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8mo NWs, short naps now EMW
« on: April 03, 2018, 19:14:52 pm »
Hi

I last posted 3.5yrs ago when DD1 was 7.5m & we hit EMW.

I’m back with DS2 at nearly 8mo, some EMW just creeping into the 5s wu but had endless NWs to chat & short naps always. I’ve really lost my way!

Routine is
WU 0645 but past 2 weeks 6.40, 6.20, 6.05 now 5.55 this week creeping earlier
E 0800 solids
A 3h
E 1000 b/feed
S 10-10.45 = 45m 1 sleep cycle wakes happy
E 1230 solids
A 3h
E 1345 b/feed
S 1345-1430 usually 1 sleep cycle wakes grumpy or tired soon after waking
E 1600 feed
E 1700 solids
E 1830 feed
A 4hrs+ if nap 45 mins
S 1845 bed
NW around 1230 every night but unpredictable if earlier/later so wake to sleep tricky. Resettle then Eek out 5hrs then NF around 0100 sometimes longer. Currently NF again 2.5 hrs after, prob once again around 05.30 to try to get lo to stay asleep

Lo was unputdownable the 1st 14 weeks with wind. EBF.
Wind resolved mostly. Night sleep improved up to 4 months going 7-8hrs then another 3. Maybe 4m sleep regression then had virus colds & now just wakes. Usually doesn’t cry but is happy to be awake warbling away getting louder unable to self settle. Not hungry so now maybe 2 night feeds is ok or 1 I sometimes do more to keep quiet as lo is now waking DD1 who is light sleeper in early mornings.
Super chunky weight, Loving solids so feeds well eats well. Lazy & barely sits up unaided, rolled once so no physical activity. No teeth, some dribbling. Had a few colds which disrupted the nights.
NWs seem quite habitual as they start from 1130 now 1230 ish but varies.  OH responds up to 1st NW as lo isn’t hungry just needs resettling - picking up, holding, shhhh
Lo can spend hours awake at night. Every night is different. In cot in same room as one of us as we are up so many times, ends up in bed with me by morning to keep quiet feeding but now isn’t hungry just awake.
All environmental factors are ok like temp light, use myhummy as white noise, likes cot, gentle nap & bt routines.
Most day naps are in cot. Goes to sleep right away for naps very drowsy after feed will also self settle.
In the last few weeks lo has just started doing a long 2nd nap sometimes. But also started emw so feels like lo is catching up on the sleep missed in early morning.

I keep lo awake til 10 to try to avoid EMW. Lo is tired by 0930
Then best spell is after 1st nap to go 4hrs awake if need be.
As we rarely get long 2nd nap lo is quickly tired after 2nd nap. For ages we did 4 naps then 3 as awake times increased. Now we are stuck on 2.5 if I only get 2 x 45m. Offer CN but not after 1700 & lo’s refusing it now mostly so I do early bed. Think 11.5-12h nights are needed as day sleep is low & we get many NWs.

Sorry for the long post. Any advice so welcome on:

Are awake times ok for age?
Do I need to cut 1st nap down to try to achieve long 2nd nap? It’s feels risky as 2nd nap can be short then I’ll be back to 3 or OT?
Any ideas with NWs? I can’t always leave lo to be noisy as it wakes DD1.
Sometimes lo has to fit around DD1 / life but will nap in pushchair, car after ages then badly, sling for short naps now only.

It’s a bit messy! Thanks for anything I can try it can surely only help! Then teeth will be next.... x

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Re: 8mo NWs, short naps now EMW
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2018, 15:31:09 pm »
Hi, I posted on Night Wakings board, super helpful replies from becj86 & NattysMom: thank you both!

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Re: 8mo NWs, short naps now EMW
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2018, 07:35:02 am »
Sorry this post got missed - glad you have got your help now though  :)