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Hi girls,

I really really need some help here. And I know you girls are the ones to get it from.

 I have not been on this site for quite a while. I have been focusing my efforts on my children and life has been hectic to say the least. My son had surgery in december, and then I had surgery in January and all along my husband has been in Iraq the gulf area for 3 montsh now.
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During all of the chaos, my son self weened during a rough period in End of December and EArly January. He has  now been off the breast for 6 or 8 weeks now. I have been trying for weeks to get him back to the breast, but he either bites it HARD, which is very painful, or he laughes and pulls away, he thinks it's a toy and he has no clue what to do with it. Can they forget what it is for so easily?

He wants nothing to do with it and he gets mad at me if I force him to try.  I have a little milk left, but it's very low now. I am so upset. My son is only 9 months old and I wanted to breastfeed him for 18 months, not  8 months.

 I should have never given him a bottle, too late now though.  Is there any hope here? I have a breast pump, but can't get much more then 1/2 oz a day.
Please help me
Thank you so much
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Re: Off the breast for 8 weeks now, possible to restart breastfeeding now?
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2006, 15:00:23 pm »
OK, i haven't got any advice but  you've done really well to get to 9 months breastfeeding.
I stopped at 4 weeks with 1st and 3 months with 2nd also because of being in hospital etc and i hated myself for stopping as i wanted to do it for as Long as possible. But then i had Jamie and breastfed him until he was 18 months old, couldn't actually stop him!!
So instead of beating yourself up about it you should be proud that you gave your son 9 months of breastmilk.

sorry i had no advice on helping though..................
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Re: Off the breast for 8 weeks now, possible to restart breastfeeding now?
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2006, 16:11:38 pm »
I havnt had any experience with this but the La Leche League seem to have some great advice:

http://www.lalecheleague.org/FAQ/relactation.html

You have my full support, I really admire your decision to relactate and hope it all goes well  :)

Let us know how you get on and I'm sure some of the other mums will have some brill advice for you  :)
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Re: Off the breast for 8 weeks now, possible to restart breastfeeding now?
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2006, 16:19:50 pm »
http://lalecheleague.org/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=f144d4f5093a867bcd200096bcc71e2b&f=50

Theres some threads on here about relactation, might be worth a read!
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Re: Off the breast for 8 weeks now, possible to restart breastfeeding now?
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2006, 18:27:38 pm »
You've been through a lot! It says a lot about your determination that you have the desire to try again with nursing. It certainly is possible. Here is yet another link - you've got some great ones already.

http://www.kellymom.com/bf/concerns/baby/back-to-breast.html

There are natural remedies and prescription drugs you can also take to help you relactate as the LLL relactation thread describes. Even a very small amount of breastmilk will have some benefits. Good Luck.
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Re: Off the breast for 8 weeks now, possible to restart breastfeeding now?
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2006, 04:51:34 am »
Hi Mia :)

First, sadly it is very possible that he has forgotten what the nipple is for. One week after I stopped nursing Brayton at 12 months old, he needed comforting (he fell?? was teething?? I forget) and I offered my breast to him and he did what it sounds like Riley is doing. I couldn't believe he would forget that quickly, I mean it was only a week after we stopped!

Relactation is a possibility, but it is VERY HARD. I'm not saying that to discourage you, but I had unrealistic expectations when I tried relactating 6 weeks after I stopped nursing Dawson. The online accounts I read sounded so simple -- just put him back at the breast, pump some, and my milk would come back. Seemed easy enough! The problem with that is that my body had changed and the hormones for milk production were gone and were replaced by the hormones for starting my period. Plus, Dawson would not latch on at all. I tried a supplemental feeding tube but he refused. I was ok with just pumping, thinking that if I just got enough milk in with pumping that maybe he would take the breast if he was rewarded with milk, or at least be able to give him EBM. Unfortunately, that didn't work out either because I wasn't able to dedicate the time it takes to do that (pumping for 15 minutes every 2 hours for weeks isn't realistic with two other kids!). I was able to pump out some fluid, but it never brought the milk back in.

I spoke with 2 different LLL leaders, and they were both very supportive even though neither of them had ever known anyone who successfully relactated. I worked with a lactation consultant at the Sentara Women's Center and at her suggestion rented the Medela Symphony because she said anything less just wouldn't be enough suction to get things going again ($60 for attachments plus $75 per month). I spoke with my midwife and explained what I was doing and asked for a prescription for Reglan (ideally I would have gotten Domparidone but it's not available in this country), but that just didn't work for me. I was told by several people that however long it has been since you stopped nursing, it takes about that long again for your milk to come in.

I finally came to the realization that it just wasn't meant to be for me. And I'm ok with it. :)

You knew me back in the days when I was very much a breastfeeding supporter (borderline lactivist) -- think back to when Jordan was born! And I know how much you wanted to nurse Riley for an extended time, but my honest advice is to look at the whole picture. Look at where you are right now -- you have a lot on your plate! I bet Riley is getting pretty mobile, wanting to explore, and I *know* things are more stressful with DH gone. Now look at where you have been -- look at all of the breastfeeding issues you overcame early on with Riley! You have provided him with many months of breastmilk which is very commendable given his illnesses, etc. Now look ahead to the next couple of months -- and decide how much it means to you to get back to breastfeeding. If it is something that you really want to make a priority, then do it! I'd be happy to send you the info on the Women's Center. If you decide not to, don't beat yourself up about it. I know this is the breastfeeding forum and what you are asking for is help, but from me you get advice instead. :)
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Re: Off the breast for 8 weeks now, possible to restart breastfeeding now?
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2006, 02:06:31 am »
Hi Colleen ! ;D

As you know, I do not give up very easily.

I am a fighter. I will push through and do this, no matter what the cost to me. I even got a Nanny. She comes over 3-4 days a week to help me with the kids, mostly just Jordan, so that I can concentrate on getting my milk back and getting breastfeeding going again. I am pumping every 2-3 hours, taking Blessed Thistle, Fenugreek and Mother's milk tea. It appears to be working. I also rented a big hospital grade double breastpump by medela. And I bought new nuk nipples to transition him from bottle to breast easier. I also ordered (although it's not here yet) the Lact-Aid SNS to help with the transition.
I have 2 lactation consultants that I am working with, who (like me) will not take "no" for an answer. They have seen MANY women like me do this successfully, and they encourage me to never give up, and I won't. I think positively everyday, and I pray about it, and I know it will happen, it will just take a lot of work, persistence, and patience and dedication on my part.

I won't give up, I want this for my son, and most of all he deserves it.

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Re: Off the breast for 8 weeks now, possible to restart breastfeeding now?
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2006, 10:20:19 am »
A couple more quick thoughts on this:
I can see that relactation is something that can be achieved more easily but encouraging him to take the breast may be the harder thing:
Have you thought about trying nipple shields as an intermediary step. I read something about an adopting mother who used shields first and then phased them out.
Also do you have friends/groups you visit where he will be able to see breastfeeding happening - especially older babies. Perhaps you can use some positive peer pressure!
The SNS is a great idea.
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Re: Off the breast for 8 weeks now, possible to restart breastfeeding now?
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2006, 13:18:26 pm »
A couple more quick thoughts on this:
I can see that relactation is something that can be achieved more easily but encouraging him to take the breast may be the harder thing:
Have you thought about trying nipple shields as an intermediary step. I read something about an adopting mother who used shields first and then phased them out.
Also do you have friends/groups you visit where he will be able to see breastfeeding happening - especially older babies. Perhaps you can use some positive peer pressure!
The SNS is a great idea.


Yes, I am going to start going to a La Leche League (breastfeeding group of mothers). I have already talked with them. I'm so excited about that.

And YES I have thought about the Nipple Shields. In fact I got the idea from Dr Jack Newman (http://www.drjacknewman.com). I actually meant to order them online yesterday and I forgot.
I used to have some, but I have no idea what I have done with them. I think it's a great idea as well.

And I totally agree with you, having him take the breast will be the hardest part, not so much getting my milk back. It will be very hard.
I have also been encouraged by La Leche league to lay in bed skin to skin (baby in only a diaper) and me undressed from the waste down. And spend as much time skin to skin, even if that means laying in bed most of the day and night together. La Leche league Leaders are even asking me and encouraging me (because of my special circumstances) to bring the baby to bed with me again and start co-sleeping. Which I have not done since he was about 5 or 6 months old. He is now 10 months old. He does great sleeping in his own room in his own crib. But if that is what I must do, then I will do that.
My biggest fear is that he will fall out of the bed. I don't know how to prevent that yet. I am working on that though.

Your ideas are great, and you are right, all of those things are things I must focus on.
Thanks go much girls for all of your encouraging words and for taking the time to give me your opinions on this. I will let you know how it is going.
Wish me luck.
Mia ;D

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Hiya, just wondering how you're going with getting your lo back on the breast??
Hope everythings going well!

good luck,
Jo(mum to jordan too!!ds1)
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Re: Off the breast for 8 weeks now, possible to restart breastfeeding now?
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2006, 14:26:11 pm »
Hiya, just wondering how you're going with getting your lo back on the breast??
Hope everythings going well!

good luck,
Jo(mum to jordan too!!ds1)

Hi mum to jordan too!

It's going farely well actually. I decided to take tinctures instead of the pills, this is a liquid form that seems to be very effective in the blessed thistle and the fenugreek.
With the help of a very sophiisticated pump, the top of the line that just came out from medela and the help of the nipple shields, we are making some progress. Only when he is very sleepy, just waking up or just going to sleep though. The rest of the time he is too busy looking around and trying to crawl away.
I am confident that I can at least breastfeed part time (maybe a night feeding everyday) - I am okay with that, I don't need to exclusively breastfeed, since he is on so many solids now. But 1 or 2 times a day is my goal.
Wish me luck :-)
Thanks for your inquiry.
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Re: Off the breast for 8 weeks now, possible to restart breastfeeding now?
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2006, 15:38:38 pm »
Glad its going ok.
Jamie was down to 2 b/f a day at around 10 months and i thought he'd stop not long after that but he didn't until 18 months!! I think it was more of comforter though!
So more good luck to you, keep going!!!
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Re: Off the breast for 8 weeks now, possible to restart breastfeeding now?
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2006, 10:04:16 am »
Glad its going so well, keep up the good work!
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Re: Off the breast for 8 weeks now, possible to restart breastfeeding now?
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2006, 17:53:31 pm »
I'm so glad it is going well! :) I guess I misunderstood your first post, I thought you were saying you had stopped bf 8 weeks ago and therefore had no milk left.  Relactation (as in basically starting over) would have really been a challange for you, and I was worried about you if it didn't happen.

Since you still have some milk, the hormone for milk production is still present, and if you continue with the things you are doing you should be able to rebuild your milk supply -- especially since you have been able to get him back at the breast a little bit! That is awesome! :) :) :)

I hope things continue to go well for you. I know how much this means to you.
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Re: Off the breast for 8 weeks now, possible to restart breastfeeding now?
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2006, 18:02:50 pm »
I just wanted to say that it's great to meet a mama with such determination! 

Good for you and I hope all goes well.
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