can set nap and bt work for a HSN spirited lo really really sensitive to ot?

[Aishi]

Thanks.hon. what was.ur routine at 21mo? and how long did it work for u? i know u said u dont cap naps my dd doesnt do Well.with capping either but did you wake in morning? x

Ps napped 12.30-3.20 with resettle at 2. will aim for 7 bt....

[grace annes mommy]

I pretty much never woke her up.  I can count on 1 hand the number of times she's slept in, so on those very rare occasions, I slept in too!!  Honestly, once we find a good routine, she does seem to regulate somewhat so if she slept in or took long nap, I let her bc I figured she either needed a catchup for whatever reason, or was getting sick.

At that age, we did:

W 7:00
Nap 12:30 to 2:30
Bed 7:30pm

If she woke earlier than 7am, I left her in her cot til 7am.  If it was super early, I would keep the morning very low key to make it to the set nap time.  But, she was usually able to deal with long morning A times usually without too much issue.  We counted 5hrs from nap to bed bc that's when she was prone to OT and I can't deal with a disrupted night    If she did a 1.5 hr nap, I'd put her down at 7pm.  If she slept 3hrs, I'd put her down between 8 and 8:30.  I'd probably have an active afternoon to wear her out and hope to have her down @ 8pm.  Eventually, I nudged her nap to 1pm so lunch wasn't so rushed, probably around 2.5.  I started setting the nap time for my sanity and honestly, we kept a very similar routine until 6 mos. ago when she dropped the nap.  Yes, we had EWs or short naps or an occasional super early nap or bt, but overall I found that she was able to regulate herself if we stayed consistent.  Doesn't work for every bub though! Just a matter of trial and error..

[Aishi]

Thats good to know. Dd is very similar in.that once.a routine suits her she settles for a while. Thanks.for sharing ur routine. The details help get some sort of plan in.my head lol. Ill stick with 12.30 nap and aim.for 7 bt depending on nap length and keep my fxd her body clock sets quickly. Im not known for my patience tho!
thanks all for your advice and help xx

[Aishi]

Ok i know this takes time and its only been a week...but its not going well wu is varying between 6-7 but Mainly 6 and nap can range from 1.5-2.5h Sometimes resettled sometimes not but Bt is all all over the place...im pd tobbe asleep for 7 and its taking her ages to fall asleep. I think shes ot cos shes falling asleep by 8 and wu is 6- def ot night for her but im.struggling to get pm a right :/

So today

Wu 6
nap 12.30-2.40
bt pd 6.20 to be asleep for 6.40 and she slept at 8!!! very ot

Any ideas what i can do about pm A time or do i stick it out and hope she gets hang of it altho how will that happen if shes not falling asleep at the set bt of 7?

oh and Another question can u get thru the 18 mo SR and then it comes back??!

[grace annes mommy]

hmmm...  An 8-6 night would be for sure OT for us.  Could you spend a day or 2 just trying to get her caught up?  An early, and hopefully long nap and an early bt.  Once she's caught up, she could hopefully handle the set times better.

What A time has worked in the past for bt?

[Aishi]

I could def try and get her caught up...not sure about a times anymore :/ the 18mo.regression started when she was 17 mo and her a times seemed to.have changed a lot since then...

[Aishi]

Last night was not good :(wu was 5 and i think.she may have dozed on And off till 6.25....

Any ideas what i should do bout nap? stick to 12.30 set.time or earlier??

[grace annes mommy]

I would definitely do an earlier nap and let her sleep as long as she wants...

Any clue how many hours of sleep she needs in 24 hrs? 

[Aishi]

It varies during cu days shes had as many as 15h+ but on average  i would say 14h...

I pd for nap at 11.45 and she went straight to sleep so will llet her sleep as long as she wants...

[Aishi]

Ok.so nap was 11.50-2.25 i resettled.at 1.30. any ideas on what a to bt??

[grace annes mommy]

glad she got a pretty good nap.  I'd probably watch cues for bt... But probably shoot for 6:30.

What's happening when she wakes mid-nap and you resettle?  I noticed that's happened a couple times.

[Aishi]

Thanks grace annes mommy. Went for 6.30 bt- pd at 6.25 and asleep at 6.35 tg! lets.hope 4h Pm.a is the magic number on.a 2.5h nap. If nap.is shorter should.i.also shorten a to bt? i think.this is where i keep going wrong...

Re resettling naps ive mainly been.doing that since starting set naps when am is 6h+. she starts to make.noises and i shush her over monitor for a few.mins and shell.go back to sleep.if i dont shes up and ready to wake...dyt i shouldnt be doing this?

[grace annes mommy]

Fingers crossed for a long night!

I think knowing she needs appx. 14hrs can help us sort out the set times a bit better once she's not OT.

Personally, I probably wouldn't go under 4 hrs for a pm A time.  It seems like it can so easily lopside the day, kwim?  Like too easy for the day to creep earlier and earlier?  With my DD, I was (am still) able to do really looong WDs to try to curb some of the OT/OS.  Long bath, extra books, etc.  Is that a possibility?

Re resettling naps ive mainly been.doing that since starting set naps when am is 6h+. she starts to make.noises and i shush her over monitor for a few.mins and shell.go back to sleep.if i dont shes up and ready to wake...dyt i shouldnt be doing this?

I think that's fine.  Was just asking in case she was waking out of discomfort or something had become a prop.  She's likely just OT and if you can just sush her over the monitor, I think that's pretty easy!

[Aishi]

Last night Was good 6.35-6.20 i.heard her a few times but she ss.

Should i stick to set nap of 12.30 today or go a little earlier in case shes still ot? And let her nap as long as she wants? x

[grace annes mommy]

Yay for the good night!

I would watch cues closely today.  She might need another catch up day.  If she's happy, you can try to get her to 12:30, but I think she'll probably need to go down earlier.