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Offline Fiona (Leah & Kians Mom)

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breast feeding 1 week old
« on: March 04, 2006, 19:30:55 pm »
Hi All,
Hope you can help me help my friend who has a little boy 1 week old tomorrow. She is breastfeeding and having a very hard time of it and is still not very mobile after her c section. The hospital have told her to feed every 3 hours which she is trying to do and wakes her baby to do so. He is feeding for anything up to an hour, sometimes falling asleep on the job. I have read that the first 20 minutes are the foremilk and then the hind milk replaces it and that this is the most important. My questions are
Should she wake her baby to try and get him on a bit of a schedule?
Should she feed from both sides and if so for how long?
She has also given some bottles of formula on which he sleeps better and drinks 60ml/2oz in about 15 minutes, should she keep doing this? She also started pumping today and it took her an hour to get 10ml, When is the best time for her to express?
I didn't breast feed so can't really be of much help to her, he has problems latching on, she has sore nipples though she has gotten cream for it and it seems to be helping some what. She is probably also getting a touch of the babyblues as well of course as being sleep deprived, I remember it so well I would really love to be able to help her a bit. I had a look on the easy board but couldn't find anything for a baby so young. Also can she dream feed at this age? And if she does should she change his nappy if it doesnt need changing? I presume no winding/burping if he is asleep during this feed?
Many many thanks in advance,
Fiona



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Re: breast feeding 1 week old
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2006, 20:22:11 pm »
Hi Fiona,

I sooo recall those early days! I was in the same situation as your friend, c-section, bfing, sore, and sleep deprived! If her lo doesn't have a good latch she needs to go to a bfing clinic (probably one near the hospital she went to) they can help with latch and recommend good positions as she will be in some pain from the c. In the first weeks it is good to feed on demand and wake her lo to feed in the day if he goes 3 hours, it will get her milk supply up. I was not able to pump at all when I tried in the hospital, also milk comes in later w/ c-section. Kick out the formula if she wants to bf otherwise she will impact her supply. When they're this young they can get terrible gas (worse w/ formula), if he doesn't burp well I would recommend gripe water or Oval drops (I found them helpful for dd). I fed dd on both sides as I wanted to get my supply going and was concerned with the time between feeds if single side feeding. I introduced the df later on but had to wake dd through the day as well, when they're this young they can take long to feed (though at an hour, he is taking rests!). Tell her it gets EASIER each day/week and in no time he will be an efficient eater and she will have no pain.
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Re: breast feeding 1 week old
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2006, 20:24:24 pm »
Hi,
Wow, I remember those early bf'ing days so well... it can be so hard!  The first thing I would recommend is seeing if your friend can see a lactation consultant.  I did with my first, and it was the best thing I ever did.  She helped with the latch, which really is very important.  It can be hard to help with this without seeing what's going on.  While baby is still so young, his mother's milk will still be a lot of colostrum, with mature milk replacing that more and more.  I don't think you can say that after a certain length of time the hind milk starts, it depends very much on how the baby is drinking etc.  I know a lot of young babies do take an hour per feed, but if the latch is not good, then probably he is not feeding as efficiently/well as he could.  A good latch will do wonders for the sore nipple problem!  Ideally she should feed for as long as he wants it - trying to keep him awake of course!  Check to see whether he's still actually drinking (swallowing).  Some babies will pull off themselves when they're done.  With dd1 I fed off both sides (once she'd had her fill on the first side I would change her nappy, then offer the second side, then the next feed time start off with the second breast).  With dd2 at that age I was only feeding off one breast at a time.
Yes, I would wake every 3 hours (during the day) if her ds is still sleeping.  I know that this can be really hard to do (sometimes it would take me an hour to wake my dd2!), but it really helps with building up milk supply, as well as helping baby to keep their longer sleeping times for at night.  However he may wake 3hrly (or 2hrly even) round the clock at this stage.  If he's awake earlier than 3hrs, then feed him!  Don't make him wait!
At this stage it would be better not to be supplementing with formula, as her body is still working out the supply required.
What is she expressing for?  Does she want to give bottles of ebm?  With dd1 I expressed to relieve pressure off the 'unused' breast and to keep it stimulated (dd1 could not latch on for a couple of days on one side since I was so engorged).  Warm compresses, massage, etc helped to express more milk.  I expressed straight after the feed, but that was off the 'unused' breast.  
I tried a dream feed at that age with dd2, but it didn't work... She would be so sound asleep, then waking her for the feed meant she wouldn't go back to sleep for hours!  I tried that at a later age.  Probably the nappy will need changing at each feed at this age, since they poop so often.
Hope that helps some, I'm sure others will give more advice!  Tell your friend that it does get easier, especially with some help!  Good on you for supporting her.

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Re: breast feeding 1 week old
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2006, 20:25:35 pm »
Oops, someone else replied while I was typing... and we've said a lot of the same stuff!

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Re: breast feeding 1 week old
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2006, 07:40:47 am »
I'm going to say the same stuff too! It does sound like latching might be a problem. This would account for the long feed and the sore nipples. If the latch gets seen by a professional both of these things could disappear. I'm not sure where your friend is but was there a lactation consultant available at her hospital? Or you could contact the La Leche league.
Also have a look at the videos on latching here:
http://www.thebirthden.com/Newman.html
This isn't a substitute for an LC though.
If she is committed to breastfeeding it really would be better for her to aim to stop using formula. There are proven health benefits if you are able to exclusively breastfeed and very young babies who use bottles can find latching for breastfeeding is affected.
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Re: breast feeding 1 week old
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2006, 07:09:29 am »
This is the time for feeling the blues, etc.  Not to put a damper on it, but...

But, breastfeediing, I do agree that if you have "angry" nipples from the start, go get help.  It won't hiurt, but will help, so why not?  It will increase your friend's chance of breastfeeding longer.  Oh, by the way, I HATE breastfeeding, (I am an open mom about that), but I do it because it's better for baby...