19 MO Going off track - NW

[tahiranisa]

He was up again with a NW at 115. Same as yesterday despite going to bed an hour earlier. The difference tonight was that yesterday took an (easy) 45 minutes to put him down and today took twice that and ended with a bottle of milk. He was calm and trying to sleep again but just couldn't. We tried everything - shhing, patting his back, holding his hand, bouncing his mattress, rocking in the chair. He was calm and almost asleep and then would kick around and flail and we would start over.After an hour 20, I got him a bottle, which honestly he didn't even want. But it seems like it did the trick. He was awake when I left but relaxed and seems asleep now. Please please let him be asleep. Either way, I am going to bed and DH will just have to take over if this night continues.

 Two things I noticed - his legs seemed jumpy (there have been a few nights this way) and he refused to have covers or anything on his lower half. So what about this - the calcium in the milk is actually helping his body relax. Is that a completely ridiculous theory? I read up on restless leg syndrome (which my mom and I joke we both have but definitely not as a serious chronic condition) and it says that RLS responds to calcium.

[Truly Blessed]

Hello Honey, sorry for the late reply. Okay so he really seems like an unhappy poorly boy right now. I think you need to shorten his A times right now and give him a cat nap much earlier, so you can then bring the 2nd nap earlier and BT earlier, he is OT big time I think Sweetie, and with him being ill he could do with extra sleep. Try and follow his lead and stop clock watching until he is better than you can crack on with his routine again. I would recommend Karvol instead of Vicks, it's better for LOs and you can get the plug in's with the menthol vapour and they're brilliant. Keep his day short Hun, even with an EW of stupid o clok (4 something) you need to do it, and there is a much better chance of getting rid of those NWs if you do. Jumpiness for us is caused by OT and the bodies inability to rest properly, other than that I don't know Hun 

Hope this helps Sweetie, big X for the little man bless him.x.

[tahiranisa]

Ooh, We had the night from hell.

He was asleep by 6:15 or 6:30 I cant exactly remember.
Then up at 145. He wanted to drink milk. Thats a no. Or rock in our new glider. That's a no. After 20 minutes of hysterics and 20 min of rocking I told him it was time to go to bed and I put him down and pretty much left. He said he wanted me to leave! Of course, he cried for me the whole time I was gone but not nearly as insanely as when I was there. After my 45 minutes, the hubby took over (which we never do and I think was an even bigger mistake). He just fed him bottle after bottle (maybe 10 oz total) over the next hour and ended up getting him to sleep from about 330-415. That means he was pretty much up from 145-330 minus maybe 15 minutes here or there. At 415 I put him in our bed intent on just being up for the day but he actually slept snuggling my baby bump (upside down) until 530. He woke up happy and like it had been a totally normal night. And I still wanted to yell at him. (But I didn't)

Going to let him nap whenever he says he wants it and then just figure it out from there. So far, no signs. Its 915 here in Texas.

The only good thing I can think of is that he has now woken up in the 1am hour three days in a row. I think that means that we might be starting a habitual waking which I can try to treat with W2S. Other than that, its all bad news.

[tahiranisa]

Alrighty, he wanted to go to bed at 10am and I just let him. It took him a while to go down but there was no fussing just some babbling and maybe playing. It was probably the ideal way he should go down everytime.

Not sure if I should go in at 35 minute to wait for a 45 minute wake up or if I should let him sleep whatever he wants and then do another nap later...but I think it is the middle of the night where you are so I am guessing I better decide fast!

[tahiranisa]

I think you need to shorten his A times right now and give him a cat nap much earlier, so you can then bring the 2nd nap earlier

Never mind, you said let him catnap, so that's what we'll do. That mean I need to sneak in 20 minutes of sleep too.

[Truly Blessed]

Hi Sweetie, bless you all on that horrible night. How did it go, did you go with the morning cat nap and wake him  I know I would have been tempted after that kind of night to let him sleep, but time and time again I have seem it result in 2nd nap refusal and then you're right in a pickle. Hope whatever you did turned out well and that you are going to sleep a lot better tonight.x.

[tahiranisa]

Nope, didn't wake him. Ha ha. But didn't extend his nap either, I just let him do what he wanted, which turned out to be about 1.5 hours, a little less. So today has been

145 - 330 NW
330-415 sleep
415 -530 sleep in my bed
10-1130 nap

he seems tired right now and I think I could definitely get him to CN at 3. I might have to make a drive somewhere to make it happen though. On a positive note, he is eating like a champ today. (A different battle.)

[Truly Blessed]

CN at 3 sounds like a good plan to me Hun. Everything X'd. BTW DS went through months of awful eating, and now he tucks into all kind of meat and vegetables  it's all phases and stages 

x.

[tahiranisa]

Our 3 pm CN was more of a snuggle and rock in the chair with books. But we sat in his dimly lit room and relaxed for about 30 minutes. DH thought a nap was a bad idea. I don't know what I am doing...

So, recap of todays schedule:

145 - 330 NW
330-415 sleep
415 -530 sleep in my bed
10-1130 nap
330-4 rest in rocking chair
5:30 started BT
630 asleep (he was hard to put down but not terrible)

[Truly Blessed]

DH thought a nap was a bad idea. I don't know what I am doing...

Well I'm presuming DH isn't a child sleep expert either      Okay Hun, today is a new day and as long as we learn lessons from yesterday we're already better off. What I would take from yesterday is that the morning nap would have been better to have been a cat nap of 30 mins and then the 2nd nap wouldn't have been refused. This is a common problem so no surprise  So IIWM my plan for today would be to give her the 30 min nap as soon as she is ready and then between 2.5/3 hours later go for a nap of 1.5 then decide BT depending on whether she sleeps the whole nap.

(Hugs to you Hun)

x.

[tahiranisa]

OK. Sounds good. That is what I have told the nanny to do afyernights like yesterday so I really do know better. Maybe I'm just too tired. :/  Its 4am here and so far.tonight was much better. EW at 330 BUT he was drenched in pee, that would have woken me up too. Changed clothes, diaper, blanket and he seems asleep after 30 min GW.

[Truly Blessed]

(Hugs) and well done one the MOTN GW........Yawn x.

[tahiranisa]

Goodness.

Everything went pretty much the way it was *supposed* to all night and morning. and yet, he is refusing second nap.

330: EW with wet diaper and sheets
400 I was back in bed so he was asleep within 30 minutes maybe less
500: WU (too early but with a 630 BT it is pretty typical for us)
9:40-1005: CN
1pm - tried nap, he didn't seem tired enough I suppose. He was tired but just not enough
1:40 quit trying for the nap

Might try again at 230? Otherwise we are looking at a CN for afternoon too. If I give him his nap at 3, then he won't go to bed!

Maybe I should only be CN'ing when we have a terrible night. ??

[Truly Blessed]

Do you think he may have gone down for the cat nap earlier, at 2.5 A time, or was he definitely UT 

x.

[tahiranisa]

Are you saying cn at 730? I definitely don't think that would have worked.He really seemed like he'd had a good night's sleep this morning. I know that sounds crazy but he was not fussy all morning.