to bed around 7/7:30 and is up by 10/11 to eat, 1:45 on the dot and then most recently 5:30/6am. I am so tired!! Like your LO, she was a great sleeper until 4 mos and then fell off the wagon. She is also EBF. So, out of desperation 2 nights ago I just picked her up, popped her paci in at the 1:45 time and she went back to sleep for 30 mins, woke and then we rocked again for another 10-15 mins while she resettled. Last night we did the same, but she never woke after the initial rock. I am feeding her at 10/11 and hoping to start skipping the 1:45 wake up.  I didn't think it would be so easy, but she never complained. Maybe your DH could do this one for you? I am really hating the 5/6am wakeup because sometimes she goes back to sleep until 8 but that throws our whole day off! Today she woke 45mins into her pm nap, which hasn't happened in ages and we are so messed up again!  I hope it's teeth for both of us and a simple schedule fix. I'll try to follow this thread and hang in there with you!


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Re: Please please help! Can't take any more of my 8 month old NWs!
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2012, 22:10:02 pm »
Thanks badpixie! Yes I'm sure the hunger is a habit. Just did first pupd session. She woke at 10.15 and it took about 30mins pupd but she's asleep again now. Fingers crossed it will last a while! I did think about offering a bit of water instead... I think I've reached breaking point and am prepared for things to get a bit worse before they get better! Its obvious things aren't going to improve without intervention.



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Re: Please please help! Can't take any more of my 8 month old NWs!
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2012, 22:22:30 pm »
Good on you!! (wow... that sounds like something my nanna would say...)
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Re: Please please help! Can't take any more of my 8 month old NWs!
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2012, 09:32:25 am »
How was the rest of your night becky?




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Re: Please please help! Can't take any more of my 8 month old NWs!
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2012, 10:36:47 am »
After the pupd she slept till 3.15. I fed her and changed her cos she pood  ::) and then she slept till about 7.15 !  :) So I will continue with this plan I think. Fingers crossed!



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Re: Please please help! Can't take any more of my 8 month old NWs!
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2012, 10:56:11 am »
YAY!! I reckon she'll catch on quickly!!
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Re: Please please help! Can't take any more of my 8 month old NWs!
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2012, 12:37:21 pm »
me too. that is great - well done hun!




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Re: Please please help! Can't take any more of my 8 month old NWs!
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2012, 13:12:04 pm »
That's great. Hope she carries on that well.

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Re: Please please help! Can't take any more of my 8 month old NWs!
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2012, 08:43:41 am »
Hi ladies,

Not such a great night last night unfortunately  :( She had her bottle at 7.30, woke up at 11.15, I did pupd and she settled in about 15mins. But then she woke up again after half an hour and kept crying on and off. I couldn't resettle her so at 12.40 I fed her. She woke up again at about 4.30 and again I tried to resettle with pupd, but she kept settling and then waking up crying again, so at about 5.30 I fed her. She then slept till I woke her at 8. So she had 2 stretches of about 5 hrs. What do you think, should I have tried to hold out longer? Its better than it was but feels like a step backwards from yesterday, when she just had 1 feed at 3am  :-\



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Re: Please please help! Can't take any more of my 8 month old NWs!
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2012, 08:49:39 am »
I love on how on paper that sounds easy enough- except when you realise that you were meant to be sleeping all of that time!! Was there something else like teething playing a part at all? If you suspect that could you give her some meds before bed.. sort of to rule that out? Only if that's what you're happy to do of course... I'd do it.... but that's me...
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Re: Please please help! Can't take any more of my 8 month old NWs!
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2012, 14:00:15 pm »
If you don't think that she is teething, then waking up after such a short time does sound like hunger. It is so difficult to judge with bf babies when you have no idea how much they are taking in. I have also struggled with what to do when he wakes before the allotted time for his feed - it doesn't seem right to leave him screaming for an hour and then feed him anyway, but feeding when he woke up is what got us into this mess!

I think that your best bet is to carry on the way you have been - try to resettle her if she wakes before your designated feed time, but feed if you are sure she is hungry. I think that you will find that she will stretch out a bit on her own, and then once she has made it till 3 a few nights then you can say you won't feed until 3 and so on. I have to confess that I did feed ds at 4.30 last night because he seemed hungry!

Is there any way that dh can take over some of the settling at night? I think that helped us as ds did not expect my dh to feed himm

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Re: Please please help! Can't take any more of my 8 month old NWs!
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2012, 14:21:51 pm »
Is there any way that dh can take over some of the settling at night? I think that helped us as ds did not expect my dh to feed himm

Possibly on weekends but DH is very stressed at work atm so he needs his sleep!

Teething is always a possibility  ::) as is gas; Sophia has always been a rather gassy baby. I sometimes have difficulty telling whether its hunger or pain.

To make matters worse I have a very bad back the last couple of days which is aggravated by bending down and straightening up (i.e. pupd!!). On the other hand once I've started I don't want to go back  ???



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Re: Please please help! Can't take any more of my 8 month old NWs!
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2012, 21:47:40 pm »
I agree with Clazzat's thoughts.. (All of them, not repeating them all again!) But you may as well do it for at least a week now that you've started to see if it makes a difference.. i'd think you'd see some change by then... then you can stop or pull back and assess after that...
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Re: Please please help! Can't take any more of my 8 month old NWs!
« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2012, 07:40:11 am »
Last night she went from 7.30 till 2am before waking up! I fed her, then she woke up at 5.15 with a poo ::) changed and resettled her, and she woke up at 6 with another poo! :o. I thought for sure she wouldn't sleep again without a feed but she did, until 8am! So did quite well with the feeding... Now can anyone tell me how to stop her pooing at night? :P

When I did need to resettle I couldn't do pupd cos of my back. I put a hand on her back and sang to her instead. How long is acceptable for them to be crying if I'm doing that? It didn't take her too long...