2 to 1 transittion problems

[claredm]

We just shifted my 15 month old to 1 nap (cold turkey) (on saturday last week, today is thursday)
He had started to refuse his afternoon nap, was under tired for the morning nap and so we did 3 weeks of capping his morning nap to 1.5hrs and pushing and capping his afternoon nap. We did it cold turkey, because he does terribly with being woken after 45 mins in the afternoon, and its such a struggle to get him to take that nap.
But .... he is struggling, and I'm looking for advice.

Old routine was:
5.15am wake
9am-10.30 nap
3.30-4.15 nap
6.45 bed

Our 1 nap schedule is:
Wake at 5.15am (This is when my husband gets up for work, so this early time is ok for us).
5.30 Small Breakfast
6.00 5 oz milk
8am 2nd small Breakfast
9am 8oz milk
NAP: Into crib 9.45am (we want him to wake after 12 ideally)
1pm lunch
3pm snack
5pm dinner
5.45 8oz milk
Bedtime: 6pm

We are struggling with early waking (4.15am) and the single nap being too short (sometimes he only does 1.5 hrs, but clear needs more than 2. Some times he has slept up to 3).

My thoughts, perhaps is that he is over tired due to EW and short nap, so i should put him down into the crib a bit earlier until he recovers.
Other issue is perhaps we need to shift lunch to before the nap. Today he work after 1.5 hrs and i think he was hungry.

[creations]

I would suggest moving the nap later. More like 10.15 so you get 5 hrs (or maybe more) from WU.
Initially this may be difficult to do as he is now tired (normal during the transition) and is used to an earlier nap.  I would move in 15 mins wait a couple of days then move another 15 mins.
with the nap at 10.15 there is more chance of a better/longer nap (although in the first instance you might see OT wake up in that nap, do your utmost to resettle rather than getting him up) and the nap end later meaning less A time before BT.
With less A time before BT then fingers crossed he is less OT and will have a better night rather than NW.  Continue with the early BT, you can do even earlier so he gets a 12 hr night.

Some LOs may transition relatively smoothly, this 2-1 was very hard for us, mine could not longer do 2 naps but instead of his 2hr nap ended up doing 20 mins then screaming with OT waking. I used W2S and resettling to 'make' him sleep longer because he was so desperate for it.  And eventually he adapted and all was well again.

I would probably do a really generous snack or early lunch before the nap then second lunch or snack after nap and an earlier dinner so that BT can come earlier.
What do you think?

[Scottishmummy]

Just going to move you to Toddler Sleep, as your LO,is over 12mo
Xxx

[claredm]

Thanks.
We are trying to shift to later. I think you are def. right that his wake time isn't long enough. Today was 10am, and he only napped 45 mins. I will push for 10.15 and probably 10.30. He doesn't seem too tired to extend his awake time.
An earlier bed time (5.30/5.45pm with normal WU at 5/5.15am) seems to help.

[creations]

Let us know how you get on

[claredm]

He woke around 5-5.15 am this morning

He didn't seem tired at 10am/10.15, so I put him down into the crib at about 10.25. He was very happy and chatted himself to sleep by about 10.35, but woke at 12.15 (he clearly needed longer, and was crying, but from experience, I knew there was no hope to re-settle after 1.5 hrs). Perhaps early bed tonight at 5.30/5.45 and we'll try ~10.30 again.

[creations]

It definitely looks like progress. I would agree that a touch later could be the answer on this nap.  Mine used to cry after an UT nap too, too tired to be awake and not tired enough to sleep longer or go back to sleep.

Good luck for tomorrow.

[claredm]

He woke at 5-5.15am.
So he went into the crib at 10.25am, asleep by 10.35am and woke at 12.05.
I will push for 10.45am and see if that helps.
Thanks
Clare

[claredm]

We still can't get past 1hr 30 minutes.
Our current schedule
~5am wake
~10.30am into crib
~12 wake
~ 5.30pm Crib for night time. (He typically sleeps through the night).

Any thoughts?

[creations]

How's his mood now?
The routine actually looks ok with a 1.5hr nap and 11.5hr night but if his mood is not great then possibly moving the nap a little later again may help.

[claredm]

His mood is ok, i just heard of 2-3 hrs of nap, and thought we were doing something wrong.
We will keep it like this and not worry so much.

[creations]

If his mood is ok then I'd just stick with what you have. The amount of sleep is absolutely fine.
FWIW mine did a 2hr nap but that was because his sleep cycles added up to 2hrs (40min cycle x 3 cycles), but his nights were only ever 10.5/11hrs.  Yes we had a few longer nights around the time of nap drops, some 12hr, but then he'd settle back down to his regular length again.