Sleep worse than ever

[Donnarobbo88]

I thought I'd start a new post as I have new problems
So Cruz has been waking more than ever he had to wake once sometimes twice at a push he would mostly do a good 7/8 hour stretch then wake and go that. Ack down
Now he's waking after maybe 4/5 hours
Last night was fine at first he slept 6pm - 1.40am I thought great were getting there nope he must of went back to sleep for nearly a hour to wake up again
At 2.4am r then stayed awake babbling making mousing and on off winging more was just babbling tho only winging as he got tired again he was awake til 4am doing this in this time had another bottle ino I shouldn't of gave him one but my son was in the room aswell and it's a shame for him to be woken but ino Cruz didn't even want a bottle I can't go thru these long night awakenings again my first son was like it and it drove me to the brink
My second son was a fantastic sleeper and I'm doing nothing different I don't think

He's 8 months will be 9 months on the 12th October I'm so tired all the time and it's making me miserable maybe he won't stay awake long tonight. It no doubt wil still wake more than once
After all that time awake he finally went of at 4 to be awake for the day at 5.40am I thought maybe he would sleep longer to make up for being awake

Here is yesterday's routine


Saturday 24th September 💙
4.40am - 4oz went bk of chad shouted and woke him
5am - got up
7am - Wheatabix
3hour 15 awake time
8.15am - lay in cot moaned few mins
8.50am - woke up cuddled him
9.10am - dropped back of
10am - got up
1hour 20 in total
12pm - Spag hoops
1pm - 7oz drained
3.5 hour awake time
1.30pm - lay in cot
2.15pm - woke up (45mins nap)
4.35pm - spag hoops hog
5.55pm - 8oz

Sunday 25th September 💙
1.40pm - 4oz drained (almost 8hours)
2.45am - bonjela water babbling away 3oz 
4ish - went back to sleep
5.40am - awake


He has just cut a tooth but he doesn't seem in pain with his gums he's happy and fine during the day
I just wish he would sleep id like him to drop the night feed now as well
he goes Down awake for his naps his bedtime we do bath into sleepin bag and he has his last bottle upstairs in his bedroom in the dark he normally falls asleep on this bottle not a deep sleep but defo sleepy but can go to sleep fine in the day by himself I don't no what to do any advice x

[Skadiver13]

Hi hun, it's hard for me to give advice based on one days schedule but is this something that has been going on a long time or is relatively new? There is a HUGE growthspurt and sleep regression at 8 months. Plus he's cutting teeth so that is bound to wake him. Even if he wakes happy it could be that theeth woke him up due to the pressure but then he's had a semi good nights sleep and then he's just wide awake. The thing with putting him down at 8:15 for a nap is you will just start to get him used to doing that and he's treating the 545-8:!5 as a night waking and it will become routine.  So pushing that nap forward as best you can even 15min at a time over a few days will help him realize a new routine. Does that make sense? I can hear your lack of sleep (figuratively) and I was there with my son. I can tell you he was an awful awful sleeper but it does get better, and it will not last forever. You can do this.

Try posting what you'd like your easy to be? Also he may not be ready to drop that night feed yet at 8 months it's not unrealistic to have one night feed. If he's taking a full feed at night he may still need it. That being said if he's having formula you could try adding just 1oz to each of his bottles during the day to make up for what he's taking at night and he may start to not need it?

[Donnarobbo88]

Thanks hun for the reply well he used to wake once mainly sometimes twice but he would go back to sleep he stopped drinking much milk at night so I make 4oz up now for him at night also he won't drink his milk first thing so I thought it was affecting him
Here is a sample routine from before he got poorly with bronchitis and started cutting teeth

Saturday 10th September 💙
12am - nurofen 4oz (6hours)
4.30am -  3oz
6.25am - got up
6.35am - 2.5oz
8.05am - wetabix
3hours 5 mins awake time
9.30am - lay in cot moaned 5
10.10am - awake (40mins)
10.30am - 3oz drained biccie
11.50pm - pork casserole yog
1.30pm - 2pm - nap Asda
2.30pm - 3.5oz
4.30pm - pork casserole ate all
4hour awake time
6pm - 7.5oz
11.50pm - 2oz (almost 6hours)

Sunday 11th September 💙
5am - 2oz  (5hours) bk down
6.05am - got up
7.05am - choc ready brek
3.5hour awake time
9.30am - lay in cot
10.05 woke up stiring
10.15am - 2.5oz
12pm - lunch
 1.30pm - lay in cot cried 5
2.05pm - woke up
2.30pm - 3oz
4.15pm - mash beans
6pm - 5oz bed

We have recently dropped his 10am  bottle because I was lucky if he would drink 1/2oz
Or he would drink it all and then not want his lunch the health visitor said he should only be on 3 bottles a day now do u think that sounds right ?
He was having bottles at 6,10,2,6 for bed

So last night he was in bed for 6pm woke around half 12 am drunk his full 4oz bottle woke again around 3 drunk another 4oz bottle but he went back to sleep both times quickly and he's woke for the day at 5.10 ino babies can only sleep so much
Ideally I'd like he to get up around 6am I have a school run to do of a morning and he has been falling asleep on his pram and it messes the day up then as he won't sleep very long in it x

Her is a routine from the past few days

Monday 19th September 💙
2am - drained 4oz (almost 8hours)
5.30am - woke up
5.40am - got up
6am - 2oz
7.10am - ready break didn't want much
3hour awake time
8.25am - 8.55 nap pram (30)
10.25pm - 3oz
2hour40 awake time
11.40am - sleep
12.20pm - woke up (40mins) went by of
1.15pm - woke up (50) 1.5hour
2.30pm - 1.5oz
4pm - 1/2 jar yoghurt
6pm - 6oz

Tuesday 20th September 💙
12am - 2oz (6hours)
5.35am - got up (5.5hours)
6am - 1.5oz
6.35am - ready brek
9am - 1.5oz
3hours 30 awake time
9.02am - lay in cot moaned for few
9.50am - woke up (45 mins)
12pm - finger food yog
1pm - 1oz
3hour40min awake time
1.30pm - lay in cot babble 5/10 min
2.10pm - woke up
4.15pm - 1/2 jar sick yog
6pm - 7.5oz
10pm - crying bonjela tried water cried again 2oz (4hours)

Wednesday 21st September
12.50pm - gave calpol as poorly  (almost3)
2.50pm - 1oz
4.50 - in with me
5.45am - got up
6.35am - wetabix beaker milk
9.05am - 5oz
3hours25 awake time
9.10am - put in cot
10.30am - woke up (1hour 20)
12pm - lunch finger foods
1.35pm - 5oz
3hour10min awake time
1.40pm - in cot
2.20pm - woke up (40mins)
4.15pm - swag Bol yog
6pm - 7oz
9.45pm - stired didn't go in
11.45pm - 4oz drained felt bit cold (almost6hours)

Thursday 22nd September 💙
5.40am - woke up (6hours)
6.15am - wetabix & juice poo
Falling asleep way home
8.55am - 6oz lay in cot pooped
9.20am - sleep
10am - woke up 40mins
12pm - lunch
3hour 15 awake time
1.15pm - 5oz 10 min settle down
1.25pm - nap cot
2.40pm - woke him up (1hour20)
4.15pm - spag Bol & yog
6pm - 7oz
10.40pm - woke Wouldn't settle
10.45pm - 2.5oz bonjela

Friday 23rd September 💙
2.20am - not even 1oz
4.35am - 1/2oz in with me
5.50am - up
7am - choc ready break
8.40am - nap pram
9.45pm - woke up
10am - 5oz
12pm - lunch you
1.10pm - 7oz
1.15pm - down for nap
2pm - woke up (45mins)
4pm - chilli was sick yog calpol
6pm - 7oz
10.55am - 4oz drained bonjela

Saturday 24th September 💙
4.40am - 4oz went bk of chad shouted and woke him
5am - got up
7am - wetabix poo
8.15am - lay in cot moaned few mins
8.50am - woke up cuddled him
9.10am - dropped back of
10am - got up
12pm - Lumch
1pm - 7oz drained
1.30pm - lay in cot
2.15pm - woke up
4.35pm - Tea
5.55pm - 8oz no calpol
Eczema flared up today

Sunday 25th September 💙
1.40pm - 4oz drained (almost 8hours) wasn't very cold tonight
2.45am - bonjela water babbling away wouldn't go bk couple sips of milk stil wouldn't go off another 3oz 
4ish - went back to sleep
5.40am - awake
6am - 4oz
7am - wetabix
8.30am - lay in cot
9.45am - woke up
12pm - yog
1pm - 4oz
1.05pm - moaned for 5/10 mins
2.20pm - woke up
4.30pm - spag Bol yog
5.50pm - 7oz

Monday 26th September 💙
12ish - 4oz drained
3am - 4oz drained
5.10am - woke up
5.35 - offered milk

I'm just all confused on his awake time at this age
How many bottles should I offer him should I offer even if he doesn't drink
Because we was missing the 10 o'clock bottle the lunch one came after lunch and befor w his nap so wasn't really an easy routine
Why can some night he go to bed at 6pm and sleep till a decent hour and other nights be awake at 5 ino he's obv had enough sleep but I figured if he can sleep til 6 some mornings. He must be fine with bed at 6

I have two other boys 4&2 you would think I'd have all the answers lol
My first baby was a terrible sleeper baby 2 was a fantastic sleeper all boys
Thanks for the kind words maybe he's having a growth spurt then
Sorry for the essay x

[Donnarobbo88]

He's drunk loads today and had a few naps I think he's having a growth spurt bless him x

[Donnarobbo88]

We've had a few good nights and then tonight he woke at 12.50 it's 1.35 now and he's still awake babbling
Routine is all messed up he keeps falling asleep on school run he's gone from two naps back to three short naps I don't no wether to jus go with it or what
I don't mind him waking in the night once for a bottle but when he wakes and is shouting and making noise it's not fair on my four year old who shares the room as he has school the next day he is a deep sleeper but still I'd like to actually get a good night sleep lol. 

[Skadiver13]

We've had a few good nights and then tonight he woke at 12.50 it's 1.35 now and he's still awake babbling

What do you do when this happens? Remember there is a huge growth leap right now he's going through some serious mental changes. Some of this is purely developmental. If he's not fussing or crying and just babbling does h eventually go back to sleep?

So sorry for the delayed responses. I've been so crazy at work. How are things now?

[Donnarobbo88]

It's fine Hun yeh defo no it's normal sometimes I think in the middle of the night it's just harder to accept lol he went back of by himself after. While
I just leave him to it when he's just babbling I'll go in if he gets to loud x
It's hard when he's sharing a room with my older son this s he gets quit loud lol

I'll see how he is tonight x

[Skadiver13]

Not sure how old your other son is, but you could get him ear buds or headphones to block noise?

[Donnarobbo88]

He's four to be honest he hasn't been woken by Cruz yet it's me being overly cautious but I just don't want him being tired for school I'll see how he goes he must be a deep sleeper
Cruz has alredi woken up he went to bed at 6 he normally sleeps till at least 11/12. But he's woken babbling away his sleep is getting worse he use to just wAke once and straight back to sleep hopefully it will settle back down x
I have a two year old as well x

[Donnarobbo88]

Monday 26th September 💙
12ish - 4oz drained
3am - 4oz drained
5.10am - woke up
5.35 - 3oz
7am - wetabix
8.25am - 8.55 nap pram
10am - almost 7oz
11.15am - 12pm nap pram
12.15pm - finger food yog
2pm - 7oz
2.12pm - lay in cot babbled til 2.20pm - 3.05 nap cot
4.15pm - spay Bol yog
6pm - 7oz
11.50pm - 2.5oz

Tuesday 27th September 💙
2.50am - 6oz drained
5.50pm - got up
6.05am - oz
7am - wetabix
8.30am - 9.20 nap pram
10.30am - 7oz
11.20am - nap pram
12pm - soup was sick yog
2pm - 4oz
2.30pm - 3.08 nap cot
4.30pm - mash beans turkey Dino
6.05pm - 8oz
9.35pm - moaning didn't need to go in

Wednesday 28th September
2.55am - almost 6oz (9hours)
5.45am - got up (almost 3)
6am - didn't drink much
7am - porridge 1oz
8.35am - 9.15 nap pram (40mins)
10am - almost 7oz
11.10am - 11.45 nap pram (35mins)
12pm - cheese / toast / Wotsits / yoghurt
2.05pm - 4oz
2.15pm - lay in cot crying cuddled
3pm  - woke up (35 mins)
4.15pm - 1/2jar yog
6pm - 6oz

Thursday 29th September 💙
12.50am - 3oz (almost 7hours)
Babbling wouldn't go off 2oz
1.35am - went back of after 45min
5.30am - got up
5.50am - drained 6oz
7.10am - wetabix
8.55 - 9.35 nap
10.25pm - 5oz
12pm - toast half pud jar
12.50pm - 2.25pm nap
2.50pm - 1oz
4.15pm - waffles spag hoops yog
6pm - 6oz

Last few days as u can see Routine has gone down the toilet with him falling asleep on school runs c