argh! dd refusing nap

[Aishi]

Why don't my kids sleep? Seriously. They're both IS. I feel like I'm posting about their sleep every month!!

Ds dropped the nap in Dec at 3.5yo and is still caught in a vicious ot cycle!

Dd has finally been on a decent routine despite the usual teething, colds etc of  6h15 min am a, nap capped upto 2.5h, 4-4.25h pm a and sttn. And today she started acting up at nap. She should have been asleep for 1.45. Its now 2.15 and I can hear her.

Its just so frustrating. Why won't she settle into a routine for more than 2 weeks?

Fed up fed up fed up

[creations]

Oh Aishi that really sucks
I'm sorry both of them are giving you sleep stress!
hugs

[jessmum46]

Hugs lovely, I just think it's the way of things at this age.  Something works for a while, they get a good store of sleep and then one day decide they feel more like playing than sleeping.  Maybe she had less activity than usual, maybe she was overstimulated, perhaps she'd just filled her sleep bank for the time being, or you know, it could just be the way the wind was blowing. Personally I've found analysing it to be a bit pointless and if J doesn't sleep within 45 mins-1h we just get up, have a NND and an earlier BT.  Hard I know when DD can be sensitive to OT but here at least deciding opportunities for sleep are my job, but the actual sleeping (or not) is hers has really helped me not stress about it so much xx

[LovelyLilyandJack]

Why don't my kids sleep? Seriously. They're both IS. I feel like I'm posting about their sleep every month!!

Its just so frustrating. Why won't she settle into a routine for more than 2 weeks?

Fed up fed up fed up

No advice to add I'm afraid,  but lots of sympathy!  Lily slept ok but jack hasn't been on a good routine fire more than 2/3 weeks at a time ever either. I'm pretty sure his A times jump with every leap he goes through and then it takes a few weeks to suss him out again (he's very lsn so I spend a lot of time in denial!). By the time I do,  he's about ready to change again!

Anyway, just wanted to say you're not the only one....

[Aishi]

Thanks lovelies sorry for the rant. I know I shouldn't let it get to me and naps wouldn't bother me so much if it didn't affect night sleep too. Oh well. They won't be babies forever!

[jessmum46]

Rant away hun, here to listen xx

[LovelyLilyandJack]

Yeah, I owe this forum some ears after going on about jacks sleep so much! Rant away.  Sometimes it's very lonely being the only one who cares quite so much about your child's routine. It's good to vent.

[Aishi]

a lady i know from a playgroup told me that whilst on holiday she changed her 2 yos routine so he was napping at 4-6 and going to bed at midnight ::O ::O if I did something like that I would pay for it for months. In fact we stayed at my mums for a week in Easter and ds is still asking me to sleep with him during nws!

[*Liz*]

This is why I just set the times, and did bedtime half an hour early if it had been a bad day.

Both of my kids were only reliable at STTN just before age 4!! Both independent sleepers etc. Just that they get OT, they get tummy ache, they wet the bed, they get teeth etc etc. Then my DD had a run of horrid night terrors  .

My 5.5 year old never wakes now, and my DD very rarely, and ykw? It really is strange and in a way I do miss it. Little warm bodies in the night. Now I just get freezing cold feet in the morning  .

I so wish I hadn't worried so much about sleep, I really do  .

[Aishi]

I know I shouldn't let it get to me especially since I can't make them sleep. But it drives me crazy cos I know how sensitive dd is ot. Its not just the broken sleep its the meltdowns that come the next day. Dd is either on the verge of tears or tantrums  and if I'm having a really bad day, both. It was just tears today.

I know its not routine related (I pd too late for nap yesterday and that's what led to the messy day). Today she was fine. She woke at 7.15 and i woke from a 2.5h nap, she was asleep within 5 min at BT for 8. I just hate how sensitive she is to ot. Still. At 27mo!

[jessmum46]

I just hate how sensitive she is to ot. Still. At 27mo!

But you're such a fab mummy because you realise it . And give her every chance to catch up.  That's what's important xx

[kaipooi]

I totally get you, Aishi!!

The worst part is the unwanted advise, "you should stop stressing yourself out!", "he is old enough!", "just let him be" and the most famous one, "just let him play until he is super tired and he will sleep!". Right!!!

[Aishi]

Lol. I get that too! Yes she is old enough to manage WO a nap but its not good for my sanity having a stroppy 2yo cos she's ot. Then I get the whole 'what's wrong with her?' 'You need to disciplineher better!'

[kaipooi]

Hahaha! Yes, yes and yes!

I have also learned that when we leave early at dinner parties, NEVER say it is because LO needs to sleep! Never ever say that! I did it that one and only time, and till today I get the "I know your LO needs to sleep early but would you still like to come to our party?". And sometimes, a few days after the party, "Oh, you can't meet us for lunch? I know you must be putting your LO to nap and trying to get back on schedule after the party, huh?". Just take a gun and shoot me...

[Aishi]

Lol that's a bit harsh for you! Thanks I'll keep that in mind!

So dd refused to nap today dont say its dev cos shes had enough leaps to last a lifetime lol.
11h ons
Wu 7.10
Nap 2.45-3.45 capped and in bed with me!!! That's NEVER happened before

What time would you aim to have lo asleep for? Could she be ready for nnds? That doesnt seem right !!