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WI/WO not working 14 mth old
« on: September 20, 2013, 13:14:12 pm »
Hello once again.  My 14 month old has been down to 1 nap for the past few weeks after am nap refusal for a month.  She goes down at 12:30- I have a 3 year old as well who goes down wonderfully at 1 thanks to using bw with her (angel textbook though as compared to my spirited toddler).  We have gone with set naps and bedtime since she does not go down earlier or tack on during the night.  Naps she goes down pretty good (ot I know but hard to work around with sibling).  I can easily resettle her at the 1 hour mark just by going in and saying lay down.  She then sleeps till 2:30 sometimes even 3:00! So we get about 2-2.5 hour nap even though it's not straight through.   She is asleep for the night by 7:00 (my hubby does this for me) but then the nws begin.  Sometimes as early as 9:30, sometimes not till 11:30, but after that it's a couple times throughout the night and then starts the day between 5:30-6:30 at which time I turn the lights if I can't resettle and give her some toys to play with in her crib and then I try to get 20 more min of sleep myself.
For awhile I was sleeping on the floor in her room cause I had to have my hand on her back to get her to resettle.  I have had some success with gradual withdrawal and now I'm doing walk in walk out.  Problem now is I walk in, she is always standing and crying, she sees me and drops back down and settles.  What's the next step.  It's 4-5 nw, easy enough to get her back down since she just has to see me, but not a good solid night for either of us.  If I let her fuss than its 45 min to get her back down so I have been rushing in (bad I know) just so I don't have the long night battle.  My hubby wants to start with controlled crying (wait 3 min then go in, wait 5 min then go in, 7 min, 10 min)
What is my next step?

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Re: WI/WO not working 14 mth old
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2013, 18:06:30 pm »
Hugs to a fellow Canadian and Manitoban!  (I just moved to a small town south of Winnipeg this summer but Winnipeg was home for me for the past 10 years).  Hugs to you.  I feel your sleep deprivation pain!

I too am guilty of rushing in and it finally came to a point where it had to stop and my DS needed to learn to SS.  My intervening (I was rocking or doing WIWO) was interrupting his ability to learn to SS.  So, a few weeks ago one of the moderators here gave me some very, very helpful advice regarding WIWO.  WIWO was not working with my DS and I finally figured out why when she said that it is important to differentiate between an "I need you" cry/scream and an "I'm angry, mad" cry/scream.  You're only supposed to WI if it's an "I need you" cry/scream as opposed to an "I'm angry, mad" cry/scream.  Which one do you think your DD is doing?  Perhaps the next step is to pull back your intervention when she's just throwing a bit of a temper tantrum (or a lot of one in my DS' case  ::) - he'd scream with furious rage as he wanted me to come in and rock him back to sleep like I used to).  It was so hard to hear him scream but once I realized he was throwing a temper tantrum and the best way for me to love him was to not give in, it made it easier.  One of the moderators on here wisely said, "if he was screaming for a cookie would you cave and give it to him just because he was screaming?".  If she needs you, by all means, respond by if she's just angry perhaps you need to pull back. What do you think?
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Re: WI/WO not working 14 mth old
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2013, 21:14:40 pm »
Thankyou so much!  That makes a lot of sense.  Her crying starts out as a "hey ma, where are you?" type of cry before it turns into an "I need you" type cry.  I think I will just have to do as you say as it does make complete sense.  I think I was always so worried about letting her "cry it out", as compared to what she was actually doing which was " fussing it out", that I lost sight of it all in my sleep deprivation and jumped right in without giving her the chance to really try and work it out.  Thanks again.  Gonna give it a go tonight.  She had an awesome nap (2.25hours) today so hopefully that works in our favour too!

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Re: WI/WO not working 14 mth old
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2013, 12:57:14 pm »
How're you getting on?
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Re: WI/WO not working 14 mth old
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2013, 14:37:57 pm »
Well my dear hubby was not on board... He has been sleeping in the guest room.  I told him that I was going to sleep in the guest room for the weekend then and he could take care of all the night wakings.  Let's just say he is on board now. YEAH!  I babysit 2 other children during the week so I am going to try starting Wednesday, that way it's only 2 days till the weekend rather than me being crabby all week with 4 under 3years old to "entertain".

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Re: WI/WO not working 14 mth old
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2013, 18:03:46 pm »
Wow that sounds tough! But it also sounds like a good plan. Keep us posted :)
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Re: WI/WO not working 14 mth old
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2013, 01:56:49 am »
Before I start... She still uses a pacifier.  She usually finds it on her own, but sometimes not so when I have gone in for the nws I do replug if needed.  Would I be crazy to try and get rid of it at the same time.  She is a spirited one which is why she still has it (only for naps and nighttime NEVER during the day).  Or should I just try one thing at a time and try to deal with the pacifier another time.

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Re: WI/WO not working 14 mth old
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2013, 03:43:25 am »
I personally wouldn't ditch the paci at this age. Can you pop a few in the cot(like4-5) so she can find them herself. She needs to plug herself, at 14 mths she will be capable ;)
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Re: WI/WO not working 14 mth old
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2013, 07:00:19 am »
I agree with Sara - it's not a good idea to get rid of something which at this age is likely a proper soothing item. We also have to help DD sometimes to replug inthe night. We lower the chances for this happening like Sara says by leaving lots of them in the cot.
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